The only thing which is fading around the corporate world is the essence of management.. See when they communicate with clients..likely have on game face and projects a high degree of professionalism. do they do the same with internal colleagues? i think no. Top managers are so preoccupied with their e-mail messages that they never look up from their screens to see what's happening in the nondigital world.
yyes i agree v all r ready to fly to realize our incredible potential as human beings. But instead of doing that.. we sit on our divisions clinging to the things that are familiar to us. but bhai what i personally feel if you work effectively and efficiently..u can surpass the person who has been hindering your growth. See employees could do wonders in their field ..possibilities are endless.. but for most of us they remain undiscovered.
Best time to quit a job is when you got an better opportunities either in terms of money or job profile or of anything which satisfy you more than your current job....
Re: Best time to quit a job
by imran on Feb 28, 2011 05:21 PM
friend what i personally feel is.. if you work effectively and efficiently he reach ur expectation from ur job
I believe that you are from the IT / ITES / BPO sector and those commented below are also from the same sector.
My observations:
1. IT sector seems to be like a poultry farm.........people are reduced to mere head count.
2. You can change jobs, you can change profile of function and yet you will be in a 'poultry farm'.
3. You are all paid more than you 'need' to live in India. From a 'settled' or 'achieved' scale you probably will be near 'retiring phase' of people who are working in brick and motor companies.
4. You have in that sense 'short lived' careers and you need to 'learn' new skils or technology to take the next 'wave'. You have been pampered so much in your work space that you think the organization you work for should provide you learning and upskilling opportunities.
5. You are more concerned about 'how much more you will earn' rather than what you will contribute.
6. Most of you are boring personalities with no 'self balance'
7. Most of you think you are indispensable.
8. You work in a 'labor' like environment how else can you explain 4000 - 6000 strong work force. You want to think that you are working in small organizations and so is at the apex of decision making.
9. You got too many things good for you in a very short time and with not much real hard work or learning.
I am very thank ful for the article giving 10 different rules. Due to family burden, poverty etc. I have been working for the company for the last 38 years and 2011 end I am going to retire. Strangely I could not save any money, because being the eldest, I struggled day and night for my younger sisters and brothers education. Now they are well settled, but in my life I am not settled. I am worrying after this year end how I am going to manage further years.
My sincere advice to the younger generation is work hard but at the same time save for yourself and your family.
Re: ten rules to quit
by Aanand Gudnieya on Feb 28, 2011 07:22 PM
I agree with you mueli. I am aslo eldest and have three yoounger brother and has to support them. Now I am 40 year . I will take your advice and save some money for my family and myself.
Re: ??
by kanika on Feb 26, 2011 04:48 PM
Hi Vinita, even i have lot of question not anwaswered yet ... anywas howz everything, do u agree witht his article?
There are only two reasons to quit: 1. Either your company has grown beyond your skills OR 2. Your company has stagnated beyond your patience.
The fact also remains that people dont change companies but they change their boss. There is no dearth of undeserving morons who have gained high seats by staying in the company for very long (or since inception) but then they have proven their skills at some point of time.
As soon as you see in one of following sittuations
1. You are in TCS and not a manager or in HR 2. You are in Wipro and not a manager or in HR 3. You are in Infosys and not manager I think this list could be extended further.However, these 3 are perfect cases to look for a change of job
Re: Re: Time to Quit
by Manjunath Mani on Sep 16, 2011 09:45 PM
1. You are in TCS and not a manager or in HR 2. You are in Wipro and not a manager or in HR 3. You are in Infosys and not manager 4. You are in Bosch and not manager
I think this list could be extended further.However, these 3 are perfect cases to look for a change of job
The following qualities describes him/her, for more than 90% of the cases. Of course the genuine deserving project managers may please excuse me for being rude.
1. He/She, who doesn't not even have iota of an idea on what their team member's technology is or what they actually do. 2. He/she, who keeps constantly claiming "When I was a developer, i did this, i did that etc etc' - the fact is , he did nothing extra ordinary. 3. He/She, who has 10 years of exp, of which relavant exp to the project he/she manages is NIL. 4. He/She, who gets at least 15 lpa as CTC, whereas the slogging team members get less than 10 lpa. 5. He/She, who is never concenred about his/her team members growth, but only worried about his/her job security. 6. He/She, who speaks managable english. 7. He/She, who maintains an excel sheet with the following : Task Name, Resource Assigned, Deadline, Current_Status and keeps bugging his/her team members all the time to complete the assinged tasks, without understanding the actual problems. 8. He/She, who doesn't allow anyone to take off for more than 3 days and doens't like people leaving before time, inspite of no work.
Re: Who is an IT project manager in INDIA:
by santosh pandey on Feb 26, 2011 08:56 PM
well said. I have seen this in most Project Manager of IT companies in india.Who do not have skill to be Project manager but still getting promotion because they do personal work for there boss.
Re: Re: Who is an IT project manager in INDIA:
by R Balasubramanian on Feb 25, 2011 08:20 PM
like politicians in our government?
I very well remember a man in one of my ex-organisation who was working in Accounts Department and looking after Personal Income Tax matters of the Head of the institution. Most of the time, I have seen him only ironing the papers, taking papers from one file and putting it in another file, etc. He was paid around Rs.6000.00 during 89 with free food and house to stay. Whereas a Cashier was paid only 3500.
Re: Who is an IT project manager in INDIA:
by Mahadevan Subramanian on Feb 25, 2011 09:15 PM
Hi, Just remember that that IT project manager was a developer earlier. And do revisit this list you prepared after you become a project manager and work in that role for a couple of years.
P.S. I am not a manager and not even in IT industry. In fact what I said will apply in any industry. One never knows what the issues are till one experiences it.
Re: Re: Re: Who is an IT project manager in INDIA:
by Ravi Shanker on Feb 26, 2011 04:09 PM
Preaching is generally the course which Losers and runaways like you take... so stop preaching and prove yourself as different than your current boss
Re: Re: Re: Re: Who is an IT project manager in INDIA:
by abc_xyz abc_xyz on Feb 27, 2011 01:15 PM
Are you by any chance, one among those project managers who possess all those great qualities that I had mentioned earlier ?
I guess so, from your frustrations ....and regarding me, I am already cost center to my company and you are probably a big liability in yours....Good Luck dude.
