Re: Winner in the 20009 elections
by AswathaKumar K on May 15, 2009 10:34 AM
Mr Karanam Rao may be right. Congress if exists in 20009 (not 2009) may win as per Mr Rao's wish.
Re: Why can't science predict the result?
by Tanveerahmed yargatti on May 14, 2009 10:50 PM
IF EVERYTHING IS PREDICTED BY MAN BECOMES CORRECT - THAN MAN WILL BECOME GOD - SO BETTER MAN ALWAYS FAILS & GOD WINS
Re: Re: Why can't science predict the result?
by sharad tiwari on May 14, 2009 11:27 PM
Exactly! There is limit for everything...after all we are humen being and not the God.
Re: Why can't science predict the result?
by Indian Citizen on May 15, 2009 11:38 AM
Science is based on measurements and its conclusions or for theoreticians it is based on certain ssumptions: a calculation which tries to predict. Here too, if artificial intelligence softwares are developed which takes care of the parameters affecting the voting, including the temperature of the day and mood of the society, it might predict the results quite close. For your information, people are able to predict and simulate the Share Market trend using such softwares, Prediction of climate and rain behaviour and even trying for the future long term prediction of Earth Quake also. The last they have not succeeded. Science is also trying to perfect but it has a sound basis which I feel is missing in Astrology. I may not be fully aware too about it.
Re: Why can't science predict the result?
by Pratham on May 15, 2009 01:51 AM
Only astrology claims that it can predict. Science clearly knows what could be predicted and what not. Eg. science does not predict many things, it does not predict what happens to you tomorrow, or vegetable prices tomorrow or many such things.
Astrology BLUFFS that it can predict anything, where in reality it CANNOT
Re: Re: Why can't science predict the result?
by roodra on May 15, 2009 02:34 AM
Your so called news channels predictions/exit polls goes wrong so does it mean those should be shut down , astrology only claims they can predict but they don't say that this will be the real figure , also don't misguide by fake astrologers , their are real astrologers too same their are fake doctors and real doctors even though both have same degree all the doctors can't cure ,,, similarly in this basis all the doctors/hospitals should be closed
Re: Why can't science predict the result?
by Sonia Gandhi on May 15, 2009 01:16 AM
Since Science does not make tall claims of predicting the future, your comparison is illogical.
NGO is trying to say that astrologers claims thay can predict the future but in fact they can not.
Only a devil possesed will predict accurately by
Glynus Miranda on May 14, 2009 10:15 PM | Hide replies | Hide message
Very interesting article. I am dead against astrology ,palmistry and other unscrupolous philosophy .So dont consider me as anti Hindu. I am a rationalist and a mechanical engineer and I dont believe that railway runs on mystical powers of some ghost. If you consider me as anti hindu it is not my fault. Astrology and palmistry is not science but a business. Ayurveda, Yogasana and Pranayama are scientific. but Astrology and palmistry are fairy tales of some unscrupolous people. Our politicians are fools to trust them
Borkha and nidhi can win by this prediction. Very rarely found in indian reporters history like these. Discussion over OBAMA, Slam dog dwelers should be held and highlighted frequently in ndtv. In the discussion if anybody say different- say why not Indira gandhiji, sardar vallabhbhai patel, Dr. Bidhan roy(ex CM of W bengal) interupt her or him, suppress him or her, take away loud speaker from him or her. very nice and enjoyable viewing NDTV program
Re: CONGRESS (Children of Nehru Gandhi Ruin Every Single State)
by Sober Bhai on May 14, 2009 07:52 PM
congress ruin the states but the bjp(bharath jalao party) burn our bharath, is it currect.
Can you predict how much Mom love you in numerics or in a measured (scientific) way? Can you predict how much God exists in this universe, in a measured (scientific) way? How much is trust? How much is disgust? Yet we all believe and exercise above. Mr. Prabir Ghosh, chief of the Science and Rationalists Association of India seems to be a cynical about astrology, which is ok to the extant that he should have a complete knowledge before taking such expedition trip to disprove something that has a strong hold. While astrology stands on its own, Mr. Gosh should read, the history starts from the Galileo (spell) if not before. I am not defending current Pundits or self-made astrologers of India but the attempt of Mr. Gosh is as hallo as pundits astrological clams. It is pity that in India, valuable knowledge of Veda is being misused by variety of ways resulting people like Mr. Gosh attempting to discredit the very fundamentals of it. What about the exact calculation of time, the split of time in nano to femto seconds (pal, vipal, kala etc.), the time of earth and other stars moments which is being accepted (yet reluctantly) by western scientists including NASA. Does that make Indian astrology fake?
Is love scientific and the presence of God in every (except communists) Human mind is scientific? The expressions of world are a rational thing not a scientific. No prediction (astrological or scientific) can be expressed in words. Otherwise, the expression of Einstein on Nuclear disa
Re: Predict Lok Sabha results and win Rs 25 lakh!
by John on May 14, 2009 06:48 PM
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No prediction (astrological or scientific) can be expressed in words. Otherwise, the expression of Einstein on Nuclear disaster would be been understood before the blunder of Hiroshima. Human mind designate what is scientific and what is unscientific. Universally (mind that universally is a given name but humans and the correct meaning is; by many peoples) accepted facts are scientific. Prediction cannot be scientific and because of prediction, you cannot disprove Astrology. People love predictions (including Mr. Gosh) because they appeal, pleases/displeases, and satisfies your senses.
See this; I am not astrologer but predict that the world will continue and advance in own way. I predict that their will be a prime minister of India very soon. Both statements are unscientific yet accepted and true for many.
Re: Re: Predict Lok Sabha results and win Rs 25 lakh!
by Jay on May 14, 2009 07:18 PM
The rationalists, like may others, accept only what the western world approves of. I do not blame them as whatever has been intuitively stated by persons with super conscious brains can not be understood by all. The case of Ayurveda, Yoga, Music Therapy, Aroma Therapy etc are classic examples, where until western world accepted these people opposed the effectiveness. Same is the case with the precision of use of Sanskrit as an intermediate language in translators, our own scientists do not see any merit in it, but western computing world knows how to use it.
There are several others - concepts like Vaasthu, Martial arts, Karma, Rebirth, Past Life Regression Therapy, Astral projection,.. the list is almost endless where the concepts have been mocked at by modern science. But at least a group of western scientists are now doing research in these. Only when they prove, it will become acceptable to Indians. Though I do not want to say that all forms of astrology are scientific (also majority of astrologers may be cheats). But none can convincingly disprove the lack of scientific nature of the same. If I do not know something, I can not say nobody knows that.
Re: Re: Re: Predict Lok Sabha results and win Rs 25 lakh!
by Nostra Damus on May 14, 2009 08:50 PM
Jay - you are wrong. Rationalists existed in India long before the europeans came out of their caves. Even in those ancient times, these rationalists (called themselves as Makkala Ghosala)challenged Godmen, Astrologers and exposed their tricks. Their philosophy was the same as Mukhesh's song - Heaven, Hell, life, death everything is here
Re: Re: Re: Re: Predict Lok Sabha results and win Rs 25 lakh!
by Jay on May 14, 2009 09:22 PM
Yes, rationalism existed & debates existed, but neo-rationalists are there only for the sake of it. They are just having an inferiority complex. They just feel that anything western is superior.
Rationalism is also age-old. Unless there are opposing forces, world will not exist.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Predict Lok Sabha results and win Rs 25 lakh!
by Rk Sharma on May 15, 2009 12:08 AM
Well we Indians have complex about everything, we can't preserve anything, GOd runs our country, in 116 crore we can't find one indian who loves country and can run it,we want Madam from Italy to do it, we are just slum dogs, slaves, this mentality goes with everything, anything is good as long it is white and western. This won't change ever India, rather it is going to get worse, wait till our population reaches 150 crore, more individualism, more problems, worse is yet to come
Foretelling cannot be told Exactly, the way it is challenged. Even many scientific professions medical/engineering etc depend upon some approximation and margins for errors based on empirical present/past data. The challenge is meaningless to prove some useless point by radicals. So as other terms like perfect, pure etc only lie in dictionary. If the rationalists donot understand simple principles of complex events and simply challenging is meaningless.
BJP-165 JDU-19 AIDMK-16 PMK,MDMK-5 Sivsena-8 Akali-8 LJP-3(beeing most opportunists) BJD-10 AGP&others-5 RLD-4 TRS -4 TDP-16(as they will never support Congress and if they cannot form 3rd front Gov) Independents &others --20 ------------------------- total--283 plus TC mamta -5(they will dump Congress due to left support of UPA ---------------------------
BSP --25 =If NDA agrees Mayabati for PM then BSP will join Gov formation otherwise they will give outside support
NDA is clear winer to form Gov without any hassels of 3rd front,forth fron which UPA will find it hard to get .Forming of UPA Gov is very very difficult due to hard nuts of left front,3rd front,4rth front 1.Sonia Gandhi--2 lkh vote margin victory 2.LKA--115000 vote magin victory 3.Mamata--145000 vote margin Victory 4.Lalu--182000 vote margin victory Ram Bilash--176600 margin victory
Re: Re: Re: My prediction
by reddy saisurendranath on May 14, 2009 11:14 PM
what a prediction the torals dont add up. how are they getting 20 other votes and how will ljp support nitish kumars jdu......dream yuur life still tomorrow
I have a question for all those who question soothsayers.
They spend billions on weather forecast. It is supposed to a science, I challenge thwm if they can predict the exact amount of rainfall in each state, what are the dates on which it will rain in all the 4 metros.
If they call weather forecasting a science, astrology is a much better science
Re: I have a question
by Indian Citizen on May 15, 2009 12:04 PM
Indian weather is very complex and gets affected by something happening far off. Its a complex intermingling effect of very large number of parameters which makes a model which is called STOCHASTIC predictive model. There is difference Stochastic model and deterministic model. You are refering Deterministic . The behavious which could be calculable based on derministic approach such as pressurec of gas in a container, temperature or any other thermodynamic property, one could definitely do. Probabilistic or Stochastic model are based on lot of uncertainties.
Our total rain fall ( quantity you mean ) is difficult to predict at least now.
Re: I have a question
by Glynus Miranda on May 14, 2009 09:59 PM | Hide message
Stupid question. Weather is predicted by watching the weather for 3 previous days. Probability is a science but astrology is a myth. because there is no science involved in it and has no reasoning.
Re: Re: I have a question
by Jabali a on May 14, 2009 10:06 PM
Just because it is not a science it doesn't mean that it is flawed
