Employees also don't believe bosses would them grant them leave if they politely ask for one. Instead they don't report to work and then give the 'sick' excuse.
to provide Leave is a responsibilities of bosses ,if leave balance are there in the end of the year , that means a failure of bosses because they can not manage the work without us .we are least concern with the cause of the leave . leave means leave . i am expacting too many leaves as the occasion of first night with my new cooler , there family was real happy when they return back from his job without any cause to have fun etc . they realy happy when i got leave without cause . if we do not have cause of leave it does not means i will not be take leave . this is their own priority how / why we are going to take leave
Re: being a boss
by Burkha Dutt on Oct 22, 2010 02:30 PM
I live in UK and if we dont take our 5 weeks leave, its a -ve remark on the manager. You will be either paid for that leave or carried forward for next year. In India the managers are crooks, they damn care about leaves of employees.
Re: Re: being a boss
by gaurav gupta on Nov 21, 2010 03:08 AM
please stay quietly in UK for as long as you can... dont bark so much on subjects you dont have any understanding or depth... Do you even know in India we have so many holidays and festival seasons that its not easy to manage services especially in the global context. Which is so unlike working from West, where people paln their leaves much in advance and try to limit adhoc leaves to the minimal...
Re: being a boss
by gaurav gupta on Nov 21, 2010 03:13 AM
I can clearly understand the frustrations of your boss. You fail to write even a single paragraph properly and still have a job. Thank the economic growth India else jerks like you would be nothing more than tea-vendors.
you wrote:- "expecting too many leaves on the occasion of first night with my cooler" I must say your boss is really cruel for not granting leaves for such a critical need :( please resign... it would help both you and your boss.
Re: Indian bosses are poor managers mostly
by gaurav gupta on Nov 21, 2010 03:15 AM
then are you waiting to be senior or started to play politics? Or may be planning to crib like this all your life and blame your bosses for your failure,huh?
Read about Robert Hare's groundbreaking research in corporate psychopathy/sociopathy.
The analysis, the tests and his books, like the famous "Snakes In Suits" explains exactly why bad bosses are so bad.
Most of our Indian bosses or managers would fail the B-Scan test which is a psychology test, just like the various psychology tests they administer to job applicants.
Hare has been calling to implement B-Scan as mandatory in jobs offered to MBAs and managerial positions.
Some of our IITs or IIMs must set a trend by administering the test to some candidates nad alumni if possible to see what the sociopathy readings for the "most successful" people are.
We need to improve as a society and some time in the next century or two, the world will have B-Scan as a standard for the then counterpart of king, landlord, boss or manager.
Why not try it out today?
An experiment of this type, undertaken openly by IITs and/or IIMs, will make big news and might hopefully turn India's vast crab population into cooperating humans.
One must always dream positively, after all :-)
Do visit hare d o t org and spend some time thinking about what he has to say.
There is also a Fastcompany article about corporate psychopaths.
Re: important to read about Robert Hare and B-scan
by lover boy on Oct 21, 2010 10:58 PM | Hide message
@ Devdutt And your response is relevant to the article because?
Re: Who cares?
by wizardo id on Oct 20, 2010 11:15 PM
absolutely. the companies have their agenda, as long as the employee strikes a balance its fine. there's too much being written about workplace discipline. the fat margins are always pocketed by the highers ups, and never the employees. the only time the employees really have to bother is when there's a recession. the smart employee will always do whats best in his interests - its all about balancing the impression. doing good work whenever he's at the workplace is the most important part.
Re: Who cares?
by gaurav gupta on Nov 21, 2010 02:59 AM
remember... you too would be a supervisor some or the other day... then you would feel the pain caused by jerks like you who have no professional ethics... I really do not know how your Manager is, but it gives no excuse to people to dis-respect their jobs... you must be truthful to your profession and do the best you can... You can easily get away with fake sick leaves (any self-esteemed manager would not even cross-question) but it's not difficult to know the truth and it would reflect in the long term professional growth of individuals like you... Managers do not drop from sky... they were you some years ago... its like kyunki saas bhi kabhi baut thi
Re: Re: Re: And
by gaurav gupta on Nov 21, 2010 03:04 AM
In the Indian setup,there will be Indian employees and then Indian Managers... If the same Indian Managers have to manage foreign employees they wouldnt behave the same way, as it also depends on the professional ethics of the people reporting to them... Good-for-nothing employees like you expect to work the least and paid the most ;)
