Re: Re: Demolition Specialist.
by Sukumar Mehta on May 18, 2009 11:44 PM
No, JGN. I am not afraid. I am enjoying the fate he has faced. He thought his chance had come, as Vajpayee was unwell. And he got a supporter who inflated him beyond limits. I am happy to both of them deflated. I know your sorrow. But you will have to live with it. Mr Advani too will have to live with the bitter realisation that people of India did not get misled by his speeches, TV appearances, fist-clenching, weight-lifting, sword wielding etc, etc.
Re: Re: Re: Demolition Specialist.
by JGN on May 18, 2009 11:48 PM
I am not a BJP supporter. Every one opposing the Congis is not a "sanghi". At least I am happy that all the "cut-pieces" still shiver at the thought of Advani and Modi. That is a good sign.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Demolition Specialist.
by Sukumar Mehta on May 18, 2009 11:57 PM
JGN, you had a field day before election and wrote a lot of rubbish about Congress, Sonia, MMS. Now you must eat your words and apply burnol where it hurts. You did not answer my comments above, regarding the shattering of ex-PM-in-waiting's dreams.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Demolition Specialist.
by JGN on May 19, 2009 12:10 AM
Yes, I will still write against them. Their getting less than majority has not made me their fan. I do not hesitate calling a spade a spade.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Demolition Specialist.
by JGN on May 19, 2009 12:13 AM
I am not worried about BJP coming to power or not. MMS is the most shameless person I have ever seen in my life. He had no shame in lambasting the "commies" in the name of some imaginary events of 1942 at a meeting at Cochin (after being the PM with their support for four-and-a-half years from 2004 to 2009) and the very next day at another meeting he had told that he would take their support if need arises.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Demolition Specialist.
by Sukumar Mehta on May 19, 2009 12:01 AM
JGN, I am sorry that Advani will not be the PM. He had promised incometax exemption upto Rs 3 lakhs. I am also sorry that he tried to frighten people in the name of terrorism and taxation but people were not that gullible.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Demolition Specialist.
by JGN on May 19, 2009 12:13 AM
I am not worried about BJP coming to power or not. MMS is the most shameless person I have ever seen in my life. He had no shame in lambasting the "commies" in the name of some imaginary events of 1942 at a meeting at Cochin (after being the PM with their support for four-and-a-half years from 2004 to 2009) and the very next day at another meeting he had told that he would take their support if need arises.
Re: Re: .............
by mahabodhi on May 18, 2009 11:50 PM
@vishal the RSS supporters r well off- most have trade- Govt. jobs ...and have exploited poors 95% Indians for centuries ..... so they have only desire that status quo be maintained and their hegemony be stable !They should have a house maid for doing household chored while their obese wiwes watch TV serials -of Saas Bahu- and they travel by man driven rickshaw and argue over even one or two ruppees with the poor rickshaw man ----while spending thousand of notes over BAR GIRLS or as Rahul Mahajan did -USE FIVE HUNDRED NOTE FOR TAKING DRUGS ..... THESE R TRUE FACTS ABOUT BJP PSYCHE ........
Re: Re: Re: .............
by JGN on May 19, 2009 12:06 AM
mahabodhi, such characters exists in all parties. Mr. Abu Azmi had declared wealth of Rs. 4 crores in 2004 and in 2009 he declared wealth of Rs. 122 crores. I really do not know how a person can increase his wealth from 4 crores to 122 crores in just 5 years!!!!! There are 300 crorepatis in the present Lok Sabha according to another article on Rediff itself. And of course there is no need to talk about one Mr. Q....who ran away with Rs. 21 crores of our tax-payer's money.
Re: Weak Leader of the opposition
by Sukumar Mehta on May 18, 2009 11:16 PM
Let him be there and enjoy a ministerial status as per constitution. He will be able to retain car, bungalow and will bring back money from Swiss Banks, for us.
BJP is destroyed for ever,RAM did not protected BJP.Let Soniaji,Rahulji and Prinkaji rule India because they are better than the best,that's why people elected Congress,last election I proudly voted for BJP,BUT MAJORITY INDIANS VOTED FOR CONGRESS in coming elections I will also vote for congress.JAI JAI CONGRESS,JAI JAI SONIAJI.
Re: BJP IS DESTROYED
by subramanyasastry hoskote on May 18, 2009 11:15 PM
if u want to behave like sheep, then there is none who can guide you correctly!
Re: BJP IS DESTROYED
by sabu abraham on May 18, 2009 11:16 PM
Good you are very correct ramankuttyji,I support you,you are welcome to Congress,only congress can build India.jai jai soniaji.
The destiny of india was in limbo for a year after CPI BLACKMAILED govt..now they have been shown the RED card. Lalu tried to MOO down the congress by breast stoking Paswan…he lost all his Bhai CHAARA that went GO Tall Ah!..The Paswan..that is now Past MAN, Paswan. Advani vitriolics on MMS as the weakest was his weakest moment…his opposing ways got him same job again..core competency.MMS is the weakest PM we have seen , -ah, Congress is afraid to elect any other leader as all r ambitious n BELIEVE me…right after 2 yrs …MMS will fall ill and get hospitalized and RAhul will take over….Sonia has mastered Hindi better than Jaya Amma –hindi or Mayawati Tamil…and she is now sensing Queen Mother’s role like UK with Rahul playing Charles…..so we r as much Brit Ruled as much as by the best mafia..not D nor C but Italy…see how before elections Q was freed…Jaya,Maya, and others thought they are great …but no match to the firangi. Indian men were humiliated by the men from occident and by the firang women by accident…Sonia bring an Italian bahu for Rahul or drug a girl from Columbia..Modi and Varun were mistakes and BJP had to commit it….they will now be stronger..All stars shone but only a few out shone…Let us salute the RETURN OF THE DYNASTY…All voters won and lost….what they won..what they lost..no one knows….for the common man- does his life change from here….GOD bless my dear INDIA..J
Re: RETURN OF THE DYNASTY
by mahabodhi on May 18, 2009 11:34 PM
@iyer 80 % Indians live on Rs. 100-per day or less !R u one of them !Ask urself ..........
Re: RETURN OF THE DYNASTY
by JGN on May 18, 2009 11:46 PM
suresh iyer, MMS is the "weakest" PM. He did not even contest for the Lok Sabha election as the Congis were not sure of his victory. He is just "HIS MASTER'S VOICE" That fact will remain for ever, whether said by Advani or any one else.
Decision of L K Advani to continue in politics will only result in fastening the downfall of BJP.Most of the BJP leaders are in their 80s and still dream of coming to power,why can/t they have young blood coming forward?And still Modi calls INC as Budhiya party.He can't see the age of MPs like LK Advani,Kailash Joshi(most incompetent MP from Bhopal),Sumitra Mahajan.Thses people have done nothing for their constituency nor are they leaders of national stature but still BJP keeps on fielding them.
For the BJP to rise again it should bring forward new leaders sans Modi type who have the energy and vision for transformation and for whom development is the priority.Anti-congressism is not a policy which will yield results nor is Hindutava.People want leaders who can provide better governance.
Re: Please retire
by BabuBisleri on May 18, 2009 11:11 PM
yes he shud end up now a retirement is good for him well even rss leaders saying that coming december they wud work for some replacement of advani
Advaniji should give up post of opposition leader in paliament to future leader who will take over party leadership in next general election while remaining his/her mentor. Next general election would be tough task for BJP as congress will have free hand in reforms plus it has secured its future in Rahul/Priyanka. BJP has to come up with matching leaders and produce better alternative before people by next election. If this is not done, defeat in future is also certain.
Re: Advani
by S Shrikanth on May 18, 2009 10:42 PM
Congress will not have free hand on reforms. They have Mamta, an anti reform leader. DMK and others will have their own compulsions.
All that is projected that it is a mandate for a stable Govt is farce. The truth is that UPA has failed to secure simple majority. They will have to depend on some more parties which have ideological differences.
I do not claim that I can never go wrong. But, I feel that majority view need not be correct always. There is an intrinsic flaw in democracy although it may be the least when compared to other forms of governance. So notwithstanding the victory of the CONPARTY led by the foreign born lady, I still think that MMS is the most incompetent of all the PMs we had so far; He is the most selfish and power hungry person but disguised to give a different image; He is as cunning - if not more - than Lallu, Mullah, Maya and Jaya; His means of achieving something are very unethical and immoral (N Deal and the betrayal of the left); The BJP should become like it was during late 80s and early 90s when the treasury benches had to keep their mouth shut when BJP members spoke;
Re: Is majority always right?
by Sukumar Mehta on May 18, 2009 11:10 PM
Whether you like it or not, the results are in favour of Congress and MMS. Singh is King. Go to sleep now.
Re: Re: Is majority always right?
by subramanyasastry hoskote on May 18, 2009 11:13 PM
Singh is NEVER A KING. HE IS ALWAYS "Her majesty's most obedient follower". Anyway, your comment that singh is king is humorous. thanks.
Moment there was surge against tytler Congress removed him. BJP should have sacked Varun when he was found in hatred speech. Tough action is needed by party head. Nobody should take party head for granted. That is the success of congress. BJP leaders take tough stand against indiscipline in party at any level.Rajastan was lost because of the old lady's damage as CM. She should be shown the door.
Re: BJP Lost
by Zaki on May 18, 2009 10:34 PM
The BJP leaders are yet again in denial when they point the finger at Varun. They are deliberately trying to mislead their cadres for the real reason of thier defeat.
Just see the hypocrisy - They say Varun brought them defeat due to his inflammatory words...WORDS...and they are silent on the fact that they have no problem projecting a MASS MURDERER as a PM candidate..sort of..Modi has done for which they are now trying to make Varun a scapegoat..when all he has is said only words..pathetic!
From 2004 they learnt nothing and forgot everything!
I am sure Modi will win once again in Gujarat! But that about it for this war criminal!
The internal campaign against Varun could be a move to eliminate him from future leadership. Nevertheless if a emerging leader like Varun feels that to succeed in a party like BJP he has to become a Modi then surely there is something very wrong with this party.
I am glad the people of India rejected the message of hate!
Re: Re: BJP Lost
by srinivas havaldar on May 18, 2009 11:07 PM
Dear Zaki, why do you think Modi is a mass murderer???
I feel otherwise, I think Manmohan Singh is a mass murderer as he / his government is yet to take action against the lone captured terrorist Ajmal Amir Kasab. One thing that I understand is man (Manmohan Singh) supporting a bad man (Ajmal Amir Kasab) is as bad as bad man (Ajmal Amir Kasab) himself.
Also, don't forget, Afzal Guru is yet to be punished. He was not given any mercey by then President of India Mr. Kalam, but this Congress Govt. has played a vote bank politics and never hanged him.
Congress is back to power and am sure both Afzal Guru and Kasab could be feeling happy as this surely has extended both of thier lives by another 5 years.
To the hell with this terrorist supporting government.
Re: Re: Re: BJP Lost
by mahabodhi on May 18, 2009 11:44 PM
@Ssrikanth whom u voted in 1984 !Honest answer .......RSS played a big role in masscre of sikhs inciting people ...that's why they did not take acrtion against tytler allged to be the Mob inciting and leading mobs --and one thing even in 1984 elections in Delhi RSS man Madan Lal Khurana had posted poster all over Delhi - stating from the biography of Jagdish Tytler ehre he has coonfirmed that he ws born in Sikh -Kappr family and had become orphan and tytler gave him adoption --and asked all people not to vote against Jagdish tytler as he was sikh ...so much for RSS support to Sikhs and Punjab probelm is the creation of RSS and akalis ..or do u know what is Punjab probelm ...... Indian is a vast continent of various faiths and RSS ideolgy can only lead to its destruction ..but that is for people of this great land to decide whether they want to live in peace or always in communla disharmony---this incident of Madan lal Khurana RS BJP candidate is true fact and I challnege all RSS and akalis to prove me wrong if they think it is not tru...this is true .....
Re: Re: Re: Re: BJP Lost
by mahabodhi on May 18, 2009 11:45 PM
@Ssrikanth whom u voted in 1984 !Honest answer .......RSS played a big role in masscre of sikhs inciting people ...that's why they did not take acrtion against tytler allged to be the Mob inciting and leading mobs --and one thing even in 1984 elections in Delhi RSS man Madan Lal Khurana had posted poster all over Delhi - stating from the biography of Jagdish Tytler where he has confirmed that he was born in Sikh -Kapoor family and had become orphan and tytler gave him adoption --and asked all people not to vote against Jagdish tytler as he was sikh ...so much for RSS support to Sikhs and Punjab probelm is the creation of RSS and akalis ..or do u know what is Punjab probelm ...... Indian is a vast continent of various faiths and RSS ideolgy can only lead to its destruction ..but that is for people of this great land to decide whether they want to live in peace or always in communla disharmony---this incident of Madan lal Khurana RS BJP candidate is true fact and I challnege all RSS and akalis to prove me wrong if they think it is not tru...this is true .....
Re: Re: Re: BJP Lost
by Zaki on May 19, 2009 02:12 PM
The burining of the train bogies was done; assuming it was the case then it was a case of people who would be considered criminals, andcertainly fit to be put ot the severity of the law. However what the Gujarat govt. led by Modi did was to target the entire Muslim population throughout Gujarat, using the State machinery. This is the definition of a genocide. Yes! A govt. in independent India committed a genocide and it is accurate to say that Modi is a mass murderer. And more importantly a mass murderer with the consent of other Gujaratis. This cannot be forgotten!
Re: Party and voter base in denial
by S Shrikanth on May 18, 2009 10:49 PM
You do not need to understand this. They have won in MP, Chhattisgarh, Karnataka, HP and Bihar besides Gujarat.
Re: Party and voter base in denial
by BabuBisleri on May 18, 2009 10:52 PM
bjpee lost every where b it gujrat or mp gujrat they got only 1 plus seat as compare to last time, rajsthan supda saaf, mp supda saaf, uttrakhand supda saaf..next assembly election will throw bjpeewallah to gutters.
