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To, Scott Bayman
by on May 28, 2007 11:33 AM  | Hide replies

He is not telling the truth as he has not been able to root our most of the grey shades ailing GE today, particularly medical systems. Nepotism and Cronyism, is perhaps, highest amongst all corporates in India!!!

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RE:To, Scott Bayman
by on May 22, 2008 06:33 PM
Leave everything Mr. Bayman...Please talk about prevalent high levels of Bribery in GE India itself...I've seen it in my experience and going through it at the moment...

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Radheshyam  Mandora
Ha ha ha
by Radheshyam Mandora on May 23, 2007 03:00 PM  | Hide replies

corruption sucks u more when you are not able to bribe any body. However u r able to bribe some body corruption becomes less painful.

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Hariharan Peruvamba
RE:Ha ha ha
by Hariharan Peruvamba on May 23, 2007 05:18 PM
When you prepare a monthly budget, make provision for this too. This is an overhead you cannot avoid. I wish government makes some addition for this reason,while calculating cost of living index, inflation etc; Empowering LokAyukta etc; are simply day dreams.

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BHASKARAN GANESHAN
RE:Ha ha ha
by BHASKARAN GANESHAN on May 24, 2007 07:32 PM
Obviously Mr.Bayman is now Sriman Bayman, such statements are only for their national interest. It is an extremely calculated move in all probability.....Yes..

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MarkandeswaraRao  Gunnu
Probably he is not knowing what is happenning in India
by MarkandeswaraRao Gunnu on May 23, 2007 06:57 AM

The bribary has increased. See the real estate hype. See the SEZ frauds. Now a days there is no government housing board houses construction etc., All to private people to grab money from public saying India growth story hype.

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Analyst
Bribery in Disguise
by Analyst on May 23, 2007 12:26 AM  | Hide replies


WOW!!! I din't know that Bribery and corruption had decreased in India. I have been living in India since 36 years and have seen in increase in multiples every year, but as per Scott Bayman, the outgoing president and chief executive officer of General Electric-India has said that the endemic culture of bribery, corruption, kickbacks, nepotism and cronyism that he first arrived to had significantly dissipated.

This either means that he has not read the Indian NEWS Paper for a long time. Wake up Mr. Scott. The bribe & corruption has just changed its attire. This disguise will not remain hidden. The employee of GE when he comes to India for offshore client visits will shamelessly ask for a vehicle for his personal use. So you would say this is not bribe. But I would say it is just a bribe in disguise.

Read more at :http://freeanalysis.blogspot.com/2007/05/bribery-corruption-in-india-has.html


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ratnajayant  gudavally
RE:Bribery in Disguise
by ratnajayant gudavally on May 23, 2007 10:44 AM
It means when he came to India he was closer to the Indian scene and when he left he moved far away. It's a parting compliment friend. Don't get mislead. Beware it is hiding even at crematoria too!

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gaurav shrivastav
probably Scott is right
by gaurav shrivastav on May 22, 2007 09:50 PM  | Hide replies

Maybe the perpetual whiners on rediff message boards wont like this, but I think that Scott is right!

His point is not that there is no corruption, there still is a lot of it. BUT the level of corruption has gone down in the last 15 years.
And this is correct because of a few reasons:
1. A lot of items have been privatised. Those which were already privatized have seen competition increase manifold. So now you dont bribe, for e.g., to get a phone line, or seek favors for a bank loan, or a new car/scooter.
2. The media has grown by leaps and bounds. The sting operations, movement against Jessica Lal's murderer, etc have definitely had a positive impact on corruption
3. Politics in the country is changing. These days elections are being fought and won over issues of governance, even in UP and Bihar. Those elected then have to deliver atleast some part of their promises.
4. The right to information act can bring abuot a sea change in the way govt works. People will find it difficult to be corrupt, if they are made answerable to people.
5. India has a vibrant civic society, NGOs and courts, which have tried to expose corruption in a lot of places.

Maybe all of this is not good enough, but it is definitely a good beginning, and probably more than that.

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Abhishek Thakur
RE:probably Scott is right
by Abhishek Thakur on May 23, 2007 11:02 AM
Seconding whatever Gaurav has said. I had precisely the same points!
Things do not change overnight. A public employee has taken bribes during his entire life will not stop doing so overnight. The systme cannot change so dramatically.
But small steps, one at a time, can definitely be taken and that is what has been happening for the past few years. Hopefully this will continue.

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gaurav shrivastav
RE:probably Scott is right
by gaurav shrivastav on May 23, 2007 01:06 PM
thanks Abhishek :)
For some reason, rediff message boards are full of nay sayers and pessimists. I agree that there are negatives in India, quite a few of them. But if we didnt have positives, we wouldnt have grown this fast in last few years. Also, the whole point of growth is that there will be a gradual improvement in living standards. It does not mean that miraculously all problems vanish one fine day.

Sad to see that so many people cant understand this basic fact.

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Antoni D'souza
Corruption is our way of life
by Antoni D'souza on May 22, 2007 08:25 PM

Corruption is our way of life in India.If you don't give bribe your work will not be done.

please visit ANAND BHAVAN in Bangalore for first hand experience, where the doctors and nurses must visit once a year.Their visit is either to cancel their transfer or get their posting to desired area.

Please bring thousands of Rupees,because they have a set rate.Only with money the files move from one table to another.Your file may be lost all together if you don't negotiate early.

Karnataka is the worst state for corruption.I am sure Scoot has excluded Bangalore when he said corruption is down.

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a saravanan
Stop Corruption
by a saravanan on May 22, 2007 07:12 PM  | Hide replies

Stop Corruption. Stop Giving.
We need to change the society. Future generation should not suffer becoz this virus. Lets present a corruption free society to our children.

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Libran
RE:Stop Corruption
by Libran on May 22, 2007 07:23 PM
Easy to say, hard to practice. I have a close relative who put up a factory. As he did not give bribe he got a land for the factory far from the road which meant everyone had to walk 2 km from the nearest bustand, did not electricuty on time - he had to wait 3 additional months - delaying production . Eveen after starting the officials troubled him no end. He struggled for 10 years and then gave up. Society called him a 'failure' - IF you don't want to bribe you should not have got in to the business is the advice given!!

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a saravanan
RE:Stop Corruption
by a saravanan on May 22, 2007 07:29 PM
What is your point?
Why didnt he complain to the senior officials? Why didnt he contact the ACB?



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Truth hurts
Nice saying
by Truth hurts on May 22, 2007 06:12 PM

Can any one ask Scott what are conditions at GE offices at India? How much political and burocrates the managers at GE-India?
Well a good example is GE Industrial IT centre at bangalore, that office was started with high dreams but now have highest number of attrition rate among GE india office.
And managers always shows that people are leaving GE becuase of personal problems..!!!
No accountablity for managers there.


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Bribery
by on May 22, 2007 06:04 PM  | Hide replies

Hi Scottbaiya,Ha ha ha u must be joking,I just fell from my chair.
subhash

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blue wrox
RE:Bribery
by blue wrox on May 22, 2007 08:13 PM
Whats funny.He said corruption has gone down not eliminated you idiot.Haste rahoge ki karoge bhi looser

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