If BJP says all Indians should be governed by the same law it is communal. If it says Terrorism should be crushed it is communal. If it says conversions should be stopped it is communal. If Congress takes the support of MIM Muslim league it is secular. Sikh riots,Qatrochhi,and all the Terrorism blasts should be forgotten. Gujarat riots( which are spontanoeus reaction to the unprovked killings in Sabaramati express)should not be forgotten and the demolition of babri masjid which most muslims never knew it existed before Ram mandir issue came up should not for gotten. If Tamils in Srilanka are getting killed it is SriLanka internal problem. The tamils should feel shame that they voted for a party which sent IPKF to Sri Lanka. It is shame that this party is voted to power. N-deal is sell out to US. There is no benifit the country.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: BJP 'loss
by Imran on May 18, 2009 10:32 AM
''Militancy and gun culture can achieve nothing and only peaceful dialogue among the Indian and Pakistani Governments along with the Kashmiris on both sides can solve the vexed Kashmir problem
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: BJP 'loss
by jave jave on May 18, 2009 10:00 AM
I am muslim, BJP is not a untouchable for me. I want the BJP to grow,be more professional, shake hands BJP, take all of them togeather, then only INDIA can grow.
U lost because of yourself, your policies and by now I guess you also know.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: BJP 'loss
by Imran on May 18, 2009 10:11 AM
Kashmir is diff issue don’t mix it here I want peace in kasmir and govt should do whatever to make that happen
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: BJP 'loss
by ad na on May 18, 2009 10:13 AM
why is kashmir a diff issue??? Hindoos were massacred there just like people were massacred in Gujrat. Why the double standard? Is it because the separatist share your faith? I thought u said Hindus or Muslims u dont care separatist must die hehe.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: BJP 'loss
by ad na on May 18, 2009 10:15 AM
Why not isnt kashmir a part of India and was'nt the genocide in kashmir for real. I thought u said all separatist must die even if they are muslims.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: BJP 'loss
by ad na on May 18, 2009 10:17 AM
aaha so u do care for the kashmiri separatist? I thought they were divisive murderers too just like RSS/VHP. Let me guess you care cause they are Moslem, dont u? ehhehe so much for a secular india.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: BJP 'loss
by ad na on May 18, 2009 10:07 AM
Well then i hope u want the separatist Kashmiri muslims who led a genocide of hindoos to be crushed as well, right?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: BJP 'loss
by ad na on May 18, 2009 10:08 AM
cool so u want separatist divisive kashmiris to die? Am i understanding you correcly, Imran?
Re: Re: Re: Re: BJP 'loss
by Nostrodamus on May 18, 2009 11:16 AM
holocast is approaching..time will tell who will leave which country...all the cental asia will be cleaned with menace called isssllam...
Re: BJP 'loss
by Aditya Rawal on May 18, 2009 12:34 PM
Lets put it in other words... If Varun Gandhi says, he'll chop off hands is not communal but Criminal.. If Advani says, his govt will built ram mandir is Communal, If Modi's men slit open a pregant muslim womans womb post godhra riots is also not Communal but Criminal. If Muthalik pills down pants of girls in Bangalore pub is neither communal nor criminal but Shame to your people, Samjhouta Express blast, Malegaon Blast, Jama Masjid Blast is also not communal, maybe its criminal but I think it is more in the ways of any terrorists... 2 Bajarang Dal activists dies in a shanty while making crude bombs, they were not crude Bombs but Diwali fire crackers... what in the hell do you think people would consider you as Secular....
I deserve credit here I had said the below way back now see ODDVANI is not even OPPOSITION LEADER AHAHAHAH “The BJP does not need "friends"; as most are woolly-eyed and have blurred vision. It needs sincere enemies instead ; because at least they will tell them some home-truths. And one of them is that this election campaign of theirs was doomed to failure from the moment they chose the bicep-triceps building Advani as a PM candidate. Since then it has been an exponential ride downhill. It is time for Kulkarni to do what he should execute brilliantly ; prepare LK Advani's first Leader of the Opposition speech. That is, if he gets there”
Re: GREAT PREDICTION
by Imran on May 18, 2009 09:32 AM
Mr Kulkarni needs to tell his 82-year-old master that this country has moved on to a Nano car and a BMW SUV, where the old rath (chariot) and the never-ending Babri Masjid temple promises make the BJP look like an outdated jalopy on three-wheels and two flat tyres, an anachronism; outdated, fuddy-duddy, morose and insipid. That its white-haired bespectacled paragon of vitriolic venom , Mr Modi, is reduced to cracking infantile stupidities such as budhiya and gudiya, is a sad saga for a party that had once promised to be an alternative option to the Congress.
Re: Re: GREAT PREDICTION
by eva das on May 18, 2009 09:53 AM
Mr Imran... Congress is believed to be secular.. by what means?? through speeches?? what good have they done for the minorities other than simply maintaing strong secular rhetorics?? please open ur eyes, n if u still think Congress has really done smthing worthwhile for the bebefit of our Indian minorities fine, ur support to them is justified.
Re: Re: Re: GREAT PREDICTION
by Aditya Rawal on May 18, 2009 12:43 PM
Right eva, Congress hasnt done anything for the minorities but atleast they dont spew venom on minorities.... BJP had to just keep their mouth shut if they want to suceed in the future.
Re: Re: Re: Re: GREAT PREDICTION
by eva das on May 18, 2009 06:11 PM
U know Aditya, hands that serve are holier than lips that pray.. fact of the matter is, whoever does gud for our ppl ought to be supported.. n my belief, based on facts, is that our ruling party has not done much for our ppl(considering their 50 long yrs of reign), leave alone the minorities..
Re: Re: Re: GREAT PREDICTION
by Imran on May 18, 2009 10:06 AM
I know but atleast they will not harms us even if they dont do any good its better to be safe than sorry.
Re: Re: Re: Re: GREAT PREDICTION
by Gerald DSouza on May 18, 2009 12:33 PM
Perfectly right! Just look at Karnataka where the BJP tasted power for the first time. Their handling of violence against minorities is evident for all to see !
Re: Re: Re: Re: GREAT PREDICTION
by Zameer Deshmukh on May 18, 2009 10:59 AM
Imran,
If that is the case, then Mayawati, Mulayam, Lalu and Left have better record than Congress. Then, why not support them? Congress track record is as bad as BJP...
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: GREAT PREDICTION
by Imran on May 18, 2009 11:06 AM
Need of the hour was a stable govt lalu etc are f@ls they don’t think abt development
Re: Re: Re: Re: GREAT PREDICTION
by rupesh sundhar on May 18, 2009 12:04 PM
Muslims would support congress since they are more favourble to them.
If you are talking about secularism, congress is not a secular party.
Your religion is benefitted from congress hence you are supporting. It is open secret, every body knows about it.
Any how Hinuds are more peace loving religion than any other religion. No doubt about it. not like muslims who blast innocent people and they are cowards.
Re: Re: Re: GREAT PREDICTION
by Imran on May 18, 2009 10:05 AM
I know but atleast they will not harms us even if they dont do any good its better to be safe than sorry. My hero is now Rahul who single handedly demolished bjp it’s a victory for youth of india not muslms or hin@us
Re: Hindutva....
by syed jawahar on May 18, 2009 04:12 PM
what do u mean by hindutva???. People of India slapped every Hindu extremists with their decision but still you are like dog's tail...
Re: Hindutva....
by amritha chaithanya on May 18, 2009 09:44 AM
people who lives on the other side of river sindu which later becme hindu..the meaning of hinduism.. indias backbone is iunity in diversity,selfish people like u will not understand it,learn to love others rather than lovin u'rself
Re: Re: Hindutva....
by Varun on May 18, 2009 12:02 PM
Hindusim is a word coined by the west. But Sanatana Dharma is not. So learn a bit more before you theorize your ignorance.
Re: Re: Hindutva....
by ad na on May 18, 2009 09:52 AM
oh yeah say that to the Taliban when they force you to walk around in a tent. India's backbone is Hindusim, take it out and there is nothing left. If hindusim vanishes India will decent into Iraq like civil war and this way of life is being humiliated and threatened. In your love and obessesion for diversity/unity you might destroy the very reason for its existence.
Re: Re: Re: Hindutva....
by amritha chaithanya on May 18, 2009 09:54 AM
yes british ruled ,mughals ruled and portugheese ruled,they cld easily made india a muslim or a christian country,but it din happnd ?why bcos hinuism is a culture of the people of india irrespective of their religion and no one can destroy this great culture..
Re: Re: Re: Re: Hindutva....
by ad na on May 18, 2009 10:00 AM
hindusim is the culture of the people of India irrespective of religion wow...great line go and this is what Hinduvta is all about but say in public will be branded communal. Get the point.
Re: Hindutva....
by romell captian on May 18, 2009 09:34 AM
SWami Vivekananda did comment on sangies...and the narrow minded idiots like this...." FROGS IN THE POND ".....
Re: Re: Hindutva....
by First Hindu on May 18, 2009 09:43 AM
I am happy that you read Swami Vivekananda...hope you have also read what he said after that...
HINDU culture is the VEDIA culture and it should be implemented in INDIA.
Can you please request RAHUL BABA to implement it? I wonder if he knows anything about it...
So please go to BED or enjoy congiee sychopancy for next 5 yrs.
Re: Re: Re: Hindutva....
by First Hindu on May 18, 2009 09:47 AM
Secondly, Good that you read Swami Vivekananda BAD - that you cannot tally historical dates...and don't know INDIAN history Thirdly - Nehru the great country divider said it (as expected) and not Swami Vivekananda
Where ever it upheld hindutuva,it won Orissa-Khandamal - Kumar Sahu (BJP) won UP-Philibit-VarunJi won Gujarat-Godhra-Again BJP won In other places,where it compromised on idealogy,it didnt do well. This is clearly a indication that BJP should stick to its Hindutuva agenda
Re: BJ should go back to its hindutuva roots
by true tamilan on May 18, 2009 09:11 AM
I cannot agree with u more. bjp need to do some soul searching. They came to power promising Ram mandir. But ended up building roads and telecommunication thinking that people will vote for them based on this.
They need to learn a lesson from congress. Congress has been telling garibi hatao for last 40 years and will do for next 40 years. People still vote for them. Indian voters do not care about development. They care about emotional issues.
Re: Re: BJ should go back to its hindutuva roots
by Varun on May 18, 2009 12:04 PM
Well said. BJP hasn't learned from mistakes. Every loss results in ridiculous analysis.
Re: BJ should go back to its hindutuva roots
by PAPAPIPI on May 18, 2009 09:08 AM
In Khandamal Ashok Sahu lost.Why you Sanghies are again spreading nonsense.
Re: BJ should go back to its hindutuva roots
by romell captian on May 18, 2009 09:35 AM
SWami Vivekananda did comment on sangies...and the narrow minded idiots like this...." FROGS IN THE POND ".....
Re: Re: BJ should go back to its hindutuva roots
by Varun on May 18, 2009 12:04 PM
He actually commented on congies and their friends. You seem to have mistook it for sanghies. Poor chap.
Re: BJ should go back to its hindutuva roots
by aba ullala on May 18, 2009 11:11 AM
Then why did you lose in Faijabad, Ayodhya where you promised to start the beginning of Ram Mandir and Hindutwa. Non-sense and stupidity only
Re: BJ should go back to its hindutuva roots
by Antistupidity on May 18, 2009 09:11 AM
I don't like the BJP - so I hope they go by your thinking because then they will surely lose. Your brand of Hindutva has enough local acceptance to blind you to the fact that at a national level it does not work. You fail to see that Orissa was won by Naveen Patnaik, and in UP the BJP was a poor performer overall. Even in Gujarat, you still lost several seats to the Congress.
You need another Vajpayee if BJP is to succeed at a pan-India level....
Re: BJ should go back to its hindutuva roots
by Aftab on May 18, 2009 09:44 AM
Correct yourself-- Kumar Sahu lost. I fully agree with you. BJP should continue to preach hard Hindutva line to keep congress in power.
I always thought 10 Years back when Atal Ji lost the elections. They were still in the Idea of having small parties and come to power. It was a short term solution not a long term perspective.
They should have thought of Strengthning BJP as a National Party and take small parties if they want to be along with them convert them to their parties.
In Karnataka we need to be careful i believe Yediyurappa is sligthly arrogant. He needs to be naive and calm collective. Should worry about development and continue for the next elections.
Also people might change the party stand and go back to Congress so be aware of all these.
Re: BJP should come up with Brand Building
by Varun on May 18, 2009 12:06 PM
Atalji is one reason for the bad state of BJP. He did not use the 5 years to fix congies and the biased media once and for all. Instead he played statesman and was taken for a ride by the media backed by pseudo seculars.
Re: India will become an islamic nation sooner
by syed jawahar on May 18, 2009 03:57 PM
that will be good for the nation if everyone follows God's religion instead of worhsipping stones/humans!!. Whats wrong in that u tamil??