Not BJP but RSS is the main reason for the defeat of BJP. BJP should liberate itself from the shackles of RSS and its various children in the form of VHP, Bajrangi, Sadhvi, Purohit etc. BJP, under Vajpayee Sahab,had done really a great job. It is not the fanaticism and negative approach towards minorities of Modi & Advani that will take BJP any further. If the BJP toes the line of Sangh parivar they will surely go back to their 1984 tally of 2 MPs very soon.
India needs strong 2 party system. BJP can develop itself as a strong alternatve to Congress which is heavily dependent on dynastic rulers. However blaming the voters, the media and all those who are opposed to Sangh Parivars views and their methods of butchering the minorities will give them nothing.
RSS is trying to put its blame on BJP. RSS should introspect itself for its fanatic views and as a social orgnstn should remain away from politics. Their involvement in BJP affairs is detrimental to both RSS & BJP. IF RSS can not, BJP on itself should snap its ties with RSS and give a new outlook as a modern party fighting for the real causes of suffering people of India. It should stop depending heavily on Brahmins & Baniyas.
The real master stroke would be to keep away the RSS, VHP, Bajrangi and other fanatics who are engaged in violent methods and pouring poison in the society. Not many, other than Brahmins, agree with the views of RSS. Though they try to show patriotism, their ideology is corrupt and inhuman.
BJP is Better Placed now than Congress in 1999 Elections.
Similarly BJP should try to come up. It will also come up, no need to worry.
It should work for poor and play politics like Yeddiyurappa in Karnataka.
BJP should use all tatics of Congress to retain in power. It should not shy to retain tainted minsters to stay in power. Which is Congress Culture. But BJP should follow the same. BJP should not disown thier own leader even if they are tainted until one reach to majority of thier own at Centre.
BJP should fill thier own peoples where ever possible to reach their Goal.(How Congress is retaining Chawla as CEC).
BJPs loss this time is a definite say in its survival. It has second rung leaders but they dont have consensus for their leader. Be it Joshi, modi, Jaitley, Rajnath none of them has the charisma like Vajpayee, Advani.
It stands at cross roads regarding in its dilemna of right or righteous center, since most of the middle classe majority distanced from BJP this time.
With determined english media and congi allies who are pseudo secularists by nature, continue painting BJP as communal for being mouthpiece of highly divided h1ndu community, BJP seems lost its voice in the midst of the din.
Modi cant think of becoming PM candidate until and unless SIT case now being run for gujarat riots gives him a clean chit and exonerate him. But congi will do all out fight against him to put him behind bars.... it is at best to influence President, SC, CBI and everyone who matters.... tough time for modi.
Either because we have been slaves for far too long or because the Conparty (currently led by the reportedly semiliterate italian) has indoctrinated the minds of the gullible public to believe that we are secular, we have committed the crime of electing the Conparty. I think a society as shameful as ours does not deserve a tall and able leader like Advani or Modi. Anyway, I congratulate the Conparty for having been able to dupe us for so long.
People in this forum are writing and talking about BJP. Why are you people concerned about a almost dead party. Please forget the past and look forward to the Golden era of Rahulji coming. Pl talk about Rahulji and Priyankaji our future. Please imagine when Rahulji become Priminister, there will be no povery and unemployment in India. It will be true.
Re: Why talking about BJP and Advani ?
by ammu sarkar on May 25, 2009 10:04 PM
you are dreaming in Day, Pls forget all those promises Elections are over now.They will do work to fulfill atleast 10% of those promises.They have won in next LS election.
Re: Why talking about BJP and Advani ?
by lagaan on May 26, 2009 09:58 AM
Rahul and Priyanka as leaders or PM is reflection of feudalistic mindset of armchair idiots like you..... now you know why educated sensible indians think about others?
Re: Why talking about BJP and Advani ?
by subramanyasastry hoskote on May 26, 2009 12:25 AM
Not everybody hallucinates like you. Nor are all people as idiotic as you are!
Re: Why talking about BJP and Advani ?
by BALA R on May 25, 2009 10:59 PM
You should know how much Government of India was spending for rahul and priyanka when they were not in position few years ago. Now the spending is in multifolds...they live like King and Queen but show extrodinary simplicity outside! You fellows are continuously cheated, we literates suffer. Congress has billions of blck money stashed out! This will never come back to India.
Re: Re: Why talking about BJP and Advani ?
by AmarAkbarAntony on May 26, 2009 12:54 PM
You only has got to groan like you are doing now for another five years atleast and keep speculating idiot's conspiracy theories
Frustrated old hags of BJP are trying to find a scapegoat in Modi for their nonperformance and electoral defeat. Advani's ambition to be the PM spread a wool on his eyes and BJP tagged along. Modi is the only BJP leader who can deliver. He should dump BJP to found an organization modeled after his own discipline and governance. As an alternative,perhaps the BJP can be reformed under Modi's leadership.
The issue of the Kashmiri Hindous. Was that wrong? Or demanding revocation of the Prevention of Terrorism Act and stringent measures against terrorists? Or the agitation for the Amarnath land and preservation of the unique world heritage and a symbol of faith like the Ram Sethu? The nationalists opposed the divisive politics of Raj Thackeray, who was propped up by the Congress to counter the Shiv Sena. Was opposing Raj wrong? They were responsible for Pokaran-II and were committed to preserve our rights for Pokaran-III if needed. Was that against the national interest? On the eve of the polls they said forget 1984, but remember Gujarat. What mentality did it show? The nationalists wanted Article 370 to go and Kashmir fully integrated with the rest of India. Was that against national integration? Should India be governed on religious fragmentation and parochial chauvinism or on the basis of egalitarianism, equal rights and privileges to all rising above the communal lines? Let everyone ponder -- Hindous have been continuously assaulted for the last 1,200 years. Do they have a right to preserve their heritage and way of life after a partitioned independence or not?
Re: What were the issues that the 'communalists' raised?
by Sardar Patel on May 25, 2009 04:30 PM
On the contrary Congress, whatever they believed in, they delivered. Removed POTA, faced opposition. Didn't relent. Introduced reservations for the Muslims. Faced opposition. Didn't relent. Constituted Sachar Committee. Its divisive attitude and faulty inferences were discussed and severely criticised. It didn't budge an inch and carried on. Faced a barrage of criticism on the delay in hanging Parliament attack accused Afzal Guru. It stood sweetly firm. It de-froze Octavio Quattrocchi's accounts in London, unshackled him from the Central Bureau of Investigation. The media and the others cried foul. So what? It remained cool. It kept silent over Nandigram, Singur. But had the prudence to tie up with the Trinamool Congress. And succeeded in defeating the Left. It gave huge amounts of plan allocation funds to the minorities ignoring the majority Hindou concerns. So what? It got Hindou middle-class votes plus Muslim ones. It faced flak on its policy to combat terrorism, had to change its home minister and the chief minister of Maharashtra post the 26/11 attacks. Yet it won in Mumbai handsomely. It got a nuke deal passed despite the entire Opposition and one of its key allies opposing it in one language. It saw silently that Parliament was turned into a bazaar. Yet it won the Muslims and a new mandate. And the Hindoutva group faced a powerfully hostile section of the media. Some of them became an instrument to oppose Hindou assertions maligning them with celebrative ent
Re: What were the issues that the 'communalists' raised?
by dhandu on May 25, 2009 04:47 PM
UPA has changed the emblem of the Kendriya Vidyalaya Sangathan from Lotus and shining Sun to Cross and Crescent. And this has been done in the name of “broader reflection of national ethos.” Board of Governors of KVS in its 79th meeting held on 26.6.2008 approved the new logo and a circular was sent to all offices and schools of the Sangathan on July 17, 2008, to change the emblem in all the publications and communications. Though the chairman of KVS, HRD Minister Arjun Singh did not attend the meeting, the minutes of the meeting stated that the emblem has been approved by the chairman. His deputy Shri Md Ali Ashraf Fatmi, Minister of State, HRD & Deputy Chairman, was also not present at the meeting. circular issued by the Asst. Commissioner (Acad I), KVS, said “in order to give a broader reflection of national ethos and ought (sic) to be inclusive of challenges, opportunities, rationalistic, scientific and global thinking, advances in science & technology & social changes taking place in the society” (sic) the new emblem has been created.The picture shows a book with blank pages, and apparently two human forms emerging from globe. The crescent (an Islamic symbol) and two crosses and stars (Christian) are obvious. UPA govt released coins of Rs 2 denomination with cross on them. There is move to change our national motto ‘Satyameva Jayate’
Re: Re: What were the issues that the 'communalists' raised?
by Cricket on May 25, 2009 05:30 PM
To dhundu, durga, patel - wondering wen all u loosers will grow up
Re: Re: Re: What were the issues that the 'communalists' raised
by subramanyasastry hoskote on May 26, 2009 12:29 AM
truth triumphs no longer holds in this age of deceit and cheating.
Re: Re: Re: What were the issues that the 'communalists' raised
by lagaan on May 26, 2009 10:02 AM
thats what you should ask yourself, your thinking of congcross which is a reflection of feudalistic, burdent of legacy of nehrus (gandhi is a definite misnomer for indira, sonia etc..) mindset. congress dead with mahatma.
Re: What were the issues that the 'communalists' raised?
by AmarAkbarAntony on May 26, 2009 01:03 PM
Forget governing us,the educated Indians, who respect each others dignity, until you give up your clearly dented ideologies.You'll only devastate india's development, if voted to power, inflicting communal problems and nothing else. You party won't win elections until Congress does some mistake
