On Thursday, SUN India laid off 48 people ( mix of product management, practice & Sales fuction) with 1 day notice. This is shocking!!! Nobody from Marketing team.. despite the major failure lies in the mentioned department!!
Re: Re: Real Estate
by Sameer Bhagwat on Mar 23, 2009 12:28 AM
True, what I meant was $6 bn is relatively cheap for a company that holds more than $2-3bn in real estate all over the world , including India.
This is cheating. Thousands have contributed to MySQL which is an open source software, for free of cost. Thousands have volunteered right from developing to testing MySQL, and now IBM want to grab it for almost free. This is a slap on the face of the Open Source software and a slap on the face of the people who contributed to MySQL thinking that they are contributing to the society. It is also a slap on the face of people who are using the MySQL thinking that it is an Open Source software. Clearly this is a move by the BIG Corporation to control the software market and destroy the idea of Open Source. We have been enslaved once again in the software frontier.
Re: Final victory for the corporate
by Rambabu Shastri on Mar 20, 2009 09:15 AM
I also expect Open Office technology to be incorporated into the IBM Symphony office suite. IBM Symphony crashes on you on certain occassions, but Open office does not. Similarly, I also expect the Virtualbox virtual machine software to be changed drastically. But, believe me, virtualbox is much more easier and simpler to use than many other products out there like VMWare, Xen and so on. And as you said, MySQL is a different ball game altogether. We may see enhancements done to it, and it being moved from a free to a paid product, or it's improvements fitted in to DB2. Strategically, the products will remain free, but service and support would be charged. And did you know, Solaris is still one of the most stable OSes out there.
Re: Re: Final victory for the corporate
by Srikanth C on Mar 22, 2009 03:20 PM
move from mySQL to postgres if you think this deal will make difference to mySQL dev.
Virtualbox is awesome and I think it will remain opensource and free whatsoever.
May be IBM will adopt open solaris and promote it as their opensource offering. As far as solaris is considered, it may die slowly in 10 years... AIX is as stable/more stable than Solaris.
no comments on OpenOffice ... they don't look to me serious :)
this will reduce the workforce as well. What this means for technology jobs is that there will be less companies and less jobs. To be fair though this is Sun's management fault and not recession. Recession just delivered the final blow but Sun stopped being a najor competitor a few years ago. No vision in management, no real marketing. The marketing VP should be fired. This was a great company and now reduced to negotiate with IBM from a position of weakness. That is not good place to be. Sun has good things but the current management don't know how to make money from it so let IBM have it and at least IBM can market the Sun solutions better.
Its unfortunate of a legendary & innovative company like SUN going bust due to recessionary implications. The following will be reason:
1. Failed effort to enter into x86 business. HP & Dell has substantial market share. Pricing issue. 2. Software business not healthy despite lot of innovative initiaves. 3. RISC market shrinking.SUN loosing market share to IBM & HP ( Intel Itanium). 4. Storage business never independently picked up. Most of the storage deals were also server deals. 5. Focus on services is substantially lower than IBM ( market leader with IBM GS) or HP ( having acquired EDS).
Maybe the only silver lining is Solaris operating system which had been open sourced a few years ago. But Linux competition is always persistant.
It is a welcome note of acquisation in the Server/Storage solutions. There was a speculation that "Hitachi" might take over!!!, any way, the customer would really benefit because he gets options of solutions under one roof that is "IBM". But by just takeing over, IBM-SUN can fend off HP presence easilly nor able to over pass them in the near future.
Why would IBM in the first place buy SUN. Sun is not going that good, its technology is outdated. IBM is beating SUN in all the cases where it faces Sun as competition. Unless it wants to utilise the infra Sun has, i don't see the value for IBM. I don't see anybody talking about this acquisition except in Rediff, which has now become Crap Website.
Re: BS
by Atanu Chatterjee on Mar 19, 2009 12:17 PM
looks like u dont read anything other than rediff...The news is everywhere in print & electronic media
Re: BS
by soumen ghosh on Mar 19, 2009 11:58 AM
@rammalini U r totally clueless about the news. Every leading newspaper has this news. Get correct info & then comment on any respectful sites like rediff.
Re: BS
by shruti kapur on Mar 19, 2009 12:08 PM
admit that rediff is slowly turning into times of india but this speculation is not rediff's. Bloomberg reported it yesterday.
Re: Re: BS
by pravin singh on Mar 19, 2009 06:46 PM
I've seen large number SUN Storage boxes & other boxes in many Dta centres in INDIA as well abroad. Guys it has its place to fight thiugh is a good news of IBM acquiring it.
