some of the comments in this board are too hypocritical. We MISTREAT our fellow Indians and yet we expect ROYAL treatment from Aussies and Western Countries.
Think about it from a different perspective. People from all over India come to Bombay. The locals, Marathis, accommodate everyone. To my experience most Marathis are peaceful, god-fearing, hard-working people. I have often seen 'outsiders' commenting on locals, how they do menial jobs and about their culture in a downright degrading way. They bear it to a certain degree but when the taunts, insults, intimidation becomes too much, the locals retaliate. When the locals fight it out, there is a big hue and cry. Wonder why?? The least the outsiders could do is to stay NEUTRAL and be gracious.
From what I read from the Indan-Aussies, almost all say that we lack 'civic sense' which isn't a surprising thing. Also, we all have this regionalistic mindset. We have made a mess here and taking it to other countries as well.
PS: 1) I am not a Marathi but a Kannadiga living in Bombay. 2)I DO NOT APPROVE any form of violence as a means to justification.
Re: We need to change ourselves first.
by alok anandd on May 29, 2009 12:22 PM
Agreed,we need to change ourselves- whether first or second.All countries and cultures have problems- do we start beating them up when they visit India and then say change yourselves or else.... May be its just me, but your post does justify what happended in Australia on grounds of lack of civic sense.That is a really harsh punishment for lack of "Australian" civic sense,I must say.
Re: Re: We need to change ourselves first.
by Neo A on May 29, 2009 12:39 PM
Alok, My point is pretty simple. LETS ADAPT to where we live, be in India or anywhere else and NOT ALIENATE ourselves. There is absolutely nothing to lose if we do adapt.
I am not sure about the reason for the attacks. Could it be person-person rivalry Or some arguments which lead to this or for money? However, I am not denying the racism issue either.
Re: Re: Re: Re: We need to change ourselves first.
by Aviram Vijh on May 29, 2009 03:57 PM
Real Slave Mentality...yes it is..use your royal mentality and don't go there. It will help the genuine students who want the best education. Also, remember 'ek machli talab ko ganda karti hai'...which is the case there...half the indians...especially taxi drivers indulge in illegal activities..so all Indians are getting a bad name. Same is the case in NZ...just the NZ ppl are a little less aggresive.
Re: Re: Re: We need to change ourselves first.
by alok anandd on May 29, 2009 01:58 PM
Neo,I do agree with your point.I am actually a believer since I do travel outside India a lot although I have never been to Australia. I don't think so many attacks in so few days can be co-incidence, it is definitely racially motivated.Please type "racial attacks on Indians" in google and check what the Australian media is saying. Adaptation is required from both sides, not only from us.
Re: We need to change ourselves first.
by kaushal jha on May 29, 2009 04:32 PM
change your mentality first.Mumbai has not been built by your baap.Its India and everyone is free to live anywhere.And yes I would not support someone to taunt you even in Kolkata as you are an Indian and your have equal right there also.Grow up.
I have a question: will any of you go to the jail?guess not then why go to an island which was intended to be a jail for ex convicts, my dear country men old habits die hard, get the message which the Aussies are trying to give: get out of my territory or else we will bury yo. yet we Indians for money are ready to die have we got the guts to fight back
KILL AND DIE IS BETTER THAN DYING LIKE A COWARD...SO THAT FROM NEXT TIME EVEN THE TROUBLE MAKERS ALSO WILL BE SCARED TO MAKE TROUBLE AFTER READING THAT AN INDIAN KILLED AN AUSSIE AFTER THEY ATTACKED HIM..OUR MOTTO SHOULD BE LIVE N LET LIVE BUT IF THEY MAKE OUR LIFE MISERABLE THEN WE MAKE THEIR LIFE HELL
Re: COURAGE
by debraj chanda on May 30, 2009 03:34 PM
@Bhanu Prakash I completely agree with u.For past two days I have been advocating a violent counter-attack against these racists,not the lame Gandhigiri.These racists r real cowards,when u hit them back they will flee like some stray dogs.I would like 2 say to ur Indian students that when they attack u try to punch at least 1 of them hard on their face,believe me when they will face the mirror & see the scar they will always remember that an Indian bashed him up
all intelligent people come back india. india is changing now. Why are you staying in other countries and loosing self respect. Come and stay in your own country enjoy freedom.
Re: all intelligent people come back india. india is changing now
by Kiwi Indian on May 29, 2009 12:39 PM
India is really changing now. Now we have laws for almost anything and everything. Any successful person in his own way can be seen in the courts these days as some one is not happy with his/her success. It can be a simple corruption case, a criminal charge that is non bailable, non compoundable or even a DP or a 498A in case of a man. The legal process is so quick that the whole generation of intellects will change by the time you come out fighting the cases. As soon as the lawyers on either side of the case come to know that u are an expatriate they will come with open arms and ideas to help you for some 15 more years of court battle. So pleas come back to india. If nothing else you will make your fellow indians richer as they have made good plans to serve you intelligent people.
Re: Re: all intelligent people come back india. india is changing
by Tarun Banerji on Jun 02, 2009 04:43 PM
Dont befooled by worthless australian or newziland degrees,that too at astronomical cost.
1. almost zero curruption. 2. can u rely on indian police ?? they will demand 500Rs from u first on any trouble. 3. do u have to run & grab a bus to travel in australia & travel by standing as in asia. 4. How many scams occur in australia 5. Very small % of money is wasted in elections & campaigns 6. Are there any reservations in jobs on the basis of caste,relegions etc in australia.
7. Do there states fight like in india R Thakray says this is my maharashtra 8. I do not want to continue as the list is long & u will b ashamed.
Re: what ever u say THEY R SUPERIOR HUMAN BEINGS BCOS :-
by alok anandd on May 29, 2009 12:09 PM
Do you think the Indian police and the corruption here has come from the sky or smuggled from another world.It is us, and we have to fix it. Are you telling us that Australia is a trouble-free country?If so, may be all the news reports are false!Why there have been so few arrests till date on this issue?Who gave these people the right to behave in this manner?Why the Australian and the international media quite about it?I don't have the figures for the scams, but surely a lot of scum is produced there. Have you forgotten the Indian doctor of a minority community who was arrested on charges of terrorism, released, visa cancelled and sent back to India?Do you know that no one has apologised for it till now even though the charges have been dropped after an Australian court dismissed all the accusations? Before that happened,I always thought that it happens only in India...
Australia is the most abusive land in the world.Be it their cricketers, or any others,they have highest racist tags in their image.Even the aussie cricketers r facing attacks,recent one was Symonds in a pub,where he attacked a person,Derek Crookes the ex aussie commentator got killed in a pub.And if an Aussie sees an indian,he runs after him like a wild animal.The suggestions given by some of the indians doesn't convince me totally.
Some of them say that don't talk in ur native language and not to talk loudly,wat non-sense is this.Does it irritate Aussies,then it's sad to see that the so called developed country is extremely idiosyncrotic with their mind.
Don't any foreigner talk in their NATIVE language in india??they do!!!
The fact is these foriegn countries will never improve.The y like s@x,money,girls,racism and aggression.
India is the best country to live in,although there were some attacks on North indian too,but no such things happened to phoren babas.
India should aggressively put pressure on Aussie govt for stopping these.If Aus failed to do that,don't allow any aussies in india to india for next five yrs.It's the matter of tough action,who takes first have chances of winning more.Can india do that,our PM can't!!He can spend sleepless night for Dr.Hameed who got arrested in Aus for terror suspect,but he seems to have little sympathy towards more large no.of innocent indian students in australia
1. almost zero curruption. 2. can u rely on indian police ?? they will demand 500Rs from u first on any trouble. 3. do u have to run & grab a bus to travel in australia & travel by standing as in asia. 4. How many scams occur in australia 5. Very small % of money is wasted in elections & campaigns 6. Are there any reservations in jobs on the basis of caste,relegions etc in australia.
7. Do there states fight like in india R Thakray says this is my maharashtra 8. I do not want to continue as the list is long & u will b ashamed.
Australia is the most abusive land in the world.Be it their cricketers, or any others,they have highest racist tags in their image.Even the aussie cricketers r facing attacks,recent one was Symonds in a pub,where he attacked a person,Derek Crookes the ex aussie commentator got killed in a pub.And if an Aussie sees an indian,he runs after him like a wild animal.The suggestions given by some of the indians doesn't convince me totally.
Some of them say that don't talk in ur native language and not to talk loudly,wat non-sense is this.Does it irritate Aussies,then it's sad to see that the so called developed country is extremely idiosyncrotic with their mind.
Don't any foreigner talk in their NATIVE language in india??they do!!!
The fact is these foriegn countries will never improve.The y like s@x,money,girls,racism and aggression.
India is the best country to live in,although there were some attacks on North indian too,but no such things happened to phoren babas.
India should aggressively put pressure on Aussie govt for stopping these.If Aus failed to do that,don't allow any aussies in india to india for next five yrs.It's the matter of tough action,who takes first have chances of winning more.Can india do that,our PM can't!!He can spend sleepless night for Dr.Hameed who got arrested in Aus for terror suspect,but he seems to have little sympathy towards more large no.of innocent indian students in australia
1. almost zero curruption. 2. can u rely on indian police ?? they will demand 500Rs from u first on any trouble. 3. do u have to run & grab a bus to travel in australia & travel by standing as in asia. 4. How many scams occur in australia 5. Very small % of money is wasted in elections & campaigns 6. Are there any reservations in jobs on the basis of caste,relegions etc in australia.
7. Do there states fight like in india R Thakray says this is my maharashtra 8. I do not want to continue as the list is long & u will b ashamed.
Re: what ever u say THEY R SUPERIOR HUMAN BEINGS BCOS :-
by alok anandd on May 29, 2009 12:02 PM
Do you think the Indian police and the corruption here has come from the sky or smuggled from another world.It is us, and we have to fix it. Are you telling us that Australia is a trouble-free country?If so, may be all the news reports are false!Why there have been so few arrests till date on this issue?Who gave these people the right to behave in this manner?Why the Australian and the international media quite about it?I don't have the figures for the scams, but surely a lot of scum is produced there. Have you forgotten the Indian doctor of a minority community who was arrested on charges of terrorism, released, visa cancelled and sent back to India?Do you know that no one has apologised for it till now even though the charges have been dropped after an Australian court dismissed all the accusations? Before that happened,I always thought that it happens only in India...
