do not know whether this lady is true or a money maker but i beleive in past births, souls, Gurus,God & so on. You got to feel these things, unfortunately some people could not feel it, they are like blind people . Pl. note science has limitation, they can give explanation for many things that has happened but they cannot rule out a thing just because it has not occured. Spirutalism is much above everything, U got to be blessed to understand & enjoy it. Today one may feel strongly about something but some occurance in future might change one's view point all together, so people should not jump to some conclusion, Dont think sceince know everything, Recently in discovery channel, program came about meditation, science could not give any explanation about how people can meditate for weeks continuosly without food or moving but the same program showed people doing so in forests,they has 24x7 camera next to them to prove that they did not move or go somewhere to eat scientists concluded they were puzzled on how it is possible.
Past life regression proves that philosphies that believe in re incarnation are absolutely true. It also points out to the failure of the 3 Abrahamic dogmatic cults that have ruined world especially the last one.
Re: Re: Just looking at this lady is enough.
by sdt on Dec 07, 2009 10:37 PM
ya sure these guys are useless but there has to be a creator and there have been instances where kids after learning to talk have told their parents that their family is somewhere else. This can also be a science as people talk about time travel, and also the recently achieved cloning. If u read the vedas its clearly mentioned when life/soul enters the womb of a pregnant women somehwere around 54 days after formation of egg(whatever scientific name). So u dont have to be soarrogant that its not possible coz a bunch of idiots playing with the minds of people on TV. People will laugh 100 years ago at u if u go and tell them that cloning is gonna take place in 21st century. Same way as u r laughing that time travel, past life ,even stopping aging is possible. Also note that now scientists are even finding out ways to seperate a singlesperm to give multiple births. If u read the Mahabharata is was performed that time to get 100Kauravas as their father was not potent as u can say. Not to mention I also assumed it as myth but u can even see that with science tomorrow u can see elephant head attached to a mans body and cloned as lordganesha has. People including me have found many stories and tales in Ramayana/ Mahabharata as myths but some are seen to be possible. Who knows maybe after 100 years from now telepathy, teleporting, not aging, time travel will be possible.
Re: Re: Re: Just looking at this lady is enough.
by Tathagata Dasmajumder on Dec 07, 2009 10:49 PM
by the way a sinlge sperm can not be seprated for multiple birth, as it has only 23 pairs of chromosomes.
That is the problem, you believe, because it was written in some book, without questioning it. All the cultures ancient had myths of gods who were animal man combinations, it did not mean they achieved it. There is differenc ebetween time travel and past life, time travel may be possible but past life does not exis.
Think rationally and give hard evidence before claiming anything foolishly
Re: Re: Re: Re: Just looking at this lady is enough.
by Tathagata Dasmajumder on Dec 07, 2009 10:50 PM
telepathy is not a science, but pseudoscience and as baseless and god and religion
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Just looking at this lady is enough.
by Arun Radhakrishnan on Dec 07, 2009 11:26 PM
Dear Talhagata, I do not know whether this lady is true or a money maker but i beleive in past births, souls, Gurus,God & so on. You got to feel these things, just because you did not feel it, u cant say it does not exist. I accept if u say i have not experienced it or I do not have time to do these. How much time & effort have u put to understand the spirituality, Pl. note that science has limitation, they can give explanation for many things that has happened but they cannot rule out a thing just because it has not occured. Spirutalism is much above everything, U got to be blessed to understand & enjoy it.If U want to pursue materialistic life style, it is not a loss for spirituality,it is much more than that Today u may feel strongly about something today but some occurance in future might change your view point all together, so dont jump to some conclusion, Dont think you or sceince know everything, Recently in discovery channel, program came about meditation, science could not give any explanation about how people can meditate for weeks continuosly without food or moving but the same program showed people doing so in forests,they has 24x7 camera next to them to prove that they did not move or go somewhere to eat scientists concluded they were puzzled on how it is possible. All people are equally brilliant. try to appreciate that
Re: Re: Re: Re: Just looking at this lady is enough.
by Sharadkumar Balyapelli on Dec 08, 2009 11:58 AM
Hello Tataninaa bengali... Do not talk like muslims...whatever brain you have utilise for your own sake rathar than questioning...that will be great help to this world
Re: Re: Re: Re: Just looking at this lady is enough.
by Bhediya on Dec 07, 2009 11:23 PM
Is it true of tattirist's religionnn asnd their boook also Mr. Pakeeee
Until and unless science solves the link or phase after death and before birth, these things will be accepted by society.
Atleast these give some explanation as science has none, no explanation for difference between a dead and alive person what happened or what left that it became dead ???
Re: Re: Re: Unsolved stuff
by Pen diamond on Dec 09, 2009 09:53 AM
Sorry, life is not biomolecules, it is the journey of the soul through the biomolecules, YOU ARE NOT BIOMOLECULES, YOU ARE THE SOUL
Re: Re: Re: Unsolved stuff
by Tathagata Dasmajumder on Dec 07, 2009 09:28 PM
what is reverse bio chemical? did you understand what I said REACTIONS STOP, but life doesn´t end there, microbial life, insects, takes hold of that body and makes it as their food and continues the circle of life.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Unsolved stuff
by Tathagata Dasmajumder on Dec 07, 2009 09:32 PM
I am very happy that there are so many people in this forum who can courageously say that these past life, soul these things are fraud
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Unsolved stuff
by openlight on Dec 07, 2009 09:35 PM
fraud is done by persons to exhort money but in reality, death is still biggest riddle for science. Even science is preplexed by other phenomenon eg. graviy, dual nature of light, etc.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Unsolved stuff
by openlight on Dec 07, 2009 09:31 PM
but why does reactions stop at specific time or even for an healthy or perfect reactions person?? is it an cut off timer / depletion of some stuff ??
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Unsolved stuff
by Tathagata Dasmajumder on Dec 07, 2009 09:37 PM
BTW, ramachandran, the indian american who got nobel prize this yaer did it by finding out one mystrty of those biochemcial reaction only.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Unsolved stuff
by Tathagata Dasmajumder on Dec 07, 2009 09:35 PM
have you ever heard of bearings in cars? they corrode afetr certain time, same is with living animals (man is also an animal).
If it does not corrode naturally it can alo end in accidents like car accident which can also deplete bearings.
For your information , research is going on now how to stop this depletion and there might be succcess during our lifetime only.
They might also create artifical life in laboratory in our lifetime.
Re: Re: Unsolved stuff
by Giridhar Gopal on Dec 07, 2009 11:39 PM
Bichemical reactions? Is that the cause for everything? Think dude, u were yapping about rationality. I would say BC reaction is a consequence and not the cause. What about 'thought'? Is that also BC reaction? why do diff ppl think differently? The 'scientist' looks only at the 'physical' aspect of life(only that is measurable, repeatable etc). You guys don't realize that thought(and the intensity of thought) is what manifests as actions(which is physical, measurable, BC reactions..etc). Has there ever been a case where externally induced chemical reactions on a body has changed the mindset of a person? It has never happened. If at all it has happened, it is very temporary in nature and of course with disastrous effects on the body(for eg Alcohol, drugs..etc). But there have been numerous cases where the type of BC reaction changes when the thought process of a person inherently changes(the effect is permanent without any side effects to the body). I am not promoting this reality show. All I am asking you to do it, THINK and don't remain a 'Frog in the well'.
Re: Re: Re: Unsolved stuff
by happy apple on Dec 08, 2009 12:35 AM
it is superstitions people like you who should THINK. When whole world is progressing, you are like a frog in the well, still believing some thousand year old nonsense. Unlike superstitions, science believes in proof, if you can prove whatever you are telling, science has no problems in accepting it. All these soul etc are non sense, everybody can come up with these fairy tales. We can't start believing all these stories.
this channel knows that this is saleable topic because there are lots of superstitious people in india but this channel had to have some senses to teach people some science then to make the mind of indians who r superstitious more corrupt
Re: What rubbish is this
by Tathagata Dasmajumder on Dec 07, 2009 08:56 PM
I think rather than teaching science, we need to teach critical thinking to students, because you can not make a kidergarten student learn about evolution and relativity or quantum mechanics, but you can teach them critical thinking, questioning, veryfying things with proof and evidence.
Re: Re: What rubbish is this
by Head Ach on Dec 07, 2009 09:00 PM
i agree with you on critical thinking but even science have lots of simple things to teach then to put after life thought in young minds
Re: Re: Re: What rubbish is this
by Tathagata Dasmajumder on Dec 07, 2009 09:10 PM
that´s true, but if you teach them critical thinking, then they will start to question those afterlife thoughts, that questioning is very important.
Re: Re: Re: Re: What rubbish is this
by Tathagata Dasmajumder on Dec 07, 2009 09:20 PM
small amounts of science is already taught in schools, but the problem is without critical thinking they just read it to pass the exams, not build on them to know what is truth
Some creationists and pseudoscientists claim taht there must have been a creator and there should be souls, otherwise we can not explain complexity. So the logic is as it is complex, so these are true!!!!
So if there is a wall, there should be a builder.
What is complexity? Sea Beaches which are not tourist spots, we see driftwood , these driftwood sometimes form complex walls with lots of ridges and craters which are habitant of birds, amphibians and reptiles, but this wall was built by forces of nature randomly without a purpose and if we see a man made wall, it is very simple in construction and there was a purpose of building it and does not provide any habitat, it only shows complexity does not mean a creator and basically natural proccesses can give rise to aparent complexity and no purpose in it can give rise to complex system
Re: Complexity
by Babu on Dec 07, 2009 08:40 PM
You have answered for the benefit of people you call as pseudo scientific creationists, with your analogy of 'driftwood' forming the habitat for 'life'.
The issue is the 'absolute perfection' in the reasoning of these so called 'random complexities' as you prefer to call them.
That 'Perfection' is what makes Great Scientists like 'Stephen Hawkins' question 'Who is he'? while we Indians are sitting before NDTV scoundrels and a 'Criminal of a Doctor of Medicine' who try to make the populace into 'Uncivilized Savages with obscure' beliefs, when India is trying hard to educate and uplift the same masses.
Re: Re: Complexity
by Bhediya on Dec 07, 2009 11:28 PM
These 'uncivilized savages with obscure beliefs' were your forefathers who gave thye whole wrold knowledge and capability to think,write,debate and critcise.
Re: Re: Complexity
by Tathagata Dasmajumder on Dec 07, 2009 08:47 PM
I do not think there is something called perfection, but obviously my reasoning is not as good as hawking, but I tried to give a simple example hor pseudoscientists always give stress upon complexity to show there is creator while all the complexity is is due to natural selction and evulution, there is no designer for it.
Re: Re: Re: Complexity
by Tathagata Dasmajumder on Dec 07, 2009 08:48 PM
some frauds always try to make a living by foolign people, in India also in USA though societies like scientology.
What they fail to understand that they never give any proof, but only say this sage has said it , taht´s why it is true
Re: Re: Re: Re: Complexity
by Tathagata Dasmajumder on Dec 07, 2009 08:51 PM
by reasoning with driftwood wall, I tried to show that these walls are not perfect but very irregular and lacks any design, but they produce and sustain life, while so called mad mad eperfect wall fails to do that.
The inference is perfection does not do any good any natural world, but being messy is the name of the game.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Complexity
by Sameer Bhagwat on Dec 08, 2009 04:55 AM
Tathagata, do build those walls you also need drift woods ? The universe is more complex than a wall. If I give you all the pieces of an airplane will a wind put all the peices together and make it fly? The universe is a million times more complex than the above problem.
Re: Complexity
by nai on Dec 07, 2009 08:36 PM
thank you for your gyaaaan. now go home and take rest before your complex brain evolves into a simpler one.