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CAT 2009: An ironic tale of management


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sukhendra  sengupta
CAT 2009
by sukhendra sengupta on Dec 14, 2009 12:11 PM

What an irony! The biggest and most reputed institute failed to manage their entrance test administration. Any answer? Is it not a complete failure to them who teach management to the whole country/world?No excuse is sufficient as the same will be seen as a blatant excuse now.They utterlyly failed in "Management of change".

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piri
Not everyone studying at IIMs is entitled
by piri on Dec 13, 2009 05:32 PM  | Hide replies


to the cockiness usually associated with IIM students. They derive this cockiness primarily from the reputation of the CAT as one of the toughest entrance tests for any institute in the world.

The IIMs have a complex way of completing the selection of their students. Merit is gauged differently for different sections of the students. Apart from the well known issue of reservations for the SCs and STs (where the CAT cut offs are much much lower than those for the general category students), there is the lesser known issue of how the IIMs pit students from different graduate disciplines against each other.

Within the general category section too (where competition is supposed to be equally tough for everyone), the IIMs set different benchmarks for students who have an engineering background and for those who are not engineers. Most of the IIMs have it as a policy to have a percentage of it's students from non-engineering backgrounds. In a straight contest (where the CAT cut offs are kept uniform for every candidate), engineering graduates (especially those from the IITs) will dominate the others so much so that very few non-engineering candidates will get selected. To work around this fact, the IIMs add a candidate's score in different sections of the CAT to his overall score. For engineering graduates, their quantitative score is added to their overall score.

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piri
Re: Not everyone studying at IIMs is entitled
by piri on Dec 13, 2009 05:34 PM

For commerce or arts candidates however, their verbal score is added to their overall score.

Now, it is a statistical fact that almost all well prepared candidates (engineers as well as others) score much better in the verbal section than in the quantitative section. For instance, most well prepared candidates who have a good aptitude score in the range of 40 to 45 (out of 50) in the verbal section whereas they reach only about 28 to 35 in the quant. section. When the 'topping' up of the individual scores is done with that in the mandated section scores, the non-engineers thus usually get a 10 to 15 point 'advantage' !!

This is how one can find about 20 to 30 percent of the IIM students from non-engineering backgrounds.

But of course, most (engineers or not) keep giving off that cocky smile and consciously wear that supposed air of distinction !!


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Nalin Kishore
CAT o 9 Travails !!!
by Nalin Kishore on Dec 13, 2009 03:13 PM

The IIMs should be renamed Indian Institutes of MISMANAGEMENT. Sab Chikne Ghade Hain, they teach others how to manage, themselves are most inefficient bunch of jokers.

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Raja Srinivasan
They still learn
by Raja Srinivasan on Dec 11, 2009 05:55 PM  | Hide replies

"Michelangelo was seventy two years old when he was appointed the chief architect of St Peter's and commissioned to embellish this great temple with his paintings and statues. For EIGHTEEN YEARS he continued this work which made his fame as imperishable as the church itself. Toward the end, when his eyesight failed and he had become feeble, he had his servants carry him into the great halls and galleries and chapels,where he had labored with such vim and enthusiasm. He would run his hands over the statues and carvings, feeling out with his dexterous fingers the details that his eyes could no longer see, and he often exclaimed, " I STILL LEARN" ".

The learning curve in this case is still on. Education and learning are unending processes and any contrarian thought should attempt ignorance to realize its true value.

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vivek
Re: They still learn
by vivek on Dec 11, 2009 08:43 PM
What shit? How does it relates to incompetence of IIMs, system failure, passing bucks and blighted careers?

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common sense
Re: Re: They still learn
by common sense on Dec 12, 2009 11:35 AM
It is ok; he copied and pasted the para he must have come accross while reading some thing random and liked; he is trying to share thats all

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Raja Srinivasan
Re: Re: Re: They still learn
by Raja Srinivasan on Dec 15, 2009 06:28 AM
I possibly can decipher the meaning. Clues possibly lie in the capital letters. EIGHTEEN YEARS refers to the Prometric's existence., and I STILL LEARN to the learning process associated with any new venture. Is he commending the computerised testing without justifying the way implementing process. If so, he certainly is a master.

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