As always, media tries to add masa1a to sell the news. The question is NOT whether "all" crimes against women could be related to the dress worn by women. The question is how can we reduce the crimes against women. There are n number of reasons for these crimes, bad guys being one of them. No amount of strictness of laws and enforcement by Police can completely remove these crimes. Hence you can see these crimes even in countries with strictest laws, such as Saudi Arabia. However, the fact of the matter is that when you draw less attention towards yourself, you are "relatively" less exposed to crimes. Remember that we do not live in an ideal world where all men walk on the roads without looking at women. Even that 1 percent of bad guys makes a huge number. Hence, the so-called confident and modern women cannot say that they can wear anything and the men should not look at them. For that matter, even a man cannot go on solitary road with golden chains and watch, and say that the thieves should control themselves. To those who say that dress of woman doesn't matter, please answer this. Why do marketing folks (men and women) use skimpily dressed women to market their products, ranging from deodrants to bikes to cars? I could have written the answer here, but I want others to think.
Dressing glamourous is similar to wearing a diamond necklace - it's so safe in a 5 star hotel , so safe in nice colonies - but so unsafe in by lanes and very crowded places. The evil is not in a woman - it is in the eyes of the criminal. Criminals will "hopefully" be punished - but quesions remain about how to AVOID a risk. In the eyes of criminals a woman is as much commodity as a diamond necklace.
And effort to avoid damage & pain is prudent in both cases. However our real culture as seen from temple art acoss India and Ajanta paintings has got diluted by 1000 years of moghul rapaciousness & victorian prudes and that is a reality we need to really work hard to win back our natural lifestyle.
Re: On provocative dresses and criminal minds..
by Gajanan on Jan 07, 2012 11:47 PM
I don't agree that wearing the so called provocative dresses is safe in 5 stars and posh colonies. But yes, your point regarding the dilution of our rich culture by long foreign rules is cent percent accepted. We have even lost the respect that was given to women in our rich culture. Remember casteism was never part of the original culture so it's pointless to talk about "shoshan"
Re: Re: On provocative dresses and criminal minds..
by Ajit Kamble on Jan 08, 2012 11:34 PM
You say ... Respect given to women in our rich culture? :-) Yes Sir, burning women along with their dead husbands, leaving the widows to beg until they die and condemning them to a place outside of towns and villages is indeed respecting them :-) How long are you going to deceive yourself by saying all these lies?
Dressing glamourous is similar to wearing a diamond necklace - it's so safe in a 5 star hotel , so safe in nice colonies - but so unsafe in by lanes and very crowded places. The evil is not in a woman - it is in the eyes of the criminal. Criminals will "hopefully" be punished - but quesions remain about how to AVOID a risk. In the eyes of criminals a woman is as much commodity as a diamond necklace.
And effort to avoid damage & pain is prudent in both cases. However our real culture as seen from temple art acoss India and Ajanta paintings has got diluted by 1000 years of moghul rapaciousness & victorian prudes and that is a reality we need to really work hard to win back our natural lifestyle.
I would like to arrange a hunk walk, wear thongs and nothing else and walk on the road. I am sure women will respect my freedom to wear anything. Those interested please make send a friend request, I am interested in organizing it in organizing in front of all the women colleges of India. We can start from Sri Ram Lady College.
In India weather is suitable for thongs, it will also save about 12-15K Rs per year that we spend of clothes.
Rapes are a function of clothes the victim wears...this is a great generalization by incompetent people who are in authority and our law makers...it is ultimately the victim who is accused of allowing herself to be raped...rape is an act of violence just like a murder...it is like saying the victim of an act of murder got himself killed because of so and so reason...they are just trying to justify law-breakers acts by providing a motive to rape..shame on them and on us for being a society that is still parochial and narrow minded
Re: Tragic state of the country
by Abhishek Kulkarni on Jan 07, 2012 09:19 AM
I partially agree with you, not fully. Rape is ALSO a function of what we wear. As responsible citizens of society and considering our conservative society (where things are not done openly albeit behind closed doors), we have to be also held partially responsible if you are wearing 'provocative' clothes. And lets not fool each other saying that the word 'provocative' is a subjective word and all that. You very well know what we are talking about.
Tomorrow if men and women start wearing anything they want on the streets saying no one should bother, it is not possible. May be they could do it in a different society say Europe or Aus-NZ, US etc. There no one is bothered of what you wearing - whether you are even wearing anything is immaterial. Not here - Asian countries have a different culture. Accept it and adapt to it.
There is no need to get personal. Request you to discuss - not throw stones.So partially you are right, not fully. So no need to shame anyone.
Re: Re: Tragic state of the country
by Abhishek Kulkarni on Jan 07, 2012 09:24 AM
And men also have to be responsible. RAPE can never be justified ON ANY GROUNDS. They have to control their aggression, women have to be more responsible. That is the best way to look at it.
Re: Re: Re: Tragic state of the country
by Rahul Prasad on Jan 07, 2012 08:42 PM
You,Sir, are an idiot and a fool. Rape is NOT a function of what we wear. It never was. Look at the all the rape cases reported. 8 out of 10 cases, the male took advantage of the female - either picking her off the road or was a family member taking advantage of somebody who couldnt defend herself. Rape is ALWAYS the fault of the Male and yes, our society is to blame for it. I have a right to wear whatever I want, that does not mean YOU have the right to invade me or my privacy.
