Re: observation
by Am Pa on Nov 06, 2014 06:16 PM
You are such an arrogant hater! Yes, the writer could have discussed a 1000 other mistakes - but that hardly makes these mistakes any less important. I am certain you are one of those typical southies who can hardly pronounce a single English word correcly.
It is not only grammatical mistakes we make, we make mistake in pronunciation too. Listening to our news readers on nation television, one would get the impression that their tail is on fire. It is good to listen carefully and correct our mistakes.
Re: It is good to understand our mistakes.
by Vijayan Malliyoor on Oct 12, 2014 08:11 AM
Impact of vernacular on pronunciation is not endemic to Indian English alone but it is a universal phenomena! During my recent trip to Bali Island, I had much difficulty to grasp the meaning LABHA from my guide which was actually LAVA of a volcano! Back home "V" is conspicuous by its absence and is replaced by "B" and 'correct' is pronounced as 'currect' in certain regions! However Americans will not admit that Queen's English is the correct one! So let us leave it like that, OK?
Re: Re: It is good to understand our mistakes.
by Am Pa on Nov 06, 2014 05:07 PM
@Vijayan, Calling lava as "labha" is the inability to produce a certain sound - but at least they write it correctly (so it is not as bad as how south Indians write "th" instead of "t" in names, e.g. "Karthik" instead of the correct "Kartik".) Pronunciation is about accents and where you stress while speaking your words and sentences. So technically speaking, pronouncing lava as "labha" owing to the speaker's inability to make the "v" sound is not really bad pronunciation. Pronunciation is not about whether you can call 2 "thyoo" instead of "too" - your argument of Queen's accent and Indian accent would be valid for such minor differences. Pronunciation is really about how you pronounce the vowels and where you place accent while pronouncing words - some examples that Indians typically make a mess of are: photographer, biology, molecular, economics, etc. Whenever you look up a word in a dictionary, there is a clear indication of how the word should be pronounced - but as usual, majority of the Indians sloppily overlook half of the stuff and then provide lame arguments for it.
Re: Some more common mistakes
by Vijayan Malliyoor on Oct 12, 2014 08:16 AM
Much worser??? Don't you know the three tenses are; bad, worse and worst? Only Shakespeare once used two superlative degrees for the impact: "the most unkindest cut" and no one else!!
Re: Re: Some more common mistakes
by Abhishek Hariharan on Oct 13, 2014 02:12 PM
That is exactly why i posted these 2 points as common mistakes people make.
Re: Re: Common Errors in English
by Am Pa on Nov 06, 2014 06:09 PM
"Rahul, Ramesh and myself" is technically correct, but it does not make sense to use a long word such as "myself" when a simple "I" can do! It is called KISS
india will surpass china in population by 2020 and will also be the dominant economy by then. so hindi will; definitly become international language in future. everything ends so as british empire ended english as an international language will also end. english is not a dominant language in europe and countries like france,italy,germany,denmark, austria etc hardly speaks english. but slave mentality of some indians still pull our national language back. soon there will be articles about speaking hindi properly as hindi is the future. proud to be indian and love and respect hindi
Re: hindi rocks
by kevin jones on Oct 10, 2014 01:18 PM
who is depriving any language here? i don't think people need to comment on languages, its just a matter of choice and who are you to "end" english in india. dear, don't live in dreams.
Re: Re: hindi rocks
by shashank singh on Oct 10, 2014 02:53 PM
no one is ending english.but hindi will be more dominant in future and if u hv read my comment carefully, i hv given reasons for that too. so u dont live in dreams and accept the reality that hindi is growing fast and will soon overtake english.
Re: hindi rocks
by Karthi T on Oct 10, 2014 03:58 PM
Mr.Shashank Singh, you are forgetting one thing, Dravidian languages like Tamil, Telugu & Kannada have a much classic background and also just like you, non hindi speakers also have the same pride about their language. India is not only for Hindi speakers and if you dare impose your language on others, then the map of India will shrink to the Hindi belt only, with the prospersous south "missing"
Re: Re: hindi rocks
by shashank singh on Oct 11, 2014 11:07 PM
hindi is our national language and every indian should learn hindi along with their native language. learning hindi is not a disrespect to any other native language in any way but aprt of indianness. our father of nation was a gujrati but still use to respect hindi and was fluent in it.
Re: Re: Re: hindi rocks
by shashank singh on Oct 11, 2014 11:22 PM
also dont you dare make any divisive statements about india people like you weakens the nation by dividing it on basis of language caste or religion. north cant exist without south and vice versa. respect ur nation and be proud to be indian.
English is a foreign language in Asia and some of the communist countries.However,the world over English is recognised as a language for communication in trade and Export and Import.
The English language has been murdered by the media and web sites incl social media by using unrecognised abbreviations.e.g. you as U,for as 4,and as N etc.Americanisation of English language has spoiled the use of correct English with grammar. Even some of the educated elite class of exec and youngsters can"t speak good English. In India across all States we have English medium schools and parents prefer sending their children to such schools forgetting their respect for mother tongue.Result? Children neither can read/write or speak their MT and English is also very bad in writing/speaking. English will remain as a dominant language across the world as long as universe exists.
