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New York
What is fundamentally wrong with Communists?
by New York on May 17, 2009 09:59 AM

* Socialism = Preventing Race to the Bottom
* Capitalism = Promoting Race to the Top

We need both (either implicitly or indirectly) to build and sustain a great nation.

And Communists have NO clue of Capitalism.


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theindialover
Thanks karat
by theindialover on May 17, 2009 09:30 AM

There is nothing better than defeating commies........ I am so happy about that.. trinamool could have gone with BJP though...

But finally Mamta won... But assembly is the big thing. Now lots of money will come her way and she will be able to fight it alone in bengal.

If left looses Bengal...we can enroute communism from India....

Kerala will go to Congress next time...Tripura is nothing.

Thanks Karat by the way. Your dirty tactics helped us clean communism from this country

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Indian
Let's be positive.
by Indian on May 17, 2009 08:55 AM  | Hide replies

I've been reading many anti-Mamta posts in rediff for the last few days. And I find many people speculating negatively. Let us be positive and throw away our prejudice against Mamta and her party for once. Yes she has been chaotic, vociferous and some of her moves may not have resulted into a desirous solution. But all that is part and parcel of Indian politics. All said and done, the LF has done more damage to WB in the past 32 years which they have started to undo only in the last 3-4 years. But to undo the rotten work of 32 years, it will take a minimum of 10 years. This puts the state back (compared to other developing states) by approx 40 years which defies all justification.
TMC and Mamta have also matured over the years and they have roped in good civilians (e.g. Derek O'brien). Therefore we can definitely expect better results from her. Nobody can deny the fact that Mamta is quite straight-forward and above all, not corrupt. In spite of her serving as a full cabinet minister twice in Loksabha and her party's strength growing day by day, her status has remained the same. Her personal choice remained the same. She has carefully decided to remain as one who anyone can approach.
We must, for once, forget our hatred (which has come from our pro-LF thought process carefully engraved into our head by the LF leaders over the last 32 years) towards her and let her do the work she can.

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Indian
Re: Let's be positive.
by Indian on May 17, 2009 09:00 AM
We all, including Mamta and her party members know, that people will vote only those who fulfil their commitments and promises. People of India has shown in this elections that arrogant, divisive politics has to go. The only way candidates can expect to win is by performing. This is a good trend and I'm sure it will continue with the awareness levels going up day by day amongst common people.
Those who stay in the cities may not know the non-performance & regular torture done by the LF cadres (esp CPM cadres) in the rural WB. That's why this verdict must be respected by all and without prejudice. Time has come to be positive and remain.

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Whiteman
TATA on th e verge of perishing
by Whiteman on May 17, 2009 08:45 AM  | Hide replies

Time is ripe for action for the TATA group. Its clear that Tata's advisory board needs to be sacked and Ratan needs to take more decisions with seriou business convictions rather than depend on mere data of the Board. First of all god knows why Ratan went to Singur. Second if he had gone & invested, why didn't he commit, rather than be arrogant. Third, do your work rather than siding up with political parties.The people of India whether they are begalis, gujaratis, south indians or UP'ites are not at the mercy of TATA. Its clear that somone in your group played poltics for which you will have to suffer now. Your loss is now in billions never before in TATA's history. Well it was a booming economy then, but Mr. Tata it doesnt take moment to change time. And now Time is not in your favour. All decisions you have taken with your trusted coterie have boomeranged resulting in massive unprecedented loss. Do not think that by making a 100K Car Tata will have profits. Profits are in premium products not in cheap products. So many wrong decssions like JLR, Corus and now NANO have brought TATA to its feet. Its a billions loss and no one knows the future of TATA. Strong action is awaited unless TATA will perish now. TIME IS A GREAT TEACHER. As an indian I would say Mr. Tata try to trust genuine people.

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Indian
Re: TATA on th e verge of perishing
by Indian on May 17, 2009 09:19 AM
Dear friend, Tata's were not wrong. They went to Singur for doing business which would've generated employment and resulted in overall development for the area. When one invests for business, he doesn't do it for charity. A businessman needs his return on investment. Singur happened to be logistically advantageous which is why it was chosen by the Tatas. Had the State Govt. shown some maturity in handling the acquisition of the land there, it wouldn't have resulted in what we've seen. Therefore, please don't be blind and blame the Tatas. It was also a fault on Mamta Banerjee's part to remain so rigid in working out a solution. Tatas have jusitifiably withdrawn seeing so much resistance at the initial stage itself. If you're a businessman yourself, you'd realise the predicament of the Tatas much better.

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Umashanker Kapoor
Re: TATA on th e verge of perishing
by Umashanker Kapoor on May 17, 2009 08:57 AM
dont worry. one bold man, who challanges the govet every now and then to arrest him, will come to his rescue. the area for the nano plant is cleared and tatas' will regain and become just like the state number one of india. and the shining tata will once again be shining.

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meghdut gorai
The rise of youth power
by meghdut gorai on May 17, 2009 08:35 AM  | Hide replies

Now that CPIM are in goverment and TMC and Congress in lok sabha poll majority. The next 2 years till the assembly elections will be a complete standstill for bengal, like to dooms years for bengal. No development will be possible as each of the two parties will fight for their existence. There will huge violence, political fights. In all a civil war is predictable, a bloody war which will make its copy in history. The Left will fight for its existence and the TMC will not allow as didi loves to sit on roads and starve for a few days. May be the politacal and intellectual mind of the people of bengal which had always shown the way to the world rise again, the youth rise again as been always in history, before independence and the naxal period of 1970's really show what is best. The final or may be the real war is yet to come in 2011. Its is turmtoil time for bengal.

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subramanian rajesh
Re: The rise of youth power
by subramanian rajesh on May 17, 2009 09:19 AM
Hey Samrat, do u stay in Bengal???

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samrat raychaudhuri
Re: The rise of youth power
by samrat raychaudhuri on May 17, 2009 08:38 AM
I agree!Mamata, in all her crazyness will try to push back any development in bengal so that she can come to power by any possible mean!

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Umashanker Kapoor
Re: Re: The rise of youth power
by Umashanker Kapoor on May 17, 2009 08:58 AM
then all the development will go to the state number one of india.

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Sudipta  Ray
It is a great result for us since our childhood.
by Sudipta Ray on May 17, 2009 07:16 AM  | Hide replies

Being a True Bengalee, I am very much proud of our Didi who is a true honest and simple politician, may be compared by our Rahul Gandhi, a true honest and Young politician who also make proud all of us-the young generation. May God should makes a good path,as Our Didi will be the next CM of WB,without fail.>

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reetam
Re: It is a great result for us since our childhood.
by reetam on May 17, 2009 07:40 AM
Didi cannot do anything, there are so many corrupted politicians , didi alone canot able to root them out. Also she is very much whimsical. The win for TMC in Bengal is not for TMC , what I believe people want a stable goverment in Centre and this is main reason of CPMs defeat in Bengal and Kerala. Singur project is a "duswapno"for Bengal,no body cant refuse that. What did mamata for Singur is not at all acceptable. Now didi will be given say Railways in centre, what she will do??? ,she will again resign to be the CM of Bengal. She will start her job to develop Bengal, Do you think, CPM will allow her to do ,No never ,.This all are bloody politicians. The way mamata opposed the Singur Project, the CPM will lunch their own policies 100 times greater what did mamata do in singur to destroy all the initiatives. You will see everything in future...........

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Rajib Sarkar
Re: Re: It is a great result for us since our childhood.
by Rajib Sarkar on May 17, 2009 08:21 AM
You dont know bengal at All and no knowledge of Bengali sentiment...stop commenting of foolish thing... the result in bengal is the opposition wave not for stable govt in center...first try to understand politics..local and central issue.. and the sentiment of common ppl at grass root level..then comment.. TATA left Singur of CPIM wrong policy and senseless industrial policy...NO WHERE IN THE WORLD INDUSTRIALIZATION CAME BY KIILLING FARMERS BY BULLETS...

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reetam
Re: Re: Re: It is a great result for us since our childhood.
by reetam on May 17, 2009 11:15 AM
you seem to a GREAT POLITICIAN who will do lot for the Bengal!!!!!! Do play only the dirty politics , I need not to be understand the poor people like YOU and all, I need not be so called "Dama Dhara "like you. But what I understand , these are the YOU peple who blindly follow others and destroying the whole nation.

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Sajit Kumar
Re: It is a great result for us since our childhood.
by Sajit Kumar on May 17, 2009 08:18 AM
Supported by the unethical media (Anandabazar group mainly) and money from 'unknown' sources, Mamata has been able to stop the industrial process in Bengal completely.. Thanks..

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Rajib Sarkar
Re: Re: It is a great result for us since our childhood.
by Rajib Sarkar on May 17, 2009 08:25 AM
You guys first need to go and see bengal and what we need really industrialization...DO NOT forget these lefts and CPIM stop industrialization for decades..they bring ruthless unions evrywhere..and forced to stop n numbers of industries during last 30 years...and fought against computerization..etc..etc.. TRY to REMEMBER THOSE young man...then comment...

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Indian
Re: Re: Re: It is a great result for us since our childhood.
by Indian on May 17, 2009 09:23 AM
Dear friends, this election has shown signs that people have ultimately started voting for stability and development. I do agree it wasn't 100% correct voting, but I would say 55-60% people voted for these two reasons. Therefore we can look forward to improvement in this figure in the coming elections. No politician can earn his/her bread without working or by terrorising.
Mamata has been voted because people in rural Bengal are fed up of the LF and they need peace and progress. How Mamata will ensure that is her business. If she can, she will reign and if she can't, the same people will vote against her.
Let's just wait and watch instead of speculating.

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bharath jayaram
Re: Re: Re: It is a great result for us since our childhood.
by bharath jayaram on May 17, 2009 08:59 AM
guys,
I guess it is Vote against CPI, not that people voted for TMC .
On articles relating to Singur on rediff, i could see only opposition to mamta. Now that she has won, there are lot of praises for her on this article. quite interesting.


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Sajit Kumar
Re: Re: Re: Re: It is a great result for us since our childhood.
by Sajit Kumar on May 17, 2009 09:08 AM
Tragically, people like Rajib are living in a fools paradise who think Mamata will do better than Jyoti Basu.

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reetam
Re: Re: Re: It is a great result for us since our childhood.
by reetam on May 17, 2009 01:37 PM
I agree with you Mr Rajib that the left has created the goons like citu and all and they had opposed Computerisationand more over they still belive in "Bandh". But I do not understand why and how our beloved Didi has oppossed the Tata Projects in Singur. Tata need 1000 Acres, and want to come here for business, of course that must not be done for the sake of poor farmer's land in Singur. There were lot of ways to satisfy the Farmers , and our beloved didi could have done this . She straight way attacked the Bengal Govt and Tata. " Jami debo na to Debo na , Rakto Ganga Boi e debo, 400 acre chere dik , baki 600 acre Karkhana Koruk." My question, What the farmer will do this 400 acre , will they cultivate there to produce multicrops or they will hand over the land to other promoter to get more money. Ofcourse , Bengal Govt never satisfy those farmer who has lost thier land as the valuation of that land always going up due to the Tata only. Mamata could have demanded more compensation so that the farmers can bye more lands in nearby villages or do someting alternative. Anyway, Mamata has good ideology in mind but never think these Comrades will make her do the best for Bengal. We the ordinary non-political people sometimes really feel soory how these type politicians play only dirty politics for the sake thier own identity.

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Prashant
TMC
by Prashant on May 17, 2009 07:05 AM  | Hide replies

It will be interesting to see when MMS starts the insurance and banking sector reforms, how will Mamta go and take the left on. I do not think Mamta has won by showing a better option rather she has won on an anti industrialization message. It is would be very interesting to see how this plays out. By the time the next assembly elections come around, the left would have exposed Congress and that is when TMC will have a problem. I do not see Mamta getting West Bengal rid of the left. This is the right time for BJP to start building its Cadre in West Bengal. Tapan Sikdar should get busy as BJP can be the real opposition as TMC and Congress are just the B team of the Left.

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Jagadis Bose
Re: TMC
by Jagadis Bose on May 17, 2009 07:27 AM
Your analysis is correct. Mamata played the left card (with the support of the ultra-leftists), and the ruling Left Front had no answer to that. Now without any left opposition in the parliament, the UPA govt will move forward with its rightist economic agenda -- and then fissures will start to shown in the Mahajot.

In any case, paradoxically the politics in West Bengal will now sharply veer even more to the Left and ultimately this will impact on the national scene.

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Rajib Sarkar
Re: Re: TMC
by Rajib Sarkar on May 17, 2009 08:16 AM
you ppl are blind BJP...

Its funny you guys say TMC is B team of left ..POOR VISION...have you ever try to know what Bengal is ????

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Indian
Re: Re: Re: TMC
by Indian on May 17, 2009 09:25 AM
Friends, stop speculating and see what happens.

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rrrrrrrrr fgggg
kick cpim out
by rrrrrrrrr fgggg on May 17, 2009 07:01 AM  | Hide replies

cpim can see it comming now. the majdoor bhais of bengal and their mouth piece - the cpim ruined the greatest state india used to have, while backward states like ap and up shot ahead. i hope mamta can play her cards right this time, and support the comgress at rhe center on condition that they will help tmc kick the cpim out of bengal in 2011.

Ronnie, USA

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indrani ganguly
Re: kick cpim out
by indrani ganguly on May 17, 2009 07:09 AM
Yes, I agree Ronnie. CPM is the most autocratic and hegemonistic party the country has seen. It needs to be banished for ever since they created only problems and did nothing for the state. They filled their own coffers and grabbed absolute power for 32 years in all places and in all fields.

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Ansuman Mukhopadhyay
Re: Re: kick cpim out
by Ansuman Mukhopadhyay on May 17, 2009 08:12 PM
Yes, people of West Bengal voted for the change at last. After a stalled period when Govt really tried to build up industries, it is at that time people voted aginst the Govt and for the force who are and would be responsible for driving the industries out of Bengal and stop any developments. This is definitely good for us and those who live in USA (like Ronnie). We'll never work in Bengal and when we'll retire can live a very good life there since there'll be no industries, thus the standard of living and proces of commodities will be low in Calcutta compared to any cities of India. Thanks to the people of Bengal for taking care of us.

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Rajib Sarkar
Where are those people ???
by Rajib Sarkar on May 17, 2009 05:51 AM  | Hide replies

Where are those people who vowed against TC and Mamata to throw them out after Singur...those poor folks now need to understand it is NOT the Mamta who forced TATA to leave..it is rather CPIM and Buddha babu who were hiding things and trying to bring industry by mussel power by killing poor farmers and forcefully grabing their multi corps productive land for industry without thinking about their consent and benifit...

Poor fool remarkers ..have NO knowledge and understanding of ground reality..Shame those critics never try to comment sitting in AC room..

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dev roy
Re: Where are those people ???
by dev roy on May 17, 2009 06:54 AM
Yes the reality is that CPIM is responsible for this poor condition of bengal. And their game to fool the people in the name of industry in Singur and blaming Mamata has come to an end. People of bengal is ready to give a more befitting reply to CPIM in coming 2011 election.

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