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krishna tripathi
Re: Well
by krishna tripathi on Jun 24, 2009 12:57 PM
learn to respect a mother. you say that a man is "responsible for the hardships of his wife if he cannot protect her from his mother, sisters". see your mentallity of our mothers and sisters...this message is rotting. you are so much influenced by the beauty of your wife that you dont seem to see the wrinkles of your mother.

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Spencer s
Over empowered womens in India
by Spencer s on Jun 24, 2009 11:58 AM  | Hide replies

Above message was not complete pls find the complete one.

This was the Letter, I wrote to Commissioner Gurgaon and Dy. Commissioner Gurgaon on 20/03/09. by mail. (Reference attached)

On June 04,2009, Sujata logged a FIR against me saying that I am asking for 2 lac dowry from her. Case has been registered against me in Police station Bilaspur (Gurgaon).
Now case is under judgment in Gurgaon court and the date for hearing is 28/10/09.
Where I have already spend my 2 days in police custody and 5 days in Gurgaon Jail.

Apart from this I am getting threaten that “they will Kill me” from her family on daily basis.

Now I don’t know what to do, I am writing this letter in a faith that you will help me in resoling this issue.

Thanks & regards
Sandeep kumar





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CG GANG
not a single women on this discussion board
by CG GANG on Jun 24, 2009 11:55 AM

that says it all

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Spencer s
Over Empowered womens in Indian
by Spencer s on Jun 24, 2009 11:53 AM  | Hide replies

Hi All
Here i am submitting my own recent story you please check where i am wrong.

We go married on 27/04/08 but since that day we are in disputes with each other, and day by day it is getting towards bad situation, only on the 3rd day of marriage life she asked for divorce from me and then after every day she is asking to get separate but problem is this she is not taking any action on that, only by shouting at my place in front of my parents & making issues, even she is passing wrong in formations to her parents, like we are not giving her to eat, we are fighting with her and so many. Lost of times i have spoken & met them to make them understand what is right & what is wrong but they are also empowering her instead to get right solution to resolve the matter.

She want to get separate from me, for that she is making lots of issues and mentally harassing & pressurizing, so that i would take first step.
And result of this will be like this “all blame will come to me & she and her parents will put up claim for money on me”.

She wants i should take action to get separate, as i am not doing any thing then every day she is fighting with my family and with me to create unbearable atmosphere.
if she want to get separate, her parents should take action on this or if she want to stay with me in this case her parent should come in front to take us out of this conflict to save our future.
This was the Letter, I wrote to Commissioner and Dy.Commissioner Gurgaon on 20/03/09

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fun guy
Re: Over Empowered womens in Indian
by fun guy on Jun 24, 2009 12:05 PM
There are millions of similar cases. This is fate of Indian male. I am sure this is going to destruct Indian family. The DV Act is foundation stone for everything.

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bharat vats
Re: Over Empowered womens in Indian
by bharat vats on Jun 24, 2009 12:27 PM
keep maintaining a diary also of what she does and what she says..do it everyday this will help you in court in case she files cases against u

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Souvik Jana
Re: Over Empowered womens in Indian
by Souvik Jana on Jun 24, 2009 11:57 AM
get divorced man.... it will be better for u only

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krishna tripathi
Re: Re: Over Empowered womens in Indian
by krishna tripathi on Jun 24, 2009 12:54 PM
the irony is, he cant get a divorce without paying her a huge huge amount...even if she is guilty

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Ramanath Babu
Re: Over Empowered womens in Indian
by Ramanath Babu on Jun 24, 2009 12:28 PM
Spencers,

Why should a woman demand separation on the 3rd day of divorce? You are obviously hiding something and putting on all the blame on girl. It cannot be like that. If a woman herself is seeking divorce and breaking her own married life, there could be some solid reason behind that. Marriage is not a child's play.

Atleast I cannot take everything you said on its face value.

Agreed that there are several women who are taking advantage of the women friendly rules and regulation we have brought in. But in your case, there are something more than what you stated herein.





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krishna tripathi
Re: Re: Over Empowered womens in Indian
by krishna tripathi on Jun 24, 2009 12:53 PM
you are sick ramnath. i can count 100 reasons for which she may do that but there is no place here. i have been through all this. and for u I and "Spencer" may be criminals but for a man who has been throught this, everything will fit into place. i dont blame you. nobody will ever understand the problem of a male unless he himself is a victim of such law...

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Ramanath Babu
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by Ramanath Babu on Jun 24, 2009 12:59 PM
I am a married man, aged 52 years. I got married at 30 that means, it is over 22 years since then. I had my differences of opinion with my spouse and at times I felt the boat will break. But for our children's sake, good sense prevailed upon both of us. Marriage is all about compromises. The girl and boy are brought up in two different set of backgrounds

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Ramanath Babu
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by Ramanath Babu on Jun 24, 2009 01:04 PM
Mr. Tripathi,

You must have undergone a lot of trauma. That does not mean that in every matrimonial discord, the woman is at fault. Most of you people are carried away by emotion. Indian masses reacts to sharply on many things. When Ram Jethmalini decided to take up the case of Kehar Singh, the accused of Indira Gandhi assassination, he was labelled as devil's advocate. How can you judge who is at fault in Spencer's case without listining to both sides? Just because, you had a bad experience from your wife or in laws, you label all the women in the same category. Do not forget that your mother is also a woman.



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krishna tripathi
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by krishna tripathi on Jun 24, 2009 02:58 PM
i have not written that a woman is at fault always. instead, u have written that the man is always wrong. read ur statement "Why should a woman demand separation on the 3rd day of divorce? You are obviously hiding something"..this is not done. u cant say that a woman will not lie. i am only saying that a fair trial should be done. it is u who is saying that a man is always wrong. regarding mother being a woman, all the sufferers of a bad marriage are suffering because they love their mothers. further, dont hate men, after all your father is also a man!!!

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Thran
Re: Re: Over Empowered womens in Indian
by Thran on Jun 24, 2009 04:13 PM
From your own statement Mr Ramanath Babu, it seems that your wife had tolerated you and bear you for succesfull marriage, your contribution toward family was zero, she was the one who sacrfied to keep marriage alive and NOT you. because according to your conservative mind set, its only men who wants to break marriage.
There was recent case in bangalore where girl married 11 boys, from every marriage she extorted crores of rupees and for your kind information it was "legal extortion" .For every marriage breakup she received lacs rupees as alimony. :)
1) Conservatives believe women are weak and will remain weak always.
2) Conservatives think women are "Abla Nari" and they want to show their shoulders to help women.
3) Conservatives believe that Men are Responsible even for women's actions. They think women have no brains and think a woman will never harass men without any reason.
4)Conservative Judges do not give divorce for 7 to 17 years and say,"That is God's wish".

Feminists have started a Gender War on Men.

Now, the Society wants Men to follow Ceasefire and tells us,"we do not want deep rift between men and women."

However, the same society allows Feminists to keep building their Arsenal to attack men in more and more front.

The same society remains completely silent when men are attacked and treated like second class citizens.
I am sorry. Conservatives have Oppressed Men more than Feminists.
Liberals said, Markandeya Katju's statements are Sexis

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krishna tripathi
why women get all the attention?
by krishna tripathi on Jun 24, 2009 11:47 AM  | Hide replies

why is there no discussion on "violence faced by men in their own homes"? men face violence in their homes, in the offices, and also in the society. they are always discriminated. they always face the ire of the society if any small difference happens between him and a lady! VIOLENCE IS BAD. IT SHOULD BE CONDEMNED IRRESPECTIVE OF THE GENDER OF THE VICTIM. STOP PRAISING WOMEN IF THEY SLAP THEIR HUSBAND. people have a tendency to think "if the husband has slapped his wife then the husband is 100% wrong and if the wife has slapped her husband then the husband is 200% wrong". Stop this perverted thinking.

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CG GANG
Re: why women get all the attention?
by CG GANG on Jun 24, 2009 11:51 AM
looks like you had it bad mate, the fact is women do stuff what is fashionable its fashionable for them to do male bashing these days

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Umesh Sharma
women enemy of women
by Umesh Sharma on Jun 24, 2009 11:47 AM  | Hide replies

all feminist activist must first look at role of women in harassment of women,men normaly do not do this, the adage -100 men can live under 1 roof, 2 women cannot. it is surprising the attitue of women towards each other in roles om mom/mom in law/sisiter/sister in law/daughter / daughter in law, double standards. iam am not a MCP but that is the truth, also major wars in human civilisations have been due to women. there is also the famous where there is a woman behind every sucessful man. these are truths of life the feminists shud lokk at these aspects

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Ramanath Babu
Re: women enemy of women
by Ramanath Babu on Jun 24, 2009 12:43 PM
Since the time man abandoned his nomadic way of life and started settling at a place, he began to amass properties - both moveable and immovable. He fenced land around him and declared that it is his land. He caught cattle, domesticsed them and declared that itis his assets. Woman is also considered as an asset by the socieity from time immemmorial. Everybody wanted to stake claim on beautiful women. Yes, wars were fought on women. It is said, if there was a slight bend on Cleopatra's nose, the history of world would have been something else! So much of the women's beauty and her ability to conquer mens' heart. In the mdoern era, we have to strike a balance. We must admit that woman is not a moveable property. She should have equal status. But at the same time women should also realise that they can make or break a home. A woman is respected in the socieity, when she behaves like a lady.

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Umesh Sharma
woman enemy of woman
by Umesh Sharma on Jun 24, 2009 11:41 AM  | Hide replies

you will find in majority of dowry harassment cases it is mom ,sis in law who are invoved, basicaly women are the wqorst enemies of women, there is a famous adage, 100 men can live under 1 roof, 2 women cannot. u will also see that major wars have been fought over women only, it doesnot mean we need to encourage atrocities against them or have any bias aganst women, but what can one do to prevent crimes/ harassment of women by women.

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CG GANG
Re: woman enemy of woman
by CG GANG on Jun 24, 2009 11:52 AM
sharmaji,

good one! A point to be noted.

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Ottavio Quattrocchi
This is a serious matter.....
by Ottavio Quattrocchi on Jun 24, 2009 11:36 AM

while most educated people will not treat the women folk badly at all, others still carry on doing it.

What is required is concrete steps and not CANDLE LIGHT PHOTO OP SESSIONS AT INDIA GATE OR THE GATEWAY OF INDIA.


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fightagaintevils
nowadays
by fightagaintevils on Jun 24, 2009 11:25 AM  | Hide replies

living rltionship is gettin popular.media and politicos are overacting in this issue.not gud for the nation as a whole.

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Souvik Jana
Re: nowadays
by Souvik Jana on Jun 24, 2009 12:00 PM
LiveIn is best... There wont be any problem as anyone can leave when they feel like... India should adopt the Legislature of France in this respect...

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