Re: Caste identity stronger than Indian identity
by bak bak on May 30, 2010 07:42 PM
keep this theory with urself...till date there is no mention of eslam or christhianity in any religious book!!!!
Re: Re: Caste identity stronger than Indian identity
by Hedonist on May 30, 2010 07:48 PM
There is nothing called hinduism also It is vedic dharma actually
Re: Re: Re: Caste identity stronger than Indian identity
by bak bak on May 30, 2010 07:50 PM
then keep quiet....none of the current day countries live by their old names!!!! not even UK or US or any damn country in the world....so, keep ur india-specific rhetoric to urself!!!!
Re: Caste identity stronger than Indian identity
by JustToHammer on May 30, 2010 07:50 PM
Caste identity is indian identity and vice versa. Both are inseperable.
Re: Castism is dividing Hindus
by Hedonist on May 30, 2010 07:38 PM
Caste identity stronger than Indian identity There was nothing called india before 1947
OTRHER THAN POLITICIANS, NO COMMON MAN IS INTERESTED IN CASTE & CREED . WE MUST REMOVE CASTE BARRIERS ON PRIORITY IN INDIA. WE ARE ALL INDIANS FIRST. THERE SHOULD NOT BE ANY BACKWARD OR FORWARD CLASS. THERE SHOULD NOT BE ANY RESERVATIONS FOR JOBS, EDUCATIONS etc. IT SHOULD BE PURELY ON MERRIT. IF ECONOMICALLY BACKWARD, THEN THE GOVT. CAN OFFER THEM FINANCIAL SUPPORT. BUT, ALL SELECTIONS MUST BE ON MERRIT NOT ON CAST & CREED. PLEASE STOP THIS NONSENSE IMMDTLY. WE ARE INDIANS FIRST.
Re: CAMPAIGN AGAINST CASTE- My CASTE IS INDIAN.
by bak bak on May 30, 2010 07:32 PM
first crucify the britishers, then ambedkar and finally vp singh!!!!
Re: Re: CAMPAIGN AGAINST CASTE- My CASTE IS INDIAN.
by bak bak on May 30, 2010 07:34 PM
ambedkar is still the no.1 criminal in this....once he introduced the caste reservation vyrus, he conveniently connverted to budhism without even an antidote!!!!!!!
Re: Re: Re: CAMPAIGN AGAINST CASTE- My CASTE IS INDIAN.
by Avinash Dsouza on May 30, 2010 07:37 PM
I guess you wouldn't talk the same way if you had to live the life his parents and he lived. nevertheless, I do not support caste based policies!
Re: Re: Re: Re: CAMPAIGN AGAINST CASTE- My CASTE IS INDIAN.
by bak bak on May 30, 2010 07:41 PM
when he didnt believe in it, he should have quit to budhism first itself without introducing the casste vyrus!!!! taht would have savved him from casste discrimination.....when he left the religion all together, what right does he have in introducing it only for hindus!!!!!! is that not the handywork of a s1ck bastrd????? under muslim rule and british rule, do u think others were leading a luxurious life apart from sc/sts and dalits!!!!
Re: Re: Re: Re: CAMPAIGN AGAINST CASTE- My CASTE IS INDIAN.
by Victor Johri on May 30, 2010 07:38 PM
There should not be caste based politics. But the oppressed castes must be lifted up.
Re: Re: Re: CAMPAIGN AGAINST CASTE- My CASTE IS INDIAN.
by Chandran Ganapathy on May 30, 2010 07:49 PM
Please don't talk ill of Dr.Ambedkar. Please recognize the how a section of society was treated badly by rest of the Hindus. Dr Ambedkar was a necessity to correct his. Also please recognize that he converted to Buddhism - a religion of this country - and not to any alien religion. I write this as an Indian born into what we know as 'forward' but I fully emphathize with the sections of society which geniunely need affirmative action. However such action must be truly affirmative and time bound with results measured.
Re: comment
by JustToHammer on May 30, 2010 07:44 PM
We hate religion with nonsense and non-existent Gods. Religions and Gods are used for vote politics .
Re: Re: comment
by JustToHammer on May 30, 2010 07:45 PM
Acquire status and qualification for getting married. If not, you will be a burden to your religion or caste for marrying. If you do not have skills and status, i don't think your religion nor caste will give a bride or groom based on your gender.
Re: Re: Re: comment
by Victor Johri on May 30, 2010 08:07 PM
So, you agree that there is huge disperity among different castes. This will remain if not corrected by the state.
Only the higher castes (non-reserve catagory) are opposing census on castes. What is the harm in census on caste? Caste system in the worst form is otherway prevelant in the country. Better we should abolish the whole caste system from our country. For this same caste marriage should be banned. Only inter-castes should be allowed.
Re: Abolish Castes. Do not oppose the census
by Hedonist on May 30, 2010 07:26 PM
Caste is in Hindu blood. All behave as if against caste but actually practise caste
Re: Re: Abolish Castes. Do not oppose the census
by bak bak on May 30, 2010 07:37 PM
are shiyyaas, sunnnnis, cathol1ics, pr0testants, d1gambar, swetaaammmmbar, mahaaaayaaaana, theraaaavaaaaada, etc etc etc religions!!!!!!
Re: Abolish Castes. Do not oppose the census
by bak bak on May 30, 2010 07:26 PM
u r highly self-contradictory!!!!!! when u abolish castes, on what basis will u conduct caste-based census!!!!!!!
Re: Re: Abolish Castes. Do not oppose the census
by Victor Johri on May 30, 2010 07:43 PM
No contradiction dear bak bak. Do caste census and if you find different castes then abolish it. Rediff campaign may be able to convert all caste to Indian Caste.
Re: Abolish Castes. Do not oppose the census
by JustToHammer on May 30, 2010 08:00 PM
Acquire status and qualification for getting married. If not, you will be a burden to your religion or caste for marrying. If you do not have skills and status, i don't think your religion nor caste will give a bride or groom based on your gender.
Re: Re: Abolish Castes. Do not oppose the census
by Victor Johri on May 30, 2010 08:51 PM
Not necessary. Huge difference in qualifications are prevelent between wives and husbands among Hindus. Can remain with inter-caste marriage also.
I am pained to read so many non-sensical notes by people who don't know how many people are there in India and do not want to know how the totals add up. I feel, we should have a broad based census not only giving information of how many of us are in this country but also give detailed data of economic conditions, different religions (including athiest), different casts (within Hindu religion), tribes (difference of language). All these difference make us one - INDIAN, but difference are always around. It's shame that people around are not only blind to the information, but also do not want others to know (and they all seems well educated as over 99% of them are rejecting information which is imporant for knowledge).
i think we must not allow any discrimination due to castes basis, that includes reservations also. If one wants people to stop discrimination then kwwp merit as the only criteria in everything. That will help a lot. There cannot be a lower or higher caste anymore. If we are treated same then this issue will go forever.
Re: Campaign against caste: 'My caste is 'Indian''
by Hedonist on May 30, 2010 07:12 PM
Your caste is Brahmin. You are oposing it bcause u belong to forward caste. But supose u get reservation for being a women then yo would have suported it Selfish indian
Re: Campaign against caste: 'My caste is 'Indian''
by Praveen Goud on May 30, 2010 07:34 PM
We are anyway indian caste by nationality. Makes no sense to make india as another caste.
Reservations are being exploited by educated people with bogus caste certificates entering legislatures and jobs too. Had reservation for which was introduced been implemented properly, by this time , india would have been in a position to annul reservation.
Reservation is implemented for oppressed castes, military people, handicapts, women and regions too. Why worry on one aspect?.
Instead of fearing hypothetically, fight for equal opportunities, social justice, against nepotism and favourtism.
If nepotism and favouritism is avoided through transparency, reservations could be annuled very soon.
Till india attains cent percent literacy rate, prevent nepotism and accountable governance through recall option , no one can dare to remove reservations.
India already tried in bringing all castes under Hindu caste failed as rituals, traditions and beliefs are not unique.