Friends.. if some XYZ was doing hunger strike or ABC is doing the same, the intention behind it is nothing but for Hyderabad city. Hyderabad should be equally shared by all regions of the current AP people. It should not solely belongs to any single region. As every single person in the state contributes its development directly or indirectly. Without Hyd, T-people cant accept, without Hyd, rest of AP is nothing too. Hence either make it as common capital of 2 states or make it as UT. Thats how I see.
Re: Realise before we all fight each other...
by hari hari on Dec 26, 2009 10:10 AM
I feel hyderabad should be with telangana state only. And andhra people should develop a new capital like VZA or VIZAG. There are number of benefita with this
1) That area will be developed 2) More employment 3) Capital city will be nearer to the people of north andhra people 4) There won't be any reginal issue in future.
Create the new state of Telengana .And add Andhra and rayalaseema regions to the new Telengana state .Thus the state will remain undivided only under the new name Telengana.It is the least painful and most practical solution in my opinion.
Dear heads Niraj and Srinivasa prasad, Need a simple answer to question why you need telengana state?? One of you people said that people are telengana got suppressed because of Andhra state.. Please explain how.. If saying about backwards please put some numbers to explain. If possible get in some details of percapita income of 3 regions; and I think rayalaseema will beat others. People want answers to questions; why can't intellectual people from all regions participate a healthy debate. Please please need answers from T supporters.
The Telengana struggle as not for money and the pharmacy industry as pointed out in this article.
The author is missed to show that the Telangana struggle is only for their culture and heritage, not for the money.
Money will come and go, people will come and go, but the next generation will be credited with their culture and heritage only, which will be their true “identity wealth” for generations to come.
The author is missed the veracity of wealth of Telangana before unification with respect to Andhra, Telangana was more wealthier than Andhra at the time of unification but now the same is reversed, reasons known to all Telangana and Andhra people. This will change after formation of Telangana as directed by the Central Government.
Meanwhile the article is clearly stating the true intentions of Andhra people. Their struggle for unified Andhra is only for money, and riches of Hyderabad.
The author is not aware the fact that Hyderabad was the cultural, and heritage city for Telangana people and also the richest city with surplus budget and an airport before they joined with Telangana.
Re: All people should support Telangana struggle for seperate sta
by BloodHound on Dec 15, 2009 11:46 AM
telangana is only for money. Once telangana is carved out KCR as its CM will have access to a flurry of funds.
Re: All people should support Telangana struggle for seperate sta
by ashwin rao on Dec 15, 2009 11:57 AM
Thanks to people like YOU our country never stands united. It is not suprising the British came and ruled for over 100 years with such ease. All thanks to people like YOU
Re: Re: All people should support Telangana struggle for seperate
by Niraj Prasad on Dec 15, 2009 12:27 PM
since when did bifurcating states amount to bifurcating a nation ... districts are also bifurcated daily somewhere in India purely for administrative or economic reasons ... how absurd if they start equating it to partition of India.
these people call themselves heads of industry and speak in such a bigoted language. why going to Karnataka or HP is more preferable than living in the capital of Telengana.
"feel more at home" -- who told him that he will be asked to leave if telangana is seperated. it will still be his home. however what he is not openly admitting is that he does not want telangana ppl to get good things ... he is fine as long as hyderabad is not a part of telengana ... mind you there will be fireworks in Andhra if hyderabad is seperated from telengana ... all this talk of united AP will vanish in thin air ... their only concern is that they have bought land in hyderabad and feel insecure that its value will go down.
but this is an irrational fear ... and even if it is true, it was their business decision to buy land ... nobody forced them to buy it, just as nobody is forcing them to sell ... if under the changed circumstances land prices go down (which incidentally have nothing to do with telangana state) they have to bear that risk .. it is a business decision ... you cant expect others to compensate for that or change their lives to accommodate the losses ...
these bigots are industry head ... who wants such industry heads ... go wherever you want to go ... nobody stops you ... telangana will be formed and that is the truth.
Re: Re: these supposedly heads of industry
by Niraj Prasad on Dec 15, 2009 11:15 AM
what makes you think that Telanganites are traitors ... we could equally well say give independence to andhra and let them collaborate with al qaeda ... does is sound any more irrational than what you said ?
Re: Re: Re: these supposedly heads of industry
by anniyan on Dec 15, 2009 01:27 PM
Telangana, not Andhra is muslim majority, so they surely fits for porkies.
Re: these supposedly heads of industry
by V SR on Dec 15, 2009 10:53 AM
Niraj, I think you should understand that development can happen only if there is an industrial growth. Given the Teleganga as region it has very poor agricultural opportunity. If someone has invest in industry, the wealth within the Telangana region is in sufficient for such growth. Only if people from other regions participate in setting up industry, the growth will take place. Just by driving away the people of other region will not lead to employment opportunity for locals. May be take grab the lands, but without industries and employment opportunities, land has no value. With such instability, the global commpanies like Oracle, Microsoft and other Indian companies like Wipro, Infosys, Polaris and all will not expand their capacity in Hyderabad, which will prove detrimental to locals. End of the day, to create opportunity one need to invite investments from outside, even if it is outside India. One should not say, that let everyone get out from this place and only Telangana people live here. Living here and do nothing.. Because no employment opportunity?? Be rational in judgement.
Re: Re: these supposedly heads of industry
by Niraj Prasad on Dec 15, 2009 11:04 AM
you are right but when did telanagites say that outside investment is unwelcome .. no state does that and neither will telengana ...
and never did telangana movement insist that settled people move out ... they are welcome to stay as long as they want ... welcome to set up any industry... telengana ppl only want self rule ... that is the whole movement about ... nobody in telangana said anything against industry.
Re: Re: Re: these supposedly heads of industry
by Sridhar S on Dec 15, 2009 02:59 PM
S. That is the day today picture. Once new state is formed definatly some political party starts asking 80% resevations in jobs, prefernce in investments etc.
Re: Re: Re: these supposedly heads of industry
by Sridhar S on Dec 15, 2009 02:35 PM
S. That is the day today picture. Once new state is formed definatly some political party starts asking 80% resevations in jobs, prefernce in investments etc.
Re: Re: Re: these supposedly heads of industry
by Sridhar S on Dec 15, 2009 02:34 PM
S. That is the day today picture. Once new state is formed definatly some political party starts asking 80% resevations in jobs, prefernce in investments etc.
Re: these supposedly heads of industry
by vamsi kattekola on Dec 16, 2009 08:52 PM
y kcr wants ready made cake , if he cant develop him own town when he was the cabinet minister what can he do now after separating state... its already there in hyd bifurcation of locals and non- locals irrespective of which region you migrate from ... Now it will become like kostha, rayalaseema people and t-people .... divisions starts like this .... down the line i will garauntee you that KCR will com out like madhu koda well know man for 4k crores scam ... in the same in not supporting any politicians ... As people of andhra we have rites to live any where in the state ... y do u want divide state for the reason of development and culture .... hyd is mixture of different cultures and still its welcoming people ... be grown up boss
Re: these supposedly heads of industry
by Almighty on Dec 15, 2009 11:04 AM
I belong to Telangana region but would never want separate state and i'm sure there are many like me in Telangana who would not want to be ruled by sum cheap political party like TRS.
Re: Re: these supposedly heads of industry
by Niraj Prasad on Dec 15, 2009 11:07 AM
cheap politician like TRS will always be there ... do you think that non TRS guys are saints ... TRS is as good or as bad as other parties .. I too am no supporter of TRS ... I support telangana not TRS ...
and you too should think about the larger picture ... KCR may become one time CM (even that is doubtful), but he is nto forever ... ppl will choose better leaders ... have confidence
Re: Re: these supposedly heads of industry
by Niraj Prasad on Dec 15, 2009 11:50 AM
i always suspected this to be true ... i have heard many people vociferously shouting in favor of 'united andhra' ... and dig a little deeper then you will discover that they have bought land in telengana ...
you know i am not really from AP neither am i am native telugu speaker ... but seeing the injustice done to perfectly decent ppl makes me disgusted ... that is why i support telengana movement so much
Re: Re: Re: these supposedly heads of industry
by ashwin rao on Dec 15, 2009 12:10 PM
Yeah so some years down the line I am expecting news headlines "Niraj Prasad tries to self immolate for new state Niraj Bhumi?!?"
Re: Re: Re: Re: these supposedly heads of industry
by Niraj Prasad on Dec 15, 2009 12:23 PM
LOL ... self immolating is foolish ... i would rather live for a cause (even if half achieved) than die and lose it altogether ..
see some sense yaar, talangana is not going to separate from india ... they just want a new state, that is all ... and they are not aksing anybody to out too ...
about hyderabad ... it is the only prize and pride of telangana ... there will be mass bloodbath if it is not granted .. i am not threatening anybody ... but the self immolation that you talked about will become a reality with a raging force ... for andhraites hyderabad is only about a piece of land they bought ... for telanganites it is about their dignity and self appreciation ... surely you consider their self-respect to be more important than your few lakhs of investment, which anyway is not going anywhere ...
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: these supposedly heads of industry
by palaparthy ganesh on Dec 15, 2009 01:20 PM
hi Niraj ... let me tell you onw thing ..the slogan "Andhra bago telangana jago" doesnt give good signals for any one living andhra pradesh ..its not the way of asking separate telangana
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: these supposedly heads of industry
by kailash gvs on Dec 15, 2009 01:53 PM
its quite unfortunate people are still believing him.This drunkard and half beedi smoker KCR switched his loyalties with congress,TDP,BJP,CPI twice or thrice in the last 8 years.people must have selective amnesia to believe him still.
1) Investors (not politicians) create jobs Only 20% jobs are created by Govt. And these jobs are always captured by cronies of Politicians. 80% jobs are created by Investors for you.
Hyderabad generates the maximum revenue and impact for the state.if telangana is formed,there will be another capital for andhra which decreases impact of hyderabad itself.Also bigger state means will have great influence at the centre and can ask for greater resouces.they cant ignore a 42 MP state rite?
Everyone blaming coastal andhra for getting maximum water resources.the reason is not partiality or something..its simple they are more fertile land than any other place.. the food for total andhra comes from coastal andhra..no doubt abt that..Do now telangana will import food from coastal andhra
Anyway the settlers in hyd will never move..what advantage will telangana get by getting new state? having two states will increase everything..taxes ..even a lorry should get national permit !
small states means less no of mla..for eg is its 50 mla state and 5 parties .no party will get majority and this leads to situations like even madhu koda who is independent could become CM..
Telangana has naxal problem so there is every reason to fear that it
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: these supposedly heads of industry
by kailash gvs on Dec 15, 2009 01:55 PM
Telangana has naxal problem so there is every reason to fear that it will turn into jharkhand which is struggling to get rid of naxals..
Telengana was represented by MLAs and MPs from Telengana only. They didnt do anything till now. What's the gurantee that they will work for betterment of independent Telengana?
dont believe politicians pls..two states means 2 CM,2 Dy cm and 2 sets of ministers..thats the only motto...
dont forget its rayalaseema which is way backward who sacrificed kurnool as capital for the sake of telangana and made hyd as capital..after 50 yrs of development its quite unfair to take hyd for telangana..isnt it?
hope u are getting my points..i am not anti telanaga but want to let my view..
• Coastal CMs ruled for 24 years, Rayalaseema CMs for 23 years, Telangana CM for 6 years. In this 6 years 3 CMs were used as temporary CMs while changing other region CMs. This makes BIGGER difference as you can see from Telangana discrimination in last 50 years • Migrated Non-Telangana people compare with few lazy people locally and say Telanganites are lazy. I can show equal number in their area. Usually hardworking people migrate. Even in Movies they make derogatory remarks about Telangana people and culture. They need to respect people. • Some Businesses built by Non-Telangana people in Hyderabad are for making profit, not for developing Telangana. Lots of Telugus live in Bangalore, do business there, and invested much more money in Bangalore than in Hyderabad, is it justified to ask for Bangalore in AP? • Few Non-Telangana politicians for their Real estate business interests, XYZ hills being built on illegal lands and other personal gains, opposing Telangana state. • Naxalism is just a reason for the other area leaders to oppose Telangana. Telangana will have more benefits even with Naxalism if separate state is created, we would have more funds, projects, jobs and respect for Talangana people. If TELANGANA is not created, fight for this will only increase, only solution is creation of state with Hyderabad as its capital.
Re: Industry should support TELANGANA state - 2
by Niraj Prasad on Dec 15, 2009 10:40 AM
you know by just wishing good things it wont come true ... i am now utterly convinced that these ppl will not give Telangana so easily ... they will raise all kinds of bogus issues - naxalite, illiteracy, aridity, Union terrotory, muslim insecurity, industrial environment, etc etc ... there is no end to it ... you cannot keep on replying to all ...
the time has come to take action ... telangana must taken with force if necessary ... no use talking sweet to these bigoted guys ... they dont even realize that the language they are using is the same language britishers used to deny freedom to India.
Re: Re: Industry should support TELANGANA state - 2
by Rahul on Dec 15, 2009 10:57 AM
telangana thugs like you are the ones who are bigoted. who is the one with the slogan, andhra waala bago?
Re: Re: Re: Industry should support TELANGANA state - 2
by Niraj Prasad on Dec 15, 2009 11:10 AM
you do not even undertstand the laws of natural morality ...
two poeple can stay together as long as both are consenting ... even if one wants to walk out, he is fully and morally justified ... nobody has any natural or moral right to stop him ..
and anybody who opposes natural moral laws are bigoted ... there is no rationalization for sombody trying to deny others their moral rightful
Re: Re: Re: Re: Industry should support TELANGANA state - 2
by Rahul on Dec 15, 2009 11:15 AM
Guess this logic can be applied to Kashmir and Assam also?
Anyways, i agree with what you are saying, but taking sole custody of Hyderabad? If Telangana wants divorce from Andhra, surely surely Andhra will ask for joint Custody of hyderabad because of their emotional, financial and sentimental connections.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Industry should support TELANGANA state - 2
by Rahul on Dec 15, 2009 11:36 AM
i agree simplifying hyderabad into alimony, there is financial and emotional attachment.
What about Hyderabad itself, hyderabad doesnt want to take sides.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Industry should support TELANGANA state - 2
by Niraj Prasad on Dec 15, 2009 11:23 AM
you are correct about kashmir ... even i do not want to live with somebody if they do not wish it too ... so natural morality demands that we separate kashmir ... that is fully justified and moral ... about assam i sure that ppl are not willing for separation ... but if they wish, they should also be separated, no strings attached ...
but this is diverting the issue ... and looking at the natural geography is sufficient to convince any impartial person that hyderabad is the natural capital of telangana ...
and if you prefer the language of divorce, consider hyderabad as the alimony that the rich husband has to pay so that the poor wife can support herself.
Re: Re: Re: Industry should support TELANGANA state - 2
by Niraj Prasad on Dec 15, 2009 11:55 AM
andhra waala baago is not any slogan of telangana movement ... no talanganite really supports such things ... these things are uttered by somebody purely in the heat of the moment ... and that too it is done more often by miscreants ...
so andhra and telengana are brothers ... but when brothers grow up, they should be given separate houses otherwise their wives and kids fight with each other ... that is the way for having lasting peace and harmony between brothers.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Industry should support TELANGANA state - 2
by kailash gvs on Dec 15, 2009 01:59 PM
its quite unfortunate people are still believing KCR.This drunkard and half beedi smoker KCR switched his loyalties with congress,TDP,BJP,CPI twice or thrice in the last 8 years.people must have selective amnesia to believe him still.
1) Investors (not politicians) create jobs Only 20% jobs are created by Govt. And these jobs are always captured by cronies of Politicians. 80% jobs are created by Investors for you.
Hyderabad generates the maximum revenue and impact for the state.if telangana is formed,there will be another capital for andhra which decreases impact of hyderabad itself.Also bigger state means will have great influence at the centre and can ask for greater resouces.they cant ignore a 42 MP state rite?
Everyone blaming coastal andhra for getting maximum water resources.the reason is not partiality or something..its simple they are more fertile land than any other place.. the food for total andhra comes from coastal andhra..no doubt abt that..Do now telangana will import food from coastal andhra
Anyway the settlers in hyd will never move..what advantage will telangana get by getting new state? having two states will increase everything..taxes ..even a lorry should get national permit !
small states means less no of mla..for eg is its 50 mla state and 5 parties .no party will get majority and this leads to situations like even madhu koda who is independent could become CM..
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Industry should support TELANGANA state - 2
by kailash gvs on Dec 15, 2009 02:00 PM
Telangana has naxal problem so there is every reason to fear that it will turn into jharkhand which is struggling to get rid of naxals..
Telengana was represented by MLAs and MPs from Telengana only. They didnt do anything till now. What's the gurantee that they will work for betterment of independent Telengana?
dont believe politicians pls..two states means 2 CM,2 Dy cm and 2 sets of ministers..thats the only motto...
dont forget its rayalaseema which is way backward who sacrificed kurnool as capital for the sake of telangana and made hyd as capital..after 50 yrs of development its quite unfair to take hyd for telangana..isnt it?
hope u are getting my points..i am not anti telanaga but want to let my view..
Re: Re: Re: Re: Industry should support TELANGANA state - 2
by ashwin rao on Dec 15, 2009 12:21 PM
What an idealogy...you should be given nobel prize...
Re: Re: Industry should support TELANGANA state - 2
by Rahul on Dec 15, 2009 10:58 AM
you honestly think you can use force and the rest will take it lying down? Your words itself shows who is the bigoted person.
THIS WOULD ENSURE PEACE AND PROSPERITY OF TELANGANA AND HYDERABAD. Look at discrimination of Telangana in all areas. • While merging Andhra with Telangana in 1956, Telangana people consent was not taken. It was Central Govt which took the decision. Now the same govt is creating Telangana. Why oppose now? • Andhra didn’t pay a PAISA also for HYDERABAD while merging Andhra with Telangana in 1956. • Hyderabad is the capital of Telangana for last 400 years. Surrounded on all sides by Telangana. It is built using the resources of Telangana water, land, electricity. Who built Assembly? High Court? Hussain Sagar? Osmania Hospital/Univ. Begumpet Airport? All this before 1956. • Hyderabad belongs to Telangana people who built it over 400 years, if stay here for 40 years along with others and claim it doesn’t belong to Telangana? • Telangana generates 55% revenue/tax for AP and gets in return lessthan 10% spending. • Any state govt office in Hyderabad filled with 90% of non-Telangana employees, inspite of the fact that Hyderabad being in Telangana. These guys don’t make any project proposals for Telangana, don’t support development projects and release funds. • Two major rivers pass through Telangana, no major irrigation project in Telangana. Total irrigated area in entire 10 districts of Telangana in less than what is there in Guntur dist.
Re: Industry should support TELANGANA state
by V SR on Dec 15, 2009 10:58 AM
Sat, Andhra paying to Telengana?? What are you talking? Was Telengana sold to Andhra or Govt of India..?? Everything built before were from ex Nizam rulers and you know what these Nizam has done for Telengana. I think you need check your facts instead of muttering like this.
