Advani just talks... he has been talking from a very long time. he was desperate to become PM when Vajpayee was around. now he is desperate to garner votes from all over India. the fact of the matter is that, BJP has always stoked religious sentiments during elections. they are doing the same now. BJP have no economic plan to put in order if they come to power this year. they only follow the Gujarat model of investment. i think Mr. Advani & Modi have forgotten that under Congress Gujarat progressed even more and Gujarat was always a progressive state since the 1950's. Advani should look at Karnataka and its state now. ever since the BJP came to power Bangalore & other smaller cities in Karnataka have dropped down the development index. it is better that Advani concentrates on "development" than talking about Varun Gandhi. a youn politician like Varun Gandhi should talk about development and not Hindu-Muslim rivalry !!
Re: Advani is just the same
by Mak Kumar on Apr 01, 2009 02:17 PM
If people like Lalu Yadav (Fodder scamster to the hilt, backbencher in Patna University, Known trouble creator, one who pushed Bihar behind by 15 years after he took over), Jayalalitha (only qualification, was a mistress to MGR), Mayavati (casteist to the core), Sharad Pawar can dream to become the Prime Minister of India, Advani is a much better alternative than these jokers. Progress and Congress although are rhyming but sadly they cannot exist together
Re: Advani is just the same
by Jiggs on Apr 01, 2009 12:47 PM
super nova... You assessment on Gujarat is totally baseless, at least the native Gujarati will not agree with you. Under the Congress till 1990, Gujarat suffered from COMMUNAL RIOTS EVERY YEAR WITHOUT A PAUSE SINCE 1947. How come you have failed to highlight this issue. These riots,especially the one in 1967 was the deadliest in the history of Independent India,just by the virtue of H1ndus being at the receiving end and with a Congress government at the helm, all talk about this one is shoved under the carpet. I know Gujarat like the back of my hand, spare me the nonsense. Pls. research about it and then tell me that why Gujrati's don't vote for the Congress since 1990. Re. Karnataka...the BJP government will finish its year in power now, how can you issue a verdict so soon? Kannadigas love their BJP government. Talk something new.
Re: Re: Advani is just the same
by Indian on Apr 01, 2009 01:59 PM
Jiggs, good one. Even I would agree with you on Gujarat. I've stayed at Kolkata & Gujarat but I enjoyed my stay in Gujarat more in spite of having my roots in WB. And I give full credit to Mr. Narendra Modi. We need a strong leader like him.
Re: Re: Advani is just the same
by desikan r on Apr 01, 2009 09:22 PM
Good and sensible. The BJP govt did last its entire tenure at the centre and has done exceedingly well in Gujarat. BJP in K'taka has to undo a lot of f-ups created by previous cong govts and set the house right. All the best. And Advani may still be a better PM than MMS (read Sonia), Maya and their ilk.
Mr Advani, most of us believe that you are an honourable man, but this time you appear to have made a great mistake. You might feel that it is no great offence to insult, humiliate or even intimidate the minority-community people (as we have seen many times - from Ayodya in 1992 to Gujarat in 2002 and Orissa in 2008), but there are many many people who do not think this way. So, even if you do not feel it appropriate to book those who killed hundreds in Gujarat, we feel that a person who foolishly made the minority-community people the target of his attack must be booked.
Re: Mr Advani ....
by Vidisha on Apr 01, 2009 02:01 PM
What can we do? We dont have Imams and politicals organisations buttering 1slamic organisations. So how can we stop the turmoil in the North East? And the ghetto-building in major cities. Where does this all end? Or rather, when? No change since independence. Who's got the solution. Maybe not Advani, but who? Certainly not MMS or the Gandhi brigade.
Leave this point about all religion and other matters. We all know openly that congress support muslims and BJP supports hindus. So both are communal... I personally feel we should vote a party just based on the development they had done and commited to do to this country... Although no political party is really committed for this purposed, I feel BJP is better than congress. In terms of development they have done lot to the country.. then what congress did in these 48 years... Do you agree or not...? You have to understand that BJP have got only 5 years of chance to exhibit their skills whereas congress has 48 years of experience and still done nothing to the country... Now you tell me which party do you want our country people to select... On one hand we have the most experienced party congress party who has done nothing but keeps poverty in the country after 48 years of their rule...and on the other hand we have BJP who have got just 5 years of chance and promptly done development to the country... like National highway project, Atom bomb testing, Kashmir peace, foreign policy, Focussed on eastern side states also like assam, tirupra, etc., significantly fought against terrorism like bringing in POTA, fought for kargil etc, You can tell me if you have counter opinion for this... Please dont talk as a mus1im.... talk as an indian....
Re: Message to kusheer ahamed
by vivek iyer on Apr 01, 2009 05:08 PM
dont ask what the congress or bjp has done or will do for the country....as what u have done or will do for the country
Re: Message to kusheer ahamed
by sunil gupta on Apr 01, 2009 02:45 PM
In 48 years, India has grown very fast. Go and ask your dad and grandfather, they will tell you about India 48 years back.
Re: Re: Message to kusheer ahamed
by Twister on Apr 01, 2009 02:59 PM
You are wrong. Ok what can congress do? Like others are saying, we are sick of infiltrators. Can you accept this? Or will you say this is also a lie.
Re: Message to kusheer ahamed
by Haramohan Roy on Apr 01, 2009 12:28 PM
Mr Manoj, you gave some good points. But, please tell me, why did the BJP and the NDA lose the election in 2004 if they had done so many good things?
Re: Re: Message to kusheer ahamed
by Vidisha on Apr 01, 2009 02:15 PM
I think because they have been very wrongly projected. Example..the Ram Sena incident is also now associated with BJP by many people. In realty they are backed by Congress..so why is everyone associating them to BJP? Anyone who says Ram doesnt automatically become a member of BJP. Similar incidents have been there in the past as well. Secondly, Varun's video - half of the people havent even heard what all he said but they all consider themselves experts on his likes, dislikes, vices, terrorist mentality, 'evil notions' ..and what not!
If BJP loses, it will mainly be because of false projection.
Other problems are there too...some party goes and licks the boots of a church guy while the other will wash dishes in a mosque. Everybody wants reservations. Lots of radical organisations are there which will go to any extent to have their way. Total madhouse!!
Re: Re: Message to kusheer ahamed
by Mak Kumar on Apr 01, 2009 02:21 PM
Why did Patel not become Prime Minister of India after the independence although he was a much better administrator than Nehru, why was Subhash Chandra Bose forced to resign by Gandhi even though he had overwhelmingly won the Congress Presiden election in 1930s? There is no connection between good governance and winning- at least not in India
Whoever is going to vote for Advani, think for a while that how many parliamentary seats BJP had been secured before 1992-93 bloody Rath Yatra and communal violence. BJP became powerful only after spoiling communal harmony of India. Now he is presenting himself as a Leaders of all caste and group, but he is actually a culprit for a biggest crime.
Re: Think for a while.
by Jiggs on Apr 01, 2009 12:27 PM
Khursheed... Actually, we dont call the Rath Yatra as bloody, most certainly it was not as bloody and violent as some of the Taziyas we see. You see the Rath yatra was for Lord Shri Ram and he stolen temple. BJP has promised us the temple and we will continue to support it till we die. It is all about setting priorities my friend. Just like Musl1ms in Hyderabad have been voting for M-I-M for the past 50 years, why, this party was of the Nizam of Hyderabad and this guy actually wanted to align with Pakistan, then why would Musl1ms in Hyderabad vote for these M-I-M traitors? If you guys can do it, so can we...aint any law stopping us from doing it.
Re: Think for a while.
by Manoj Kumar on Apr 01, 2009 12:28 PM
Why do you think only a sin commited against a mus1im community is communal..? what congress had done during 1984 is not communal...? Talk about development buddy??? Instead of talking about religion... If you still want to talk about religion then well i can also start.... What about the kashmir pundits who were massacred in kashmir valley during congress period??? Congress is giving haj subsidy to your religion whereas not for my religion??? Dont you think this is partiality...? In shah bano case congress had accepted shariat law in india by accepting not to give compensation for the women after divorce... Is this not communal? So, if some good done partially for your community then it is not communal, and the same has been done for other community then it is communal??? am i correct??
Re: Re: Re: Think for a while.
by Vidisha on Apr 01, 2009 02:32 PM
You didnt like him contradicting Khursheed? Kya kare...everyone has their own opinions..
Re: vf
by Jiggs on Apr 01, 2009 12:34 PM
Sanjay Gandhi was fathered by a chap called Mohd. Yunus. However, on his death he was cremated as per Hindu rites. Sanjay's wife Maneka was born as a Sikh and Varun has chosen his father's adopted religion ...Hinduism. This Eureka is very old pal.
With recession in place and no immediate upturn, like the returning NRI's, Advani must return to his native land. He has made a good living so far. Now its time for locals to get the job. Advani must go back.
Re: Re: Varun Gandhi
by pradeep agarwal on Apr 01, 2009 12:03 PM
R U saying that Varun should pay for his father's mistake? Do U hold this logic true for yourself as well?
Re: Re: Varun Gandhi
by Twister on Apr 01, 2009 04:09 PM
You talking to Sarang about Advani's funny comment? No one else who listens to you? And hows that a reply to what he posted?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Varun Gandhi
by sarang joshi on Apr 01, 2009 11:54 AM
you are twisting the matter.. I am talking about Varun and you are talking about his father!!
Re: Re: Re: Re: Varun Gandhi
by Jiggs on Apr 01, 2009 11:56 AM
What do you want to know about the emergency? And, yes it is a known fact that Sanjay wanted to use the emergency to forcefully sterilize the Musl1ms, so that they adhere to the 2 child policy. Speak to anybody near Ajmeri Gate, Delhi. The Musl1ms in that area still wet their pants the moment they hear any talk about Sanjay Gandhi.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Varun Gandhi
by Jiggs on Apr 01, 2009 12:00 PM
Khursheed...This is the problem with Mullah education, you guys dont read what is written, now have I mentioned anything about the BJP and the sterilization program? NO. And this UPA government has gone ahead and said that Madarasa education will be treated at par with CBSE education. Now you see why India has opposed this move by the UPA government.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Varun Gandhi
by khursheed ahmad on Apr 01, 2009 12:07 PM
This is the problem with Sanghis' education, you guys dont read what is written. I was talking about advani's comment on emergency and you twisted it to sterlisation.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Varun Gandhi
by Jiggs on Apr 01, 2009 12:16 PM
Khursheed...A typical Congress maneuver, you specifically mentioned Sanjay Gandhi to Sarang Joshi... Dont get mad at yourselves, I can understand you difficulty in answering facts.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Varun Gandhi
by rajeshraii on Apr 01, 2009 12:09 PM
hahhahahahhaha khurshed is right , noew its time for jiggs sterilisation by the chadiwalals
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Varun Gandhi
by Jiggs on Apr 01, 2009 12:28 PM
rajeshraii... Good you had laugh at my expense, however what I find amusing is that once the program is implemented, will you volunteer in eternal brotherhood?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Varun Gandhi
by Twister on Apr 01, 2009 02:59 PM
DOnt worry rajesh no one will wet their pants like khursheed and his likes. Absolutely no one.
Re: Re: To all muzlims
by sarang joshi on Apr 01, 2009 11:48 AM
See Gandhi did many things right... but godse k i l l e d him as he did not make the partition full... Due to this decision of gandhi...India is suffering today!!
Re: Re: Re: To all muzlims
by khursheed ahmad on Apr 01, 2009 11:49 AM
If there is no wrong with Godse, then Can RSS dare to declare his their national Hero Openly? They are hidden appreciater of British rule in India. Can they admit it openly? If they cannot, they should be declare coward.
Re: Re: Re: Vote Congress & See Delhi is Muslimabad Within a
by Sameer Bhawat on Apr 01, 2009 12:01 PM
Actully Delli is Indian name. You have lots of work to do otherwise for names like Allahbad, Aurangabad, Ahmedabad, Muzzefernagar. Did BJP do any of ?? no they don't have that cheeze
Re: Re: Vote Congress & See Delhi is Muslimabad Within a Yea
by Jiggs on Apr 01, 2009 11:38 AM
Khursheed...You are admitting that you and your fellow brothers suffer from mental problems called Jihad?
Re: Vote Congress & See Delhi is Muslimabad Within a Year.
by khursheed ahmad on Apr 01, 2009 11:41 AM
Which has not happened during mighty 1000 years rule of muslims though when there were no UNO, no US and any other international power to stop them, you are talking about this nowadays. I think you have a mental problem. Or you was hired by BJP for spreading rumour.
Re: Re: Vote Congress & See Delhi is Muslimabad Within a Yea
by Jiggs on Apr 01, 2009 11:46 AM
Khursheed...Lets not talk history here, I can floor you completely and I dont want to embarrass you to the extent of you taking the final step.
Re: Re: Re: Vote Congress & See Delhi is Muslimabad Within a
by Sameer Bhawat on Apr 01, 2009 11:58 AM
Khursheed has a point. Congress cannot forecefully convert all to muslim, though it can continue to favor as long as it works for congress votebank.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Vote Congress & See Delhi is Muslimabad With
by Jiggs on Apr 01, 2009 12:03 PM
Sameer Bhawat... What is this move to treat Madarssa education to CBSE education at par then? Pls. explain....if this is not official proselytism?
Re: Vote Congress & See Delhi is Muslimabad Within a Year.
by Sameer Bhawat on Apr 01, 2009 11:54 AM
Vishwa stop copying brity slum dog be original first