THE ANTI DMK VOTE WAS SPLIT BETWEEN ADMK, DMDK AND BJP ALLIANCES. THIS ELECTION WILL LEAD TO REALIGNMENT OF POLITICAL FORCES IN TN. I SOMETIMES GET THE FEELING THAT THE MARAN FAMILY IS SPONSORING VIJAYAKANTH WITH HUGE SUMS OF MONEY - TO KEEP THE DMK IN POWER. OTHERWISE, HOW IS VIJAYKANTH KEEPING HIS PARTY ALIVE?
JJ has lost out in capitalizing on any anti incumbency,partly because of DMDK.But the TN results don't make sense.In Tirupur,Aiadmk wins well.In Pollachi AIADMk wins well.But in Namakkal AIADMK loses badly.What goes on? Krishnagiri,Dharmapuri,TVMAlai have all thrown out PMK.That can be understood,but not the peculiarity of AIADMK winning well in some places and losing badly elsewhere.Funny result with no pattern?Resentment only against Congress perhaps. JJ did a huge strategic blunder in moving away from Cong in 2004.She can never get back lost ground from thereon unless she devises a brand new approach of linking with DMDK and sharing power.
It is learnt from news channels Alagiri,Kanimozhi and Dayanidhi Maran are to be in the Union Cabinet.Will there be others from DMk in the Union Cabinet?
Re: Re:Alagiri,Kanimozhi and Maran to be in Union Cabinet,any oth
by Classic on May 16, 2009 11:10 PM
Jayalaitha has no issues otherwise entire family will be in the cabinet
Re: Re:Alagiri,Kanimozhi and Maran to be in Union Cabinet,any oth
by White Tiger on May 16, 2009 09:09 PM
I will be happy, if we get Road and transport, Railway ministry..
The Hindu Editor N.Ram was awarded Srilanka Ratna Award for his great services of treachery . Now Cho will get get from Raja Pakasa.
NDTV-Hindu channel will be official for Raja Pakasa to spread his messages and to liaison the politicians and officials.
Many did not like DMK's position, but can not hate it. All hate Sonia and her devils. DMK is forced to make cong win. EVKS Elangovan and other cong ministers are popular, but they lost. Why cho say differently? Is it to please Raja Pakasa for Ratna Award?
Re: really dont know.
by White Tiger on May 16, 2009 09:13 PM
How many are hearing the analysis of Cho? Answer -Only CNN-IBN How many are reading his "Tuglaq" magazine? Ans - only god knows..
Cho is a Jalra (free trumphet) of JJ.. His era of Political analysis is over..
He is like the PMK. Does not have principle but sticks to the winning side. His sence of TN politics in this review shows his lack of publick understanding.
People of TN did not vote against Congress or Sonia. They voted for UPA. Cho is a chameleon. He is anti Tamil and Brahminical in his attitude. Karuna is the undisputed leader of TN. He has won three elections in a row, which Jaya can never do.
Re: why TN voted
by Chelvarajan Sethukavalar on May 16, 2009 07:40 PM
Just curious why cant you be pro Tamil and Brahminical too. Brahmins from hailing from other states like their own ethnicity and language and are Brahminical too. I find this strange that only that many South Indian Tamil Brahmins are against their own ethnicity and language to be Brahminical. This doesn not make sense as Iam from Jaffna and the Jaffan Brahmins are quite Brahminical too but not anti Tamil but pro Tamil. So I find this phenomena very strange that you are aginst your own people language and ethnicty to be Brahminical.
Re: Re: why TN voted
by White Tiger on May 16, 2009 07:50 PM
Brahmins are Aryans.. We are dravidians.. These Brahmins (Aryans) inserted the evil Caste system to the society..
We will vote only for Dravidian parties (Anti Brahmin) parties..
I have strong belief on Periyar Principles.. All dravidian parties are based on Periyar priniciples.. their core policy is anti-brahmins..
Re: Re: Re: why TN voted
by Chelvarajan Sethukavalar on May 16, 2009 08:06 PM
This argument is also equaly silly. Stating that only the Brahmins amomngst the Tamils are Aryans and the rest of the Tamils are Dravidians. So can you explain to me as how many Tamil Brahmins are veryt dark and millions of non Bahmin Tamils are light skinned? Your simplictic race theories should be put in a dust bin. Most modern day Tamils are a mixture of many people and races. Although they have retained many of the old Dravidian cuture and lingusitic traditions. They still are mixture of many people. Although predominantly Dravidian there is quite a lot of Aryan, Arab , Greek, Roman, Veddoid , Australoid and Negroid blood mixed in them. DO you know that many tribal villages in Tamil Nadu have traces of the Australoid Gene markers in them. These was whenman migrated from Africa to Australia. Many upper amd middle caste Tamils are either Dravidian or Aryo/Dravidian in blood and yo can see it their feartures. Even if tghey are Dark. Many Low/Shceduled and tribal people in Tamil Nadu are Darvido/ Australod or Darvido / Veddoid or Dravido/ Negroid or Australoid or Veddoid. Thi sis the truth and the reality. Speaking a Dravidian language does not mean you are Dravidian by race nor speaking an Aryan language does not mean you are an Aryan. A ruler can come and impose their language on to yo u. We all use English in this forum. SO are we English? FOr your information the Pallavas are thought to be an Iranian people who adopted Tamil and Tamil customs. Aryan/Dravidian or mixed we
Re: Re: Re: Re: why TN voted
by Chelvarajan Sethukavalar on May 16, 2009 08:19 PM
sorry whether we are Aryan Dravidian ,Negroid. AUstraloid or Veddoid or various mixtures of combination of all these races. We have al lived in this land for thousands of years and spoken Tamil and formed a comon history. cuture and bond and have heavily intermarried inot each other too. So we are basically one people with a shared history language and culture, which binds us uniqule to each other. SO hating another Tamil because of perceived racial origins or hating your own language and Culture thinking that you are aN Aryan and have to Brahminical is silly. You are being silly and they are being silly. If Periyar spok eof al this racist bigotry Iam sorry he is also silly. This sort of infighting amongst us Tamils is not going to help any Tamil. We Eelam Tamils have become the biggest loosers because of this bickering amongst the South Indian Tamils and the Sinhalese have used this to their advantage. I think if you had faced genocide and ethnic cleansing like us these sort of bickering would never have occured. When your own fellow Tamils are dy8ing in their thousands. Many SOuthIndian tamils are only thinking of trvial issues as which Tamil is of Aryan or Dravidian background and who wants to be more Brahminical or a Periyar follower. Modern English dont fight amongst themsleves stating who is a NOrman or who is a Saxon. Telgus, Kanndigas and Malayless are not squabling amoingst themsleves about this. Go get a life
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: why TN voted
by White Tiger on May 16, 2009 09:04 PM
I dont want you hurt you in replying again and again(because you are sri lankan tamil). I would be happy if peace comes in Sri Lanka and innocent lives are saved..
P.S. Pls dont give lecturing on brahmins. Brahmins are people who inserted the evil caste system.. I hate caste systems and also hate those who inserted them..
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: why TN voted
by White Tiger on May 16, 2009 09:05 PM
I dont want to hurt you in replying again and again(because you are sri lankan tamil). I would be happy if peace comes in Sri Lanka and innocent lives are saved..
P.S. Pls dont give lecturing on brahmins. Brahmins are people who inserted the evil caste system.. I hate caste systems and also hate those who inserted them..
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: why TN voted
by Chelvarajan Sethukavalar on May 17, 2009 09:57 AM
thank you very much for your concern about us. If course you must fight against caste and religious intolerance. However remeber by doing that do not turn yourslef into the opressor, then there is no difference between you and them. Remeber lots of tehse Tamil Brahmins are very poor and are living a marginal existence and are in no way able to opress anyone. There are as Tamil as us and are our own Tamil brothers and sisters and we must not show hatred or anger against them . I jaust wanted to teel you that racisal issues are not clear cut and that simple. We are all basically mixtrues with one racial strain predominating. ALso remember for every Cho Subramania Swamy Jaylalitha and HIndu Ram there are many Kanal Hassans Bharathiyars and C V Ramans hweo had loved Tamil, Tamil people and Tamil culture. Not oanly Tamil Brahmins betrayed the Tamils many other non Brahmins Tamisl also betrayed them. Justr look at Chidambaram Elangovan and in Eelam Karuna Pillyan, Doouglas Devenanda ,Anandasangaree, Varatharajah Prummal and the late Luksham Kathigammar. They are not Brahmnins but belong to other Tamil commuinities. So do we abusse their communities too. As a Sri Lankan Tamil Iam fully aware of the damage done to us the Eelam Tamils by many SOuth Indian Tamil Brahmins. Even at this forum I have seen their comments and have been abused by them. So I can understand your anger anbd bitterness. This may be due to various reasons they may be biter over what happened to them in the 1960s
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: why TN voted
by Chelvarajan Sethukavalar on May 17, 2009 10:07 AM
or they may be believin ginthis stupid Aryan theiry that they are oure Aryans and teh rest of the Tamils are Dravidians( this is unture) If they are that is their problem you dont become bitter, Ultimately they will learn a bitter lesson as to a non Tamil we are all Tamils irrespective of whether we are white or black AryanDravidian veddoid or from Mars. Jsut like to me any Sinhalese Malyalee Kannda or people pfhter ethnicities are the same. I dont differentiate if they are light skinned dark Skinnsed HIndu CHristian or Muslim. So the sams thing happens to them too. When the Kanndigas started to assault Tamils in Bangalor di dthey distinguish these Tamil Brahmins from the other Tamils and stare oh you are largely light skinned Aryans so we will not assaoul but assault all the other Tamils. No did not. So they wil lsoon realise that their future and fate is in Tamil Nadu and they as much as Tamil as the other Tamils and being anti Tamil and working agiasnt their fellwo Tamils is not going to work but wil only greatly harm them and alienathe them from their fellow Tamils. It is also our duty to treat them as fellow Tamisl and not illtreat them and discriminate and make fun of them . Remeber more than you we Eelam Tamils ( including the Jaffan Brahmins) have suffered immensly because of their actions. As for us the Eelam Tamisl only god can sve us now. After the LTTE defeat,unless teh international commnity interferes we wil be now treated as slaves and our land plundered.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: why TN voted
by Sam on May 16, 2009 08:56 PM
I fully agree all your points . BUT when you see people of A same group like CHO, Swamy, Hindu Ram. join hands in Anti-Tamil activities how do you classify them.
You can't say similar criticism against any other Tamil communities. What do you say for that ???
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: why TN voted
by Jagadeesan R on May 16, 2009 09:29 PM
Well, there are still a few people out there who speak the truth and have the mental strength to accept ANY truth, unlike you. Do you want them too to be corrupt,tribal, violent, thuggish, wicked, slimy, hyperemotional cry-babies like others, reciting poetry and talking long sentences in loops that contradict each other and mean nothing. Truth is bitter and BLUNT! Do you have the strength to accept it ? FYI There are still many people out there who would favour executing a person for a serious crime EVEN if it were their own father. REAL ethical people.
Re: Re: Re: why TN voted
by Balaji Venkataraman on May 16, 2009 10:15 PM
I am a brahmin and I am pro Tamil EElam and Pro Tamil. Your logic does not make sense. The people who practice rettai tamlar are not brahmins, these are the MBCs and BCs.xbcs are more brahmanical than brahmins. We need to work hard towards liberating the dalits from the MBCs and the BCs. Brahmins todays are not even a force to reckon and their prejudices do not even matter in today's social setup. People who benefit from reservations the most are also MBCs and BCs and not Dalits who were the real victims in yester decades. While I like Periyar, I think he just used Brahmins to consolidate the rest of TN. That is where he is not Gandhi. Because he was not inclusive.
MK's strategy to make DMDK go it alone was brilliant.If DMDK votes were all anti Govt he clearly made it good for DMK.So unless JJ does an alliance with him for Assembly from now,DMK will be back with Cong.Cong will not let go of DMK anymore as they are set at DElhi.So it is curtainds for JJ unless she moves fast for the Assembly elections to either get the Cong or the DMDK.PMk has got blown in this election,but may do better in Assembly.But basically DMDK is now a factor.
