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Sivasubramaniam sivkumar
TN politicians don't care about Sri Lankan Tamils
by Sivasubramaniam sivkumar on May 14, 2009 08:40 AM

This anti-Tamil venom began when the power base of the sectarians in Tamil Nadu usurped in the 60's. The ritualistic lip service to the Tamil cause fails to disguise the their revenge urge that supports the brutal SL genocide. The ‘nuanced’ approach of Hilary/Obama buried Bush’s ‘terrorism’ doctrine absolved those (including Mandela) fighting apartheid, genocide, apartheid and other forms of injustice. But Raman’s use of Bush’s ‘terrorism’ is to demonise the Tamil resistance/LTTE as 'terrorists' to elevate the genociders as the guardian angels of good. Raman labours to separate the Tamil resistance/LTTE, from the Tamils and Tamil cause to portay the genocide as purely a holy war against ‘terrorism’. The heart breaking and graphic images of the brutal indiscriminate massacre of the Tamils by the SL genociders in the media are mere maya not deserving condemnation. Tamil anger and disgust over such an attitude has begun to take on the shoe throwing form.
Raman who for years claimed that the Tamil cause is a non-issue in TN politics is aghast that it is a hot issue in TN today. Hence his ridicule of the sincerity of Tamilian sympathy for the Tamil cause as a competition to show ‘whose heart bleeds more for the Tamil cause' borders on crude insensitivity. The Tamil voters concern with water and electricity cuts, poor roads and other amenities do not take precedence over their anger towards SL genocide and those who suppo

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Ramesh Bhandari
Mr Raman's Article Part I
by Ramesh Bhandari on May 13, 2009 08:00 PM

PART I -
Parties in Tamilnadu, generally in India have abandoned all ideologies. Parties like MDMK, PMK,VC, DK, TDI etc., are always in support of Eelam demand. ADMK which has all along opposed to Eelam and LTTE is now supporting the cause. If it is a change of mind, one can expect her to deliver constructively. DMK is always not in favour of LTTE ever since MGR and Indira supported Pirabakaran. All other parties have no other go other than joining ADMK or DMK and vice versa for survival. Congress blamed DMK in Rajiv killing and they joined hands. ADMK was against MDMK and joined hands. All these parties after election will join with others to get ministries and they will never raise all the issues of Tamils in one voice. They will oppose each other for the sake of opposing and the party cadres are nurture on these lines only resulting in not showing unity on all issues.


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Ramesh Bhandari
Mr Raman's article Part II
by Ramesh Bhandari on May 13, 2009 07:59 PM

PART II –

In Para 5 Mr Raman advocates for federal set up in srilanka? Why? Is he afraid that creation of Eelam will result in session of Tamilnadu in India? Is Mr Raman not aware that the Eelam kingdoms were ruled by Tamil kings and Sinhalese areas by their own kings? Is Mr Raman not aware that only with the advent of British for administrative convenience the island nation Ceylon was made one or unified and even administered from Madras Fort?. It is the great blunder of Tamils that they preferred to be a single nation and thought that Sinhalese are their brothers and sisters while attaining the independence during 1947. They British who drafted the constitution of Ceylon now say that had we had a suspicion that Sinhalese will sideline Tamils like this we would not have drafted like this and Tamils would have got their homeland and dignity! Why India should have states on the basis of language? Divide the total area into reasonable size retain the states without any distinction. Sounds foolish? Indian states have equal rights and you are talking about giving autonomy to some regions like Gorkhaland or create new regions like Leh, Ladak, Jammu, etc. Want to make Union territories as States. It is good. When congress itself has agreed for creation of West and East Pakistan and later Bangladesh, what makes them not to create Eelam? It is the fear that Tamilnadu will demand session from Indian Union.


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Ramesh Bhandari
Mr Raman's article
by Ramesh Bhandari on May 13, 2009 07:58 PM

PART III – What a calculated false misleading propaganda Mr. Raman is making in Para 6? Except LTTE no other party wants Tamil Eelam! Can you conduct a referendum in Eelam under the guidance of UN? Is he not aware of the struggles of Selvanayagam? When the demand for Eelam did came up? Why people were forced to take up armed struggle? Mr Raman advised the puppet government of Varadharaja Perumal created by IPKF to declare Eelam while fleeing srilanka. Is he not aware that Indira wanted to create Eelam? Is he not aware that Pirabkaran was reluctant to come to India initially? In Para 7 you say that there is no out pour of support for EElam cause. Tamilians may not come out to street. How many died due to self immolation for the cause? Was it motivated? But already the fire has ignited and will remain as a volcano till it is erupted. Has Mr. Raman come to the street when Sankarachariar was arrested? We know how his heart and soul jumped like a fish out of water he cannot come to street to fight but he can write that is his gene, fighting unto death is the gene of Eelam Tamils, the gene of Tamils in Tamilnadu will be seen only when time comes.

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maanamullatamilan
Only Solution for Tamil Eelam
by maanamullatamilan on May 13, 2009 04:50 PM  | Hide replies

THe only solution for Tamil Eelam is "Sent all brahmins out from TN, like kicked all from temples"

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SivaSankaran Sarma
Re: Only Solution for Tamil Eelam
by SivaSankaran Sarma on May 13, 2009 06:10 PM
Why do you hate us so much? Tamil i salso our language and we love Tamil and Tamil culture too.

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maanamullatamilan
Re: Re: Only Solution for Tamil Eelam
by maanamullatamilan on May 13, 2009 06:30 PM
in small age i used to go to temple, iyer used to put vibuuthi on our hand with 2 inch gap. what is this ?
for every thing its 'abachaaram".

one day i went to my brahmin friend house, they not allowed me inside, but my friend struggled a lot, but not his father.
why hatred of low caste ?

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Ramesh Bhandari
Re: Re: Only Solution for Tamil Eelam
by Ramesh Bhandari on May 13, 2009 08:23 PM
Dear Mr Sarma, Jaffna Brahmins are totally a pure class of people. They suffered and continue to suffer from SLA and they are genuine in supporting LTTE. But Brahmin's of Tamilnadu are totally a different class when compared to Brahmins of other south Indian states vis-a-vis North India. I am really very sorry to discuss on this board on caste lines but forced to. These people are totally opposed to Tamil’s well being in Eelam. A careful analysis of Mr Raman/Cho Ramaswamy/N. Ram/Subramania samy/ and others’ articles/utterances will give you their cunningness and cleverness in twisting the facts. In fact these people had a very effective influence on ruling congress governments from time to time. Some of them were earlier played a role of decision makers to the disadvantage of Eelam Tamils and some are now crying wolf. For e.g, Cho used to say that Pirabakaran will never fight in the field….you know the ground reality. N. Ram for instance reported properly the Eelam events till fight broke out between LTTE and IPKF and never accounted for the atrocities of IPKF, which you have first hand experience in your soil. I am a regular buyer of Hindu newspaper from 1977 and stopped that from the day they become anti Tamil. One may have patriotism at the same time if humanism is not fostered what is the use of Patriotism? These people simply look things from Brahmin Vs non-Brahmin only but often fail to look genocide from a humanitarian angle.Please give your correct ema

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Ramesh Bhandari
Re: Re: Re: Only Solution for Tamil Eelam
by Ramesh Bhandari on May 14, 2009 10:22 AM
Mr sivasanakaran pl give your email id

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Krishna vm
Re: Only Solution for Tamil Eelam
by Krishna vm on May 13, 2009 04:58 PM
Hi Maanamullatamilan. Can you explain your point pls?

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maanamullatamilan
Re: Re: Only Solution for Tamil Eelam
by maanamullatamilan on May 13, 2009 05:24 PM
1. opposing reservation
2. stopping sethu
3. All are SL supporters
etc

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maanamullatamilan
Re: Re: Only Solution for Tamil Eelam
by maanamullatamilan on May 13, 2009 05:26 PM
4. born from nose of brahma and others leg


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maanamullatamilan
Re: Re: Only Solution for Tamil Eelam
by maanamullatamilan on May 13, 2009 05:26 PM
3. All are SL supporters


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maanamullatamilan
Re: Re: Only Solution for Tamil Eelam
by maanamullatamilan on May 13, 2009 05:25 PM
1. opposing reservation


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maanamullatamilan
Re: Re: Only Solution for Tamil Eelam
by maanamullatamilan on May 13, 2009 05:25 PM
2. sethu project opposing


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maanamullatamilan
Re: Re: Only Solution for Tamil Eelam
by maanamullatamilan on May 13, 2009 05:22 PM
1. always stoping the development of the country in the name of stories
2. treating low caste as nothing, they are best in society
3. dravidans telling "help tamils", they r telling "SL is good" (jaya, cho, subramiya saamy, the hindu paper")
4. all dravidans want sethu, except brahmins..

the are the childs of god, all others are stupids. not allowing others to sing song in front of lord shiva in chidambaram.

oppose the reservation for lower caste, though everyone are in hign positions.

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maanamullatamilan
Re: Re: Only Solution for Tamil Eelam
by maanamullatamilan on May 13, 2009 05:25 PM
2. stopping sethu


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Edwin Navaratnam
Re: Only Solution for Tamil Eelam
by Edwin Navaratnam on May 13, 2009 05:27 PM
Iam not a Tamil Brahmin, but why should they be kicked out? There as Tamil as you are and Tamil Nadu, the Tamil language and the Tamil culture is as much as theirs as yours, They havee contributed a lot to it. Just because a few Tamil Brahmins liek CHo HIndu Ram are pro Sinhala does not mean every Tamil brahmin is pro Sinhala and anti Tamil. There many non Brahmin Tamils who have betrayed teh Tamils too. I donot have to name them. For your information out of all the Tamil scastes amongst the Srilankan or Eelam Tamils, the Sinhalese hate the native Tamil Brahmins the most, especially the poor HIndu priests, as they feel that they represent the Tamil cuture and HInduism the most. Your comments are very silly and childish. They do not benefit any one especially all Tamils both Brahmin and non Brahmin but only give more fodder to manyof the anti Tamils here. I thought Mr. Ramans article was well written.

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biby tharian
well written
by biby tharian on May 13, 2009 03:29 PM

well written

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Krishna vm
What about the Indian Tamilians?
by Krishna vm on May 13, 2009 03:25 PM  | Hide replies

All these a-hole politicians crying from their rooftops about the plight of Sri Lankan Tamils. I can't understand why don't they contribute even 10% of all these effors in uplifting the Indian Tamils in TN??? Have these dum sht politicians solved all the problems of Indian Tamilians that they have enough time to engage in verbal diarhoea about foreign Tamilians? Yes my heart goes out to all those Sri Lankans (Tam or not) who have become refugees in their own country but the political parties in TN seem to forget that OUR OWN people are facing enough hardships everyday in TN. Serve our own people properly 1st you fkrs!!

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SivaSankaran Sarma
Re: What about the Indian Tamilians?
by SivaSankaran Sarma on May 13, 2009 06:17 PM
Why do you call us Eelam Tamils as foreign? India and Sri Lanka are creations of Britain. However prior to that. The Tamil people and Tamil lands have existed and all Tamil people are one. These are artificial creations of the British. Suppose the British had joined partso of SOuthern Tamil Nadu to present day Sri Lanka. would you have called these Tamils form Rameswaram etc as foreign Tamils? Countries can come and go. Borders of countries change and old counties may disappeare and new countries may form. There was undivided India. Then India and Pakistan. Then Indian Pakistan and Bangladesh. However Bengalis. Punjabis and Tamisl stil remain the same. We Eelam Tamils may be foreign to a non Tamil Inidan but should not be foreign to a Indian Tamil.

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RAJAVARMAN
ABSOLUTELY CORRECT
by RAJAVARMAN on May 13, 2009 02:56 PM

Every party in Tamilnadu is least bothered about the Srilankan issue. Neither the DMK-Congress combine nor the AIADMK-PMK-MDMK-Communist combine have any strategy for resolving the Srilankan Tamil issue, they are acting like a flock of sheep. THe PMK leader Mr.Ramdoss acts as if he is very much worried about the killing of innocent tamils in Srilanka. What has he been doing for the 1 1/2 years keeping his son as a Cabinet Minister and enjoying all the facilities, why he did not ask his son to resign from the ministry in protest of killing of srilankan tamils? What prompted Ms.Jayalalitha to suddenly change her stand on LTTE and Lakan tamils and owing to create a separate Ealam if she voted? It is really painfull see all such dramas daily enacted by the Tamilnadu politicians for vote. IT IS HIGHLY SHAMEFULL TO TOLERATE SUCH SHAMLESS, INHUMAN PEOPLE.

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NCN
Re: B RAMAN and stooges and slaves listen up
by NCN on May 13, 2009 02:43 PM
Aint tamilians hindus?

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NCN
Re: Re: B RAMAN and stooges and slaves listen up
by NCN on May 13, 2009 03:01 PM
I always thought they are hindus, one of us. Anyone saying NO.
So tell me
which god do you pray?
which temple do you go?
The most beautiful temples are in Tamilnadu and who can miss Rameshawram?
Any answer guys? or you were just hitting in the air without brains?

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SreeRamKhan
Re: Re: B RAMAN and stooges and slaves listen up
by SreeRamKhan on May 13, 2009 02:41 PM
why bring brahmins here?
bramans do not hate thamils please understand.

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anandhan
Re: Re: Re: B RAMAN and stooges and slaves listen up
by anandhan on May 17, 2009 12:46 PM
Brahmins hate tamils(eg: cho,jaya,Nram.subramani swamy)...all a the same catagory...that why people didn't believed the AIADMK(opposing sethu ,dream for tamils opposed by brahmins) for creation of eelam..but at the same time mani shankar aiyar and other congress people are defeated ...

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