If bjp wants to make any comeback, they shud go to their basics. Ram temple and hindutva is what brought them to power. They though building roads and putting cell phones in people's hands will get them power.
Congress has been ruling India with garibi hatao for 40 years. India still has 80% people with
Re: BJP needs a makeover
by true tamilan on May 16, 2009 11:38 PM
buy some tv media channels also. Day and night, congress propaganda is going on in 3 news channels. Hope bjp learns from this election and replace L Ganesan in TN with some other leader.
Re: Good bye Hindoos
by JGN on May 16, 2009 10:48 PM
ad na, we have survived the onslaught of 1slamic invaders and European Christiian colonizers for nearly 900 years. Still majority in India are following the native Re1igions. That itself shows the inherent strength of our Culture. These neo-cannot can f00l a few but they cannot subjugate us so easily.
Re: Re: Good bye Hindoos
by Vivek Dev on May 16, 2009 10:53 PM
things are quite different now. Minorities have powerful backers, cash and power, plus it their rule through proxy.If you have survived so far does not really guarantee future survival,
Re: Re: Good bye Hindoos
by jawed on May 16, 2009 11:04 PM
Wrong - This country belongs to everyone ..Hindus / Muslims / Chritians / Sikhs ..and as Indians we have similar inspirations .. Peace , Justice and Growth ..This is victory of India over hate mongerers
Re: Re: Re: Good bye Hindoos
by ad na on May 16, 2009 11:06 PM
Agreed Jawed it belongs to everyone then should'nt we have uniform civil code which means one law for everyone irrespective of caste, religion or whatever. Do you agree?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Good bye Hindoos
by D agrawal on May 16, 2009 11:12 PM
u r absolutely right, the day shall come when there is no discrimination on the lines of religion or cast. There shall prevail a similar law for all. I am not against any community, but of course I am against of appeasement which allows the articles like 370 to exist.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Good bye Hindoos
by jawed on May 16, 2009 11:11 PM
I have no issues in having one code for everyone as long as it is done in consultation and good faith ..but there will be lot of challenges because of diverse nature of India .. UCC is not going to solve all the problems ..the real problem of India is the large population of extremely poor people who have been left behind and are living in abject poverty .. The Congress and Bjp rule has not changed their plight ..they continue to suffer
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Good bye Hindoos
by ad na on May 16, 2009 11:20 PM
Why would not one law create good faith. A law which is the same for everyone will lead to social justice and equality and more importantly it will show evryone that country/law is above everything else.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Good bye Hindoos
by ad na on May 16, 2009 11:24 PM
I agree with you again, Congress or BJP they have not solved the problem of poverty. I wonder why people are so happy about the congress win. Congress ain't goona pay your bills.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Good bye Hindoos
by ad na on May 16, 2009 11:12 PM
lol thought so no reply from Jawed Bhai. Lets see Jawed how about shariah, should it be implemented in India?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Good bye Hindoos
by rajeev nair on May 16, 2009 11:06 PM
Well...This attitude made u guys wondering what to do next.. still barking ...
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Good bye Hindoos
by rajeev nair on May 16, 2009 11:42 PM
Well, JGN... U guys have a typical problem ( Same disease with Advani too).. Can only give abuses, never could take it.. Now that u guys dont have any jo to do, go consult a good physician..
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Good bye Hindoos
by JGN on May 16, 2009 11:37 PM
rajeev nair, you are only good at abusing others. I envy your parents for giving you such a nice culture.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Good bye Hindoos
by JGN on May 16, 2009 11:07 PM
I have suggested to you what to do. Go to Ponnani and wear a cap. That would be better for you.
Re: Re: Good bye Hindoos
by ad na on May 16, 2009 11:01 PM
You are right we have survived not flourished. We will limp on at best and continue to be humiliated. If you want proof just read how freely some bloggers denigrate hinduism and such people will only be emboldened by this verdict.
Re: Good bye Hindoos
by jawed on May 16, 2009 11:03 PM
Wrong - This country belongs to everyone ..Hindus / Muslims / Chritians / Sikhs ..and as Indians we have similar inspirations .. Peace , Justice and Growth ..This is victory of India over hate mongerers
Re: Re: Good bye Hindoos
by JGN on May 16, 2009 11:08 PM
The why the Hon. PM tell us that "minorities have first right over the resources of our Country"?? Are others step-children??
Re: Re: Re: Good bye Hindoos
by jawed on May 16, 2009 11:21 PM
And how many jobs did he give to Moslims after making that statement ?? What "resources: did Moslim get ?? Bank Loans ?? Free education ?? He himself clarified that statement later which you chose to ignore
Re: Re: Re: Re: Good bye Hindoos
by JGN on May 16, 2009 11:38 PM
Yes, there are special loans (at as low as 3%) for minorities and also educational loans, pension for mad_rassa teachers, etc aimed at only Mus1ims.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Good bye Hindoos
by jawed on May 16, 2009 11:52 PM
Hey do let me know where Muslims are getting loan at 3 % ..ICICI is ripping me apart :)
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Good bye Hindoos
by JGN on May 16, 2009 11:57 PM
Go to the web of GOI and search for specail loans for minorities. You will get the info. The rate of interest is 3% or 4% only (not more than that).
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Good bye Hindoos
by jawed on May 16, 2009 11:49 PM
Just go to bank and say that you are a Muslim and see if they give you loan .. 90 % chances it will get turned down ..
loans 3 % ?? That must be breaking news ..just flashed on RSS bulletin board ..take reality pill JGN
Re: Re: Re: Good bye Hindoos
by jawed on May 16, 2009 11:20 PM
And how many jobs did he give to Muslims after making that statement ?? What "resources: did Muslim get ?? Bank Loans ?? Free education ?? He himself clarified that statement later which you chose to ignore
Well well hindoos you deserve step motherly treatement in Hindustan because thats what we choose. With such attitude i am sure we will shrink and go into extinction soon. Well choices are clear Islam or Christanity, take your pick.
It is silly to say that Varun Gandhi's speech has backfired on BJP. The Muslims in any case will not vote for the BJP. In fact Varun has showed the way forward for the BJP. The BJP must shed its uneasiness in being called as a Hindu nationalist party and follow Varun's example if it really wants to win the next elections.
It is not the Muslim vote the cause of the defeat of Bharatia Jenocide Party. Mejority sensible Hindus voted agaist this hindutwa for dividing the people. It is this bjp which creates communal riots and create muslim terrorists. India need patritic leaders who can unite the people and lead the country to development. Major share of black money is in the hands of bjp supporters and this bjp govt started selling the public limited companies to private hands and started looting money. inorder to cover this they ceate communal riots and kill innocent people.
Re: BJP a terrorist organization
by JGN on May 16, 2009 10:27 PM
Vishwa Nath, the ethnic cleansing of Kashmiri Pandits took place in 1989. That was long before BJP came into the scene.
Re: Re: BJP a terrorist organization
by jawed on May 16, 2009 10:39 PM
JGN - Brahmins like you need to introspect . BJP is essentially Brahmin Janata Party .. Arun Jaitley , Sushma Swaraj , Murli Joshi , sudheendra kulkarni , Tarun Vijay , Brajesh Mishra , Vajpayee , late Pramod Mahajan are all Brahmins ..and they are dividing the society .. Rajnath Singh , Prithvi Raj chauhan , raman singh again are upper caste ..
They are using Muslim Bashing as pretext to continue their Brahmin Hegemony and fooling everyone .. I love Brahmins but they need to understand that the hate politics will not yield long term returns ..
Re: Re: Re: BJP a terrorist organization
by JGN on May 16, 2009 10:42 PM
jawed, first of all I am not a Brahmin nor do I support BJP or Modi.
What about the drama over giving just about 100 acres of land for temporary use for the Amarnath pilgrims?? Was that also due to "brahmins"???? You want Shariah in Kashmir but you want "sickularism" in rest of India. Isn't it??
Re: Re: Re: Re: BJP a terrorist organization
by rajeev nair on May 16, 2009 10:53 PM
When u lost, u are not a supporter of BJP & Modi overnite... Well done JGN... You have a great future...
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: BJP a terrorist organization
by JGN on May 16, 2009 10:56 PM
rajeev nair, where did I write anything supporting them? Of course I do not hate them either as they are blamed for no reason.
Re: Re: Re: Re: BJP a terrorist organization
by ad na on May 16, 2009 10:46 PM
Secularism means uniform civil code but nooooo talaq talaq talaq means divorce so much for secularism.
Re: Re: Re: Re: BJP a terrorist organization
by jawed on May 16, 2009 10:49 PM
WOW ..another chamaleon move by JGN ..after singing praises of hate based politics of BJP through out the forum all along ..you now have a change of heart .. 100 acres of land - that is poltics and dirty politics ..and just in case your hate filled mind did not notice ..the separatist leader Sajjad Lone lost badly in Kashmir .. just goes to show what an ordinary Kashmiri wants ..peace and harmony..and no Muslim is shedding tears over the loss of the separatist leader ..unlike you who is whining over the loss of Party that supports fascism like you .
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: BJP a terrorist organization
by ad na on May 16, 2009 11:04 PM
Jawes if you champion secularism then i am hoping u will agree that we need uniform civil code.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: BJP a terrorist organization
by Vishy on May 16, 2009 11:06 PM
People like you are glibly talking of secularism.Does it mean special privileges?Is there secularism in Pak,B'desh or in any other of the 52 odd muslim countries? Not only are Hindus second class citizens in those countries and also in their own motherland, due to the conspiracy of the so-called seculars.That's the paradox of India.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: BJP a terrorist organization
by JGN on May 16, 2009 10:52 PM
jawed, keep your skewed logic for yourself and your ilk. The world has woken up to the dangers of 1slamic terrorism.
Re: BJP a terrorist organization
by Vishy on May 16, 2009 11:04 PM
It is fools like you who succumb to the so-called secular propaganda by christist-funded Media and parties.It is becos these parties are allowing them to onvert people and indulge in ani-national activities.
Re: BJP a terrorist organization
by trollll on May 16, 2009 10:22 PM
Guess what BJP supporters are now becoming anti-India and praying for a miserable future for India
well, that's the type of so called "nationalists" that RSS produces
Re: Re: BJP a terrorist organization
by ad na on May 16, 2009 10:39 PM
i support RSS but i like MMS because he is honest and a good man. WHat i do not like is an Italian being treated as super woman. If this is anti national thinking then so be it.
Re: Re: BJP a terrorist organization
by jawed on May 16, 2009 10:43 PM
FYI - RSS was hobnobbing with Britishers even at the time of Independent Struggle ..Just check how many times Vajpayee went to prison .. Hate based politics is their hall mark
Re: Re: Re: BJP a terrorist organization
by JGN on May 16, 2009 10:45 PM
jawed, pl don't go back much. The hate based politics started with Lucknow Pact of 1916. RSS was founded in 1925 only. You have already taken 1/3 of the Coutry for yourself. Now at least give some breathing space to others.
Re: Re: Re: Re: BJP a terrorist organization
by jawed on May 16, 2009 10:57 PM
Yawn .. I had no control over the games played by Jinnah , Nehru and company .. I don't know whether you had any control either ..
1/3 rd ?? Please check the facts again and direct this question to people who were responsible for it ... Ordinary Hindu and Muslim as far as I know had no control over the unfortunate partition of India .. the fact that majority of Muslims preferred to stay back ..clearly indicates what the majority of Muslims stood for .. Talking of breathing space ..after controlling 80 % of polity and bureacuracy , govt services in India when your population is less than 5 %..do Brahmins like you want more breathing space ?? Again ..no disrespect to fair minded Brahmins ..it is the fascists and hegemonists among them that India has issues with him who divide societies and spread hatred
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: BJP a terrorist organization
by JGN on May 16, 2009 11:05 PM
So Syed Sahabuddin had no role in inflaming passion over Babri Masjid issue?? Rajiv Gandhi had no role in opening the gates of the disputed structure? Had he no role in reversing the SC judgement in Shah Bano case???
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: BJP a terrorist organization
by jawed on May 16, 2009 11:25 PM
And where is Syed Shahubuddin now ?? Muslims saw through his game and dumped him ..he leads a lonely life ..But you made heroes out of Advani , Modi and others
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: BJP a terrorist organization
by jawed on May 16, 2009 11:27 PM
Moslims saw through the hypocrisy of Syed Shahabuddin and dumped him long back ..he leads a lonely life now .. But fascists like you turned Advani , Modi , Varun and others into heroes
If you adopt a snake as a pet, it is bound to bite one day I think the BJP should forget about the hindu card ,the ram temple and work for the development of the country because a strong opposition is good for the country
Fools like JGN thought that rediff forum actually represent India and the shameless khaki chaddiwalas are back in the forums licing their wounds and still barking for more. Dont worry you cry babies, bent down and take it... And cry louder and louder u dumbos....
Re: Knickerwallas
by trollll on May 16, 2009 10:26 PM
Guess what BJP supporters are now becoming anti-India and praying for a miserable future for India
well, that's the type of so called "nationalists" that RSS produces
Re: Re: Knickerwallas
by Public Voice on May 16, 2009 11:50 PM
Do you really think anybody needs to do that? Congress as far as I know the history has never took interest in nation building. All they did is divide and rule. They will continue to do so and common people will still live in shitty cities, poor will die from hunger, masses will be killed in bomb blasts...things will go on.....and you people will continue here. Somebody said third class people in a third class country selected third class party to rule them...though a harsh but how true was the comment.
Re: Knickerwallas
by JGN on May 16, 2009 10:29 PM
rajeev nair, don't think this is a victory of "secular" parties. The Churches had issued dime-a-dozen Pastoral Letters against the duly elected Govt of Kerala and had also asked specifically not to vote for "non-believers"!! And of courseCongi's prime ally in Kerla, Mus1im League is most "sickular" party in India.
Re: Re: Knickerwallas
by rajeev nair on May 16, 2009 10:55 PM
two hoots for secularism.. For me, the nauseating arrogant Khaki knicker wallas should get finished.. If congress wins or anybody else wins I dont care...
Re: Re: Re: Knickerwallas
by JGN on May 16, 2009 10:59 PM
Go to Ponnani and wear a cap (if you are still not a mus1im using h1ndu name). That would be better for you.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Knickerwallas
by rajeev nair on May 16, 2009 11:07 PM
Well.. that attitude costed u a golden oppurtinity of getting the power u khaki knicker wallah... Still barking at the moon... Amazing guy u r ...
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Knickerwallas
by rajeev nair on May 16, 2009 11:34 PM
Either they go back to hindutva or not, they are decimated and if they start raising their head, will get a gentle knock from Congies.. u know like the children gets small punishments from the elders ( a small knock on head) and u guys need only that now... will dig ur head again and will die eventually...
