1.Most years its a bad crop. 2. They want loans from Govt always. 3. They want those loans to be free & waived off always & never wants to pay back. 4.Then they want all products whatever they produce to be purchased by govt. 5.They want govt to purchase their products at higher price or whatever they like to fix. 6.They will never gurantee the quality of their farm products. Are our farmers really good at farming?
RE:R our farmers really good at Farming?
by raj on Mar 17, 2008 11:27 AM
"4.Then they want all products whatever they produce to be purchased by govt." half the truth, they get better prices at the local mandi where they sell, only wheat or other farmers like paddy or sugarcane are sold to govt, where there's a minimum support price
"5.They want govt to purchase their products at higher price or whatever they like to fix." have yu followed the price that the government fixes ? btw government propagates certain things like use pesticides and fertilisers - because they have taken money from the fertiliser and pesticide lobbies, of late people have realised both have become unnecessary. the money that goes into fertilisers and pesticides is the input cost which they can barely afford - thus they need the minimum price to go up.
"6.They will never guarantee the quality of their farm products." well, this is a national malady - we are slowly moving towards as a more disciplined nation. greed is a primary factor, but we really cant paint everyone with generalization.
"Are our farmers really good at farming?" they are not good, but they are not entirely to blame
RE:R our farmers really good at Farming?
by hardhitter hardhitter on Mar 17, 2008 11:39 AM
Mr.Raj,Thanks for the reply. First time Some one replied rational,logical & sensible to my post on rediff. Your points well taken & respected. Thanks : -)
RE:R our farmers really good at Farming?
by raj on Mar 17, 2008 11:27 AM
truth is different. this is not the way the farmers look at things. look at the post above.
"1.Most years its a bad crop." - poor techniques, horticul dept doing not much in the way of research and spreading knowledge. cant expect small time farmers to do much in that field
"2. They want loans from Govt always." or else they have to take it from money lenders. the farmer have to buy grain from companies like monsanto or rely on their low yeilding grains. abroad they have good R & D, and knowledgeable farmers
"3. They want those loans to be free & waived off always & never wants to pay back." big lie. farmers want governance. not loans. btw, only 15% of farmers have taken loans from govt or banks, its all from the money lenders for the rest 85%
RE:R our farmers really good at Farming?
by Faceless Indian on Mar 17, 2008 11:19 AM
But two things you are definitely good at is whining and fault finding.Loser, get a life.
I completely agree with Mr. Joshi, instead of giving free access to market , the government is giving freebies to gain votes of these people. The ruling party wants the farmers should be always be on their mercy and they would do great favor by distributing tax-payers money. The government has done nothing to improve the situation. The loan-waiver is short term measure and done with elections in mind.
RE:Very well said Mr. Sharad Joshi
by Jobin V on Mar 17, 2008 11:09 AM
but then, what should they be doing?? remove the loan waiver?? I am not a congress supporter. But at least they DID something, now everyone wants to find fault in whatever has been done.
RE:Very well said Mr. Sharad Joshi
by Raam on Mar 17, 2008 11:20 AM
I agree with Jobin. It has become a fashion for these so called leaders to criticise Government for whatever is done. May be they want to be in the limelight always and also in leadership.
RE:Very well said Mr. Sharad Joshi
by anand chavan on Mar 17, 2008 12:23 PM
My friend the present government is more interested in vote bank than anything else because: 1. If they are really concerned abt farmers, deeper study should have gone in this regard - as to how to improve irrigation, water supplies and target small time farmers who take loan from mony lenders and not banks... But instead of this our govt went for loan waiver something like robinhood - rob teh upper class and give the poor - the root cause remains the same. Next we have the same situation and greater waiver is given. 2. Same approach is education - target votebanks - provide reservation in IIMs and IITs - hwave they ever wondered people for whom they are reserving seats are not able to complete priimary education... how the hell are they going to claim seats in IIMs and IITs. Unless you improve education quality in grass root level, prblem will reoccur and then next time you provide 70% reservation...
Isnt this irony that such people are in power adn expect themselves to be reelected????
RE:Very well said Mr. Sharad Joshi
by Raja Krsnan on Mar 17, 2008 11:25 AM
there are two sides. farmers and banks where i & u deposit our savings farmers dont get loans. farmers suffer. loans are granted to certain farmers under political pressure. they default these deliberately. the banks start reporting loss. who loses? It We. because we keep money there trusting they are safe. now who is the beneficiary. the corrupt politicians. what farmers need is not loan waivers. they want access to markets, acces to timely finance, good irrigation system so that they are not dependent solely on rain, and power at reasonable rates when it is required. it is the politicians who destroyed the agricultural sector of india. they require money for elections. they need money for buying votes. hence the loan waivers.
I completely agree with Mr. Joshi, instead of giving free access to market , the government is giving freebies to gain votes of these people. The ruling party wants the farmers should be always be on their mercy and they would do great favor by distributing tax-payers money. The government has done nothing to improve the situation. The loan-waiver is short term measure and done with elections in mind.
I completely agree with Mr. Joshi, instead of giving free access to market , the government is giving freebies to gain votes of these people. The ruling party wants the farmers should be always be on their mercy and they would do great favor by distributing tax-payers money. The government has done nothing to improve the situation. The loan-waiver is short term measure and done with elections in mind.
waiving farm loans neither support farmers nor their problems.this is one of the cheap stunts the governments are making. Farmers are subjected to all kinds of exploitations because governments have never attempted to solve their basic issues like scientific calculation and fixing of support prices (BASED ON COST OF CULTIVATION WHAT UNIVERCITIES ARE TEACHING).Avoiding middle men buying at lower prices and most important is strict measures to controle currupt government officials in co operative banks,rural banks and cooperative societies (like hopcoms). The biggest lot of money allotted in the budget for agriculture out of this not even 1% touching the final end ie farmers. If the govt does take measures to systematic improvement of this sector waivers are not going to help.
RE:measures should be scientific
by Raam on Mar 17, 2008 11:05 AM
You must know that farmers are exploited not by the Government but people like you and me. The Government has no control over middlemen to whom the farmers depend for sale of their products. When Company's like Reliance started giving good price to farmers dirty politicians of UP led by Mayavati strongly opposed their trade. It is not the Central Government but brainless supporters of politicians are preventing farmers from getting good price. Why you blame only Government officials? Non Governmental agencies act worse inthis direction to deprive farmers. Let at least farmers enjoy the waiver why you and me worry?.
RE:measures should be scientific
by Raam on Mar 17, 2008 11:11 AM
You must know that farmers are exploited not by the Government but people like you and me. The Government has no control over middlemen to whom the farmers depend for sale of their products. When Company's like Reliance started giving good price to farmers dirty politicians of UP led by Mayavati strongly opposed their trade. It is not the Central Government but brainless supporters of politicians are preventing farmers from getting good price. Why you blame only Government officials? Non Governmental agencies act worse inthis direction to deprive farmers. Let at least farmers enjoy the waiver why you and me worry?.
RE:measures should be scientific
by Sahadevan KK on Mar 17, 2008 11:23 AM
Left, a good supporter of UPA government is befooled by Congress for last 4 years. Left has given constructive support for Presidential elections even. But Congress forgets they are befooling Indian poor.
UPA is thinkng paying loan is the only problem that farmers have in this country and celebrating in Delhi. This shows the immaturity of Chidhambaram and its collegues about cultivation.
Beign born and brought up in an agriculture family i see the first and foremost problems for famrer community is supporting price and water . Though Schemes are already in place in place , they have tweaked to help middle man and contractors.Farmers barrow money from others , work day and night (god knows when the power comes) to grow their crops and finally they take their yeild to market and 80% chances that they never get supporting price and there are many occasions in every part of India they have to throw them on road/market and come back home.
If any farmer met the above situation twice in row he can never recover from dues and they take on alcholism etc and some farmers commit suicide leaving their family on road. Anothers threat for this community is from POLITICAL FARMERS who team with Govt officials and political leaders and loot all the benifits of the schemes even before they go to poor farmers. These farmers take loans from banks on the name of poor farmers who are really not of it!!!.
RE:RE:HI GUYS
by stav on Mar 17, 2008 12:26 PM
i am also trying to become a farmer, if i start explaining further, it will involve work and hence a detriment to me becoming a good farmer.
Media always misguide the people asking bad questions and hiding the politicians back ground. They donot publish the news that helps people or countrry. They publish the news that is driven by their own popularity.
Weel said: Media is not giving NEWS. they are giving their VIEWS.
