there are very high percentage of sucide due to other than ragging what we are doing for that . ragging is personality development exercise . there are more than hundred times activities during the INDIAN ARMY trainning why do not consider as regging . If you join INDIAN ARMY you should face all the require activities , you should be redy to face remaing activities . if you are not ready to face . do not have dream for ARMY . similarly if you are going to be a part of professinal institute you should be ready to face every thing other wise do not have dream for proffesional degree . this is big problem current educatinal system that people are not ready to pay hard work they are searching white coller job or easy money now the triditinal workers are giving them out put and they are enjoying their hard work . but its a sereous issue that triditional worker are being educated their importance and going to black mail their top bosses due non capability at supervisor lavel parents please think twice your child can develop through ragging only because you gave him / her an environment of HANDLE WIH CARE . it will not support to your child in their remaining life
Re: ragging is too much essential
by g.ruchir@rediffmail.com on Aug 28, 2010 03:07 PM
When you sign up for Army, you know beforehand that you have to go through rigorous training and you are prepared for that and accept that. Going into an educational institution in entirely different. You don't sign-up for ragging while doing so nor that is part of your curriculum.
Re: Re: ragging is too much essential
by sanjay kulshrestha on Sep 06, 2010 12:22 PM
any kind of trainning is a ragging , there is punishment a part of teaching in school . if you are not able to accept that punishment better to avoide study .
Re: ragging is too much essential
by sairaj navalkar on Aug 31, 2010 11:03 AM
Only the weak student get regged. I was never ragged in college. People should learn to defend other students. I was a part of a group called anti-ragging committee in my college... if we found someone raggin anyone else... we ensured that he had broken bones for sure.... ragging is stupid, it just has to stop and will stop if students like us were around. Too bad college is only for 5 yrs.
Re: Re: ragging is too much essential
by ada on Aug 31, 2010 12:24 PM
most of the people raising voice against ragging had never faced a ragging in hostels. they dont have any clear idea of ragging at all.
you'll never take on life. Simple as that. When a senior teases you, or makes you do something out of the normal, its perfectly alright. I, for one, support ragging. Not the physical beating / abusing kind though. Kids nowadays have become just so inward-looking individuals that anything another says thats not to their liking elicits such a violent response. Its essential to have self-esteem but not pride and arrogance. Ragging does just that, removes pride and arrogance and instills self-esteem and a sense of belonging. If people can't take that as a simple phase of college, then I guess we are just going to go the western way where everyone thinks they are right and others are wrong.
Re: Re: If you can't take a joke
by Raj Kiran on Aug 28, 2010 11:14 AM
A healthy form of ragging puts in place a system of heirarchy, which I feel is the perfect way of orientation/preparation for a corporate life.
Re: Re: Re: If you can't take a joke
by Iam Indian on Aug 28, 2010 09:28 PM
The question still remains unanswered satisfactorily - Who appoints the seniors as the people qualified to give the freshers this orientation/preparation for a corporate life?
It is a simple fact - seniors rag freshers for their sick entertainment, not for some altruistic noble cause like orientation/preparation for a corporate life.
Re: Re: Re: Re: If you can't take a joke
by jayant ingale on Aug 31, 2010 01:44 PM
I could not have agreed more. What is it that second and third year students know about corporate culture, that freshers don't? And which corporate culture are we talking about here? I have spent quite some time in the corporate world and I have never addressed anybody(including VPs and Directors) as sir or madam, and these college kids expect to be addressed as such. Seniors rag only for sadistic pleasure, nothing else.
Re: If you can't take a joke
by g.ruchir@rediffmail.com on Aug 28, 2010 03:15 PM
You may be right in some of your points, but when you give a gun to a person, he can either use it for security purpose or he can use it for extorting somebody. Its pretty much understood that until you dont have any control on the person, don't give him the gun. Applies to ragging too.
