These guys speak all big things about Infy. In reality, it is one of the worst companies in the world. If you are not sure, just talk to some junior level engineer in Infy and find out.
RE:waste company
by Diwakar Ch on Jan 01, 2008 07:09 AM
I agree with you Kittappa. I worked in a senior position. Infosys is the worst to exploit workers.
RE:Had there been no Andhra then there is no Infosys
by rita t on Jan 01, 2008 01:00 PM
Why you all are again fighting for states..we all are Indians and we should be proud to have Infosys..with Indian Brand
RE:Had there been no Andhra then there is no Infosys
by Arul Joythi on Dec 31, 2007 09:36 PM
But Andhra is blessed to have Fake certificate holders/Makers
RE:Had there been no Andhra then there is no Infosys
by VM on Dec 31, 2007 09:47 PM
I think the origional post is nothing but reflection of poor GK about one's own country.
RE:Had there been no Andhra then there is no Infosys
by Ajay Konakalla on Jan 01, 2008 07:59 AM
Dude u seem to be jealous of Telugu people are'nt u!!!!!!!!
Though Infosys attained a place among top 5 software companies, reliability for employees is far below compared to TCS.Mere sophisticated buildings and media hype is not enough. Country means people not soil. One should care more for the employees than their own profits. Oflate Software companies have become more volatile. Any drop in Dollar vs. Rupee parity shake the economy of the company. Though I am an admirer of Mr.Narayana Murthy, unnecessarilly he involved in some controversies.INFOSYS should also go for diversification in core sectors as it will be base for a stable economy of the Company.
RE:I look up to Narayana Murthy for leadership
by FFF on Dec 31, 2007 07:46 PM
Murthy and Premji need not be compared. Premji is bit a 1st generation entrepreneur. Murthy is. Murthy is more admirable on any scale.
I found a expected question by one of the reader asking about the cut off marks being implemented by these software companies,therefore which affects many talented buds losing an oppurtunity so does the company.I think,Mr.Kris gave the right reply telling that,its just a basic elimination round which means,its not like comparing their talents with marks.
One question to my friends here..
Dont you think,Keeping this eligibility loses many talents out of the box.it may be a elimination round for the company,at the same time one is not aware of that individuals dreams/hopes/expectations of his own life,the skills he/she possess and later end up with nothing keeping the talents in hand.. On the other side,we have people academically sound but lack in talents after getting to the company.
When companies are going to understand this scenario?
RE:Cut off Marks - Cost high
by Gopi on Dec 31, 2007 08:03 PM
Exclusion Error and Inclusion Error are part of life. If the candidate is indeed talented (but not scored enough marks) does it NOT reflect something of an attitude to exams? After all, when life is about (in almost every aspect, even golf) relative / comparative grading, shouldn't that TALENTED candidate taken his exams more seriously that his marks can reflect his talent?
Not every body has been an Einstein or Edison. Hence if I am not serious enough to show my talents / skills in a sheet of paper that reflects my performance over 4 years of engineering, blaming the company makes me a loser, doesn't it?
RE:Cut off Marks - Cost high
by dtr on Jan 01, 2008 03:07 AM
To Gopi, Don't you think restricting yourself to only 'performing in exams' is going to affect one's creativity? There has to be a better method to judge one's talent. Blame it on our education system. Most students score high marks, by just sticking to what his/her lecturer/teachers say, and some students follow only old question papers to prepare for exams. They hardly read their books, still they score high marks. There is no creativity/innovation involved.
RE:RE:Cut off Marks - Cost high
by Shivaraj Soushetty on Jan 01, 2008 04:44 AM
Scoring the Marks in exam is not only the attitude, seriousness or showing talent on sheet of paper. It has many other aspects like quality of education, kind of facilities, moral and financial support etc. which are unfortunately not available to the students in most part of India (Villages).
But still they like to struggle and sompete with the world with the help of God given (in born) Talent with little marks on sheet.
So, its responsibility of everyone to help and support those.
RE:Cut off Marks - Cost high
by kshitij tumbde on Jan 01, 2008 02:49 AM
Very good idea. Recruit everyone who sends a resume. Someone will be definitely talented.
RE:Cut off Marks - Cost high
by praveen kumar on Dec 31, 2007 06:59 PM
Hi, You are right. But the problem is that how can companies know whom to give chance? If a company wants one candidate, then so many apply. So, some short listing criteria are needed. I understand that academic performance is not the best way to judge. But what is the alternative?
RE:Cut off Marks - Cost high
by subramanyan raman on Dec 31, 2007 07:20 PM
Basic elimination round - it is absurd.
Presently i am running product development, R&D house in singpore & malaysia. Most of the candidates i found during recruitment process, they are very good in technology but they are lack in communication as well they are not having good academic results (around 55%-70%). [After analyzing this trend for past few years, i found academically good candidates are from metro's OR their parents Or siblings are educated. But talented & technological with less marks are from outside of metros. this related to socio economic factor. Unfortunately, Big companies do not realize this & they are loosing talented personnels.
RE:Cut off Marks - Cost high
by manoj kurian on Jan 01, 2008 10:59 AM
Mr Raman, so do u feel that we stop hireing people from the metros.Do u have Any answer on the Recruiting process.. say like u have about 5000 applications and have to get a guy in 5 days.
RE:Cut off Marks - Cost high
by rajendra birnale on Jan 01, 2008 12:26 PM
I think about 5000 applications and have to get a guy in 5 days is not usualy happens.
RE:Cut off Marks - Cost high
by subramanyan raman on Jan 01, 2008 03:16 PM
Mr manjoj, We consider ourselves good in IT but unfortunately we did not utilize the power of IT to revamp entire hiring process. More over we need to blame hiring consultants, in general they are from non-core industry background.
The point i wish to emphasis is, we need creative technological personnels ir-respective of background. the selection process should be some thing similar to entrance exam with out any elimination round.(No modal paper OR no generic templates. Every entrance test should be unique with set of rules). Then hire & groom top X number of candidates.
By doing this, you are providing common platform for all talented people. ir respective of academic marks. The reason behind is, if you take top academic scorer, he/she always memorize the subject and get high score, it is not going to help in problem solving skills. This also be major reason for top indian it companies are not successful in R&D and product development area.
RE:Leadership Qualities
by Albert Adibadla on Dec 31, 2007 08:28 PM
MURTY'S VENTURE INTO CONSULTING HAS FLOPPED. INFY IS LOSSING MILLIONS EVERY MONTH ON THIS...
MURTHY IS GOOD LEADER IF YOU COMPARE HIM WITH THE LEADERS AVAIABLE IN INDIA AT THIS TIME...
Its true that one has to look as Mr Murthy for leadership in the IT Industry. However it seems myopic that only IT industry was given all the laurels at one time. Today except for this industry, practically all the industries whether it be auto, infrastructure, steel are all doing well. For an investor it is more important that Tatas, Ambanis, Tantias Mittals, Jindals and the host of other industialists should also be given due importance
RE:I look up to Narayana Murthy for leadership: Infy CEO
by praveen kumar on Dec 31, 2007 07:01 PM
Excellent Brian. You have raised a very good point .
KRIS NEVER TALKED ABOUT HUMAN VALUES, ETHICS AND ATTITUDE , INDIA HAS GOT GREAT CULTURE BECAUSE OF IT INDUSTRY IT HAS BEEN SHAKEN , MORAL AND ETHICS DOESNT PREVAIL IN IT INDUSTRY , SO BUILDING WEALTH IN TERMS OF MONEY DOESNT GIVE INDIA GREATNESS, VALUES ETHICSAND CULTURE TRADITION AND GOOD BEHAVIOUR, IT PROFESSIONALS ARE ALL ZERO ON THOSE ASPECTS , YOU ARE TAKING INDIA TO WESTERN CULTURE , I MEAN TO AMERICAN AND EUROPEAN CULTURE , IT IS DANGEROUS
RE:VALUE
by ramkrishna on Dec 31, 2007 05:57 PM
what i am saying is we have to follow and live like rama and Dharmaputra in that tradition we have to bring our children
RE:VALUE
by harish shankar on Dec 31, 2007 07:34 PM
just follow the Moolah... "MONEY" u will succeed. That is what even Narayan murthy did. He tricked patni from there clients to start of Infosys. Things followed one after the other...same goes with reliance.. its the same story with any successful story ... just don't give a shi** once your are successful everything will be forgiven and erased from memory .
RE:RE:VALUE
by Sanjay Gupta on Jan 01, 2008 03:37 AM
I think it's high time we acknowledge that our culture is not the best. The same culture that prides itself in being so righteous that it allows female infanticide even in most educated families. That will never happen in U.S. Please don't start making excuses for that again. Look at the top philanthropist. They are all from the west (Warren Buffet, Bill Gates, Carlos Hemu) Lakshmi Mittal is a big tightwad marwari. Hasn't donated a single billion. Western culture is more generous.
