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The would-be Microsoft killer


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Pavan C. Joshi
Tech. User
by Pavan C. Joshi on Mar 12, 2007 06:57 AM

Used both IE and FF. FF is clean and superb. I switched to FF. Then sadly went back to IE.
Some good bad habits are hard to die. Does not mean I care for IE. Go for FF.

Who will kill MS?

For past 4 yrs., MS stock is static. MS now has a 'huckster' and notorius rep. in the tech. mart. 1000's of tech Prof.'s, Grad's and Teacher's have taken a principled stand against MS. The message is catching in a trickle down way. 100's of 1000's of freshly minted tech's are coming into the market pre-loaded with anti MS. then there is the Google's, Yahoo's, Linux, Obuntu, Red Hat (anyone know why Red Hat, Mandrake etc. don't put in a 100,000 man 'call center' helpdesk shop in India, and take over Global market with live, 24/365 always on help. Any desi Co. upto the task?) and other's like FF of this world. Methinks MS is a old gen, sunset Co. now. Even the boss gave-up and retired. Better to walk off into the sunset with some dignity intact before they come tar and feather you, no!

Lard ass big biz and fat, lazy gov.s are MS's cash cows. Everyone knows these are fickle customers.

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Chinmay Gupta
A Matter Of Time
by Chinmay Gupta on Mar 11, 2007 06:05 PM

Upon learning about chronicle of Mozilla as a firm which focusses so intensely on innovation & fosters the spirit of innovation - I can say that it will indeed continue to give a tough competition to MS in the days to come. I particulary like the Open Source History carved out in detail in this article.

~Chinmay
http://thebookreviewz.blogspot.com

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God and religion are distinct.
Not browsers
by God and religion are distinct. on Mar 10, 2007 09:59 AM

Live CDs are the Microsoft killers, if properly marketed.

maaparty@gmail.com

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Bala Kondepudi
FIrefox Vs IE
by Bala Kondepudi on Mar 06, 2007 04:27 PM

http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp
The stats consolidated on above w3schools.com is very interesting. The MS is holding ~60% of the browser share and the rest 40% is held by non-MS; mainly by {Firefox Mozilla foundation} with ~34%. This is an overwhelming success for mozilla even withstanding the MS IE dominance.
I used mozilla since its inception and now using firfox and I am extremely happy with the browser. They are takers for IE7 after its release but I still personally prefer firefox.

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Swapnil Paratey
Very well stolen
by Swapnil Paratey on Mar 06, 2007 03:57 PM  | Hide replies

Very well stolen from http://www.inc.com/magazine/20070201/features-firefox.html.

Well done, rediff.

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ramkrishna de
RE:Very well stolen
by ramkrishna de on Mar 11, 2007 04:42 PM
the INc is already mentyioned

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lovely purohit
RE:Very well stolen
by lovely purohit on Mar 12, 2007 01:32 AM
Its not stolen.. they r been credited. The writer name is also mentioned.

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Saket Srivastava
Too Long..
by Saket Srivastava on Mar 06, 2007 02:04 AM

Whoever wrote it... Did not put thought to cutting the length of the article...

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Prashant
Will it kill MS
by Prashant on Mar 06, 2007 01:23 AM

I dont think Mozilla alone can kill microsoft. The main part in the Computer supply chain is the hardware. And every chip maker and assembler has tied up with microsoft. Other day I was looking for a vanilla laptop and there was none (Dell gives you with red hat but you are on your own). If a company comes with all harware support for linux systems that could kill MS. Personal Computers days are gone, now days have started of task oriented, networked compters and microsoft is lagging in it.

The only thing which could kill microsoft is microsoft itself and their future products. (Vista is just a begining).

I have stopped using XP for past 6 months as ubuntu gives me all that I want plus with very good usability and performance that you can never think of using MS.

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Arun Govindan
Just IE killer at best...
by Arun Govindan on Mar 06, 2007 01:06 AM

If you think it will kill Microsoft, you are just day dreaming. I always use Mozilla but never thought of that as the best. I use it only because number of hackers writing code for Mozilla or rather less.

I like this line from the TV sports commentators: "Never underestimate the heart of champion". Microsoft is the champion.

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Manoj J
Microsoft Killer - How?
by Manoj J on Mar 05, 2007 11:59 PM

Good article , nice idea but how will it kill MS ?
Not really sure.

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Sambit Nayak
Repetition in the article
by Sambit Nayak on Mar 05, 2007 06:33 PM

I liked the article, as it offered a peek into the management model behind one of the most successful projects in open source history.

Keep up the good work. :)

One point though. I noticed that the following paragraphs (quite a large part) of the article were repeated twice.

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And then there's the question of how a not-for-profit foundation like Mozilla can even consider these kinds of commercial deals, given the higher public disclosure requirements for nonprofits, not to mention the restrictions on money-making activities that accompany the favorable tax status.

To get around these barriers, the Mozilla Foundation in August of 2005 spun off most of its Firefox-related operations, including Baker and most of her management team, into a wholly owned for-profit subsidiary, Mozilla Corp. As a private, for-profit firm, Mozilla Corp. can cut deals and keep secrets. But because it's owned by the foundation, any profits go to furthering the foundation's mission of preserving choice and innovation on the Internet.

Plenty of companies, of course, can and do claim to be driven by mission. Google still beats its chest over its "Don't be evil" credo, and Microsoft will talk endlessly about its dedication to the user experience. But executives at these and all other publicly held companies are obligated to use whatever legal means they can to generate the most profit possible; if they don't, shareholders will replace them with managers who will. Mozilla Corp. managers, in theory, don't face these pressures.

That's one reason they can continue to distribute decision making to the community, open-source style. Indeed, Baker seems convinced not only that Firefox devotees deserve to be involved in everything Mozilla does, but that they will do a better job than can a small group of clever managers. "I have a very optimistic view of the social fabric," she says.

This, of course, poses some tricky management questions--issues that go beyond the obvious ones of long time frames and a lack of confidentiality. Baker points out two such problems: "stop energy" and "loners." Stop energy, as she describes it, is a sort of gravity that permeates group decision making, the inertia that sends good ideas crashing down to earth, stifling innovation in the process.

Loners, by contrast, are like unguided missiles--they simply take it on themselves to push ahead, without regard for what others think. Loners may get a lot done, but unchecked, they can take a toll on the community by creating resentment and divisiveness that ultimately slow progress.

To counter these problems, Baker has championed an approach she calls "layers of the onion." New decisions start off in small, relatively specialized groups that spring up informally within the community as needed. These groups can filter out weaker ideas and improve promising ones and gather information that can inform decision making.

Since the groups are self-selecting and likely to contain highly motivated members, they're resistant to stop energy or loner behavior. The best ideas from these smaller groups are then passed on to a somewhat larger group that can further refine them. Only then are the most promising ideas and most important questions put before the entire community.

The result is a hybrid organization, one that relies heavily on open-source models of distributed decision making and transparency but that is also, when necessary, capable of keeping secrets and of making quick and potentially controversial decisions.

Baker acknowledges that the model is far from perfect. "Mozilla is inventing a new sort of entity, one that's different from organizations we know," she says. At one point in 2005, criticism from the community that Mozilla managers were being too secretive led Baker to hold a moratorium on all corporate-only meetings for several months; it only ended when managers needed to discuss a human resources question too personal to share with everyone.

"One of the biggest management challenges is to not let this core of Mozilla employees take over," Baker says. In other words, Baker is struggling to limit the influence of her own management team--not the typical goal of corporate executives.

So far, however, the model seems to be working. One way to gauge its success has been Mozilla's continuing ability to draw more and more marketing volunteers. A contest to come up with promotional videos drew 300 entries, some of which have garnered millions of views on YouTube.

The Firefox logo has been etched into the lawns in college quads, spray-painted on highway overpasses, baked into pancakes, sent up 100,000 feet on a weather balloon, and crayoned onto countless human faces. Seventy thousand websites have put up a "Download Firefox" button.
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