Re: Re: Vote BJP because it has great urine drinking leaders
by Jaffer Ali on Mar 30, 2009 12:13 AM
Dear Jollydoss, these hardliners who support BJP simply because its anti-minority stand. See in other major parties majority of the leaders are Hindus and they far more better than BJP leaders.
Re: Re: Re: Vote BJP because it has great urine drinking leaders
by Rationalist on Mar 30, 2009 12:16 AM
All of them are slaves of party autocratic heads. All their goodness is as good as the goodness of their fuedal bosses.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Vote BJP because it has great urine drinking lead
by Jaffer Ali on Mar 30, 2009 12:20 AM
So according to you BJP is the only good party in the whole earth?? If yes reply with proof.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Vote BJP because it has great urine drinking
by Rationalist on Mar 30, 2009 12:29 AM
I am not talking for earth. But the proof is that COngress after 60 years has not done any good for our country.Even backward country can dare to attack our country and get away. And China is always in a threatening position.We depend on foreign countries for our major defence requirement and always under mercy of USA,China for ensurity of our security. This is the legacy of 60 years of Congress rule. BJP is a cadre based party not autocracy like Congress where whole country is controlled by one family which has institutionalized corruption, nurtured poverty for holding control over this country and ensured that our country does not progress. BJP is only hope for freeing India from their clutches and making India a superpower.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Vote BJP because it has great urine drinking
by Matt Hayden on Mar 30, 2009 12:32 AM
no there is Pakistan peoples party, which is much better than BJP and also Taliban Naitonal Party (coming soon) both are ultimate parties to join
Re: Re: Re: Vote BJP because it has great urine drinking leaders
by Rationalist on Mar 30, 2009 12:15 AM
ALl of them are slave of regional heads. All their goodness is as good as the goodness of their fuedal bosses.
In 10000 years of Indian history India never attacked any country. In other words it never has guts to do so? Why because we always believed kill our neighbor first in spite of neighbor country. Even tiny mangolia attacked. British ruled us for 300 years and this golden bird become crow of trash dump, who eats on leftover of others. Again we are going towards that direction. Hate will take us to hell and love will take us to heaven. Why these leaders don't do anything when they are in government. Why BJP has not built Ram temple in 6 years of tenure? Why they remember it at election time. Why communist are able to feed people in Bengal? Why there is still over 30% of people live below poverty line? Why Naxals are not talked about more than muslims even tough they kill 10 times more people then later? Why BJP released Masood Azahar? The day we get answer of these question we will be able to take India to where people will eat 3 times a day, children go to school, villages have light and electricity. God bless Indians.
Re: Re: Stop hating
by Jaffer Ali on Mar 29, 2009 11:41 PM
Well said my brother. After all we need a better Govt for our better lives. If BJP says that its not anti-Muslim/Xtians and once it is out of Sangh Parivar we all will support them. Also they should come up with real issues like devlopments unlike temple/Mosque issues.
Re: Stop hating
by Rationalist on Mar 29, 2009 11:55 PM
Mozlems are killing more than 100 times what Naxals are killing. Naxalism is incedental and can be controlled. Izlamic terror is more than 1400 years old and most barbaric. SO do'nt try to compare Naxals with Izlam.
Re: Re: Stop hating
by Jaffer Ali on Mar 30, 2009 12:00 AM
In India Naxals killed more than any terror organisation and second comes ULFA. In a single incident in Gujarat the sangh parivar activists killed more than 2000 innocents. This is far higher than overall so called Mozlem terrorist killed.
Re: Re: Re: Stop hating
by Rationalist on Mar 30, 2009 12:13 AM
ANd consider the no of people in History killed for converting? May be your forefathers were also converted at force on tip of sword.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Stop hating
by Rationalist on Mar 30, 2009 12:20 AM
Why do you think Kashmiri Pandits were forced out from their home of more than 2000 years?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Stop hating
by Shah shahid on Mar 30, 2009 12:53 AM
Hitlor was the bigget killer in the world history is Bibile teach it, Ashoka kolled a Million , did he learn from Geeta or other Wedas
Re: Re: Re: Stop hating
by Rationalist on Mar 30, 2009 12:11 AM
After all who started G0drah? ANd why? Because their ideology preaches to hate kaaaafirs.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Stop hating
by Jaffer Ali on Mar 30, 2009 12:19 AM
Godhra is an accident. Its still not proved as an incident. We have no policy to hate other faiths. In Holy Koran it says even speaking bad against other religion is a sin. In the whole Koran you will not find a single word to hate non-believers. It even says " LAKUM DEENUKKUM VALIYA DEEN" means "TO BE YOURS AND TO BE MINE".
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Stop hating
by Twister on Mar 30, 2009 06:22 AM
Doesnt matter what is written, since most of them dont seem to be following it.
Different kids might go to the same school. In your case the problem is 90% learning the wrong things. This is your responsiblity and not ours so wake up and use your logic.You are the ones who can prevent this, not us.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Stop hating
by Twister on Mar 30, 2009 06:23 AM
Doesnt matter what is written, since most of them dont seem to be following it.
Different kids might go to the same school. In your case the problem is 90% learning the wrong things. This is your responsiblity and not ours so wake up and use your logic.You are the ones who can prevent this, not us.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Stop hating
by Rationalist on Mar 30, 2009 12:34 AM
Godrah accident is only theory of Laloo Prasad Yadav. This is an example of how psuedo secularist have always tried to distort facts and hide the atrocities of followers of Izlam in history.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Stop hating
by Libran on Mar 30, 2009 12:41 AM
Don't try to fool others to be complacent. Everywhere not just in India, Moslems are killing others and have a aim to convert entire world to Islam by force. Godhra was one of the action items. You say 2000 Moslems killed. Please google and get the facts right!! The actual numbers are nearly 1000 Muslims and believe it or not 800 Hindus killed by Police and Muslims during After-Godhra incidents!!
One more thing my friend, if Gujarath had not replied to that Ghastly Godhra incident so vehemently, the anger would have engulfed entire nation and the figures would have been in tens of thousands remember that!! Unfortunately that is a fact!!
You say Godhra is still not proved. What a shame!! when whole world knows - you need proof? You speak in the same lines like what Pak said after 11/26 -- No wonder -- birds of same feather croke alike!!
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Stop hating
by subramanyasastry hoskote on Mar 30, 2009 12:31 AM
It will never be proved so long as your first right is not taken away.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Stop hating
by Rationalist on Mar 30, 2009 12:32 AM
There are lot of contradictory verses in Quraaan. IT is used to fool the non-beleivers and attack from behind.
Re: Re: Stop hating
by Twister on Mar 30, 2009 06:21 AM
The whole world knows but these people are just howling for the sake of it. They need something to talk about, else they wont get their wages for the day.
Re: Re: Stop hating
by Twister on Mar 30, 2009 06:11 AM
Knowing is a different thing. These people also know but they will howl nevertheless. Kuchh to chahiye argument ke liye..hahaa,
I live in US and here White Americans are very sensitive in what they talk about minorities like Blacks or Asians. So even though the population of Blacks more prone to crime or Indians are taking their jobs away, most Whites never say that 'my daughter is scared of black men', or that 'blacks should die' or that 'Indians are taking our jobs away, let's kill them'.
Most Americans realize that they need to work together and help the other deprived or minority communities to improve. We Indians need to show similar maturity and help in the growth of all sections of the population, be it Dalits or Muslims.
For some Indians, it is easier to dump all our problems on Muslims and Dalits (most of whom are poor). So some Indians may say "all these Muslims and Dalits are so poor and illiterate and criminals, let's kill them".
But that is not a solution. We are not living in barbarian times. The solution is to work together for a better India. There will always be a few black sheep, but let's keep the pace going...and the future will be ours...
Re: Re: Learn from others - Show some maturity
by Jaffer Ali on Mar 29, 2009 11:50 PM
Dear Mr. Jain, there is a huge under ground campaign going on against the minorities in India funded by Sangh Parivar. Thankfully by and large still people are living in harmony, although one cannot predict about the future. This insecure feeling is making so many terrorists from the Muslim community. In other words the sangh parivar is making terrorists inside India, these few brain washed/ in secured youths joining hands with the foreign terrorists.
Re: Re: Re: Learn from others - Show some maturity
by Twister on Mar 30, 2009 06:29 AM
Why are illegal bangldeshis getting voter cards? Is this done by Sangh too?
See the way you guys just hate Sangh parivar without reason, makes your opinion sounds biased.
Re: Learn from others - Show some maturity
by Twister on Mar 30, 2009 06:48 AM
Dear Richir Jain, you should have considered the below points before allowing people like Jaffer Ali to throw comments which are far from truth - like Sangh parivar funding terrorism. There are 100 organisations which are pro-1slamist, we can accuse them to getting money from Gulf to spread their venom.
1) Blacks didnt invade US for years, in fact they were ill-treated by the whites as the whole world knows. You can compare this to Dalits but not the power-hungry Muslims. Lets not bring Dalits into this discussion; all of us are ready to accomodate their demands or at least the just ones. 2) Since Blacks were slaves, they got different feelings toward the whites and the whites know this. Its still a sensitive issue. 3) India or H1ndus never invaded others. You know what religions came in via invaders. So they cannot claim to be oppressed or used. We H1ndus can say we have been tormented like the blacks. 4) Who is responsible for the Musl1ms being minorities?
Most importantly none one is asking anyone to kill as moslems. Varun just said he will cut any hand that dares to kill h1ndus so how is that communal? It can mean anyone. Why is it made to look like hes rallying people along? Just because SOME people want to think that way? This is what is called spreading hatred.
I am sure life abroad is fine, but it might lead of myopic vision and half truths circulated around like it is doing in some cases.
Re: Learn from others - Show some maturity
by Rationalist on Mar 30, 2009 12:00 AM
But there is difference b/n Blacks, Dalits and Mozlems. In the latter case, the problem is that they belive their religion is the most superior one and non believers do'nt have right to live.Till they do'nt give up this thinking, the friction will last.
Re: Re: Learn from others - Show some maturity
by Rationalist on Mar 30, 2009 12:02 AM
The responsiblity of working out solution should be shared equally. Should'nt it?
Re: Re: Re: Learn from others - Show some maturity
by Jaffer Ali on Mar 30, 2009 12:06 AM
Yes we call them non believers of our faith and that does not stop us from living harmoniously for decades with the majority community. We are still having good and strong relation ship with the majority community. The differences came only after BJP and their "DIVIDE AND RULE" policy.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Learn from others - Show some maturity
by Rationalist on Mar 30, 2009 12:18 AM
BJP is not following divide and rule and policy. Rather they are for equality for all which is seen as division policy by psuedo secular Congress.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Learn from others - Show some maturity
by Rationalist on Mar 30, 2009 12:21 AM
Just check your holy books. I am not talking about ignorant mozlems. I am talking about Izlam as an ideology.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Learn from others - Show some maturity
by Jaffer Ali on Mar 30, 2009 12:07 AM
BTW you can also call us non believers because we are following a different faith.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Learn from others - Show some maturity
by Rationalist on Mar 30, 2009 12:19 AM
Hiduism does not have any concept of disbeleivers because Hinduism is not a religion.It is a way of living.
Re: Re: Learn from others - Show some maturity
by Jaffer Ali on Mar 30, 2009 12:04 AM
Non believers, yes Muslims calling people who does not have faith in ISLAM as non believers. What is the problem with that and that does not make us not co-operating or living with other faiths. If you want call us non believers because we are not believers of H!nduism. We Muslims still living happily with our H!ndu brothers, so please do not try to divide us to get some votes.
Re: Re: Re: Election between ITALY CHINA vs INDIA .....How ??????
by Anubhav Lal on Mar 29, 2009 11:12 PM
No typical communists do have that much brain. They do what their bosses tell them to do. One guy karat tried to use his brain by withdrawing support to MMS and the entire communists suffer. They were easily getting around 50 seats but now even getting 20 will be tough
Re: Re: Election between ITALY CHINA vs INDIA .....How ?????? by
by Twister on Mar 30, 2009 06:53 AM
What about kangree and CPM silliness of making a hue and cry on everything thats related to minorities? Do you sleep through that stage?
Re: Re: Election between ITALY CHINA vs INDIA .....How ?????? by
by Tiki padhi on Mar 30, 2009 09:50 AM
Indian communist - budy in India , Mind & Heart in chila Indian Congress - body in India , Mind & Heart in Italy BJP- Body in Bharat, Mind and Heart in Bharat
Re: Election between ITALY CHINA vs INDIA .....How ?????? by veer
by Dhananjay Aditya on Mar 29, 2009 11:36 PM
Jagoo Movement in TV & net is BJP dominated. Party names in nocriminals.org is not alphabetically arrenged in drop down box --- to search corrupt leaders --- BJP intentionally kept at very last..............
Re: Re: Election between ITALY CHINA vs INDIA .....How ?????? by
by Twister on Mar 30, 2009 06:54 AM
hahahahha..listen theres a limit to silliness and you are desperately trying to cross it.
Re: The Great Indian JOKER (Gandhi Congress) Party Of India !!!!!
by Dhananjay Aditya on Mar 29, 2009 11:39 PM
Advani is typical Pak born Joker. What his party BJP done for Swiss money when they were in power? * Ulta wahan jyaadaa paisaa bhar diyaa!!!!
Re: Re: The Great Indian JOKER (Gandhi Congress) Party Of India !
by Twister on Mar 30, 2009 07:11 AM
Really? you sound like a big dreamer who loves to tell his dreams around.
suggestion to obama on porkistan. usa shud re-think its policy on porkis usa is using porkis for fight in afghan. but it was a very old strategy when afghan was controlled by ussr. now ussr disintegrated into 15 nations. russia is not a super power n more over not an enemy with usa. so usa now shud use russia n its borders to fight against taliban in afghan. that way, usa vl remove its dependence on porkis. n porkis vl not get any monetary aid from usa. that vl b a deadly blow to porkis. coz porkis is always using the usa money to fund errorism against ind. so usa-russia coalition vl strengthen the world n isolate porkis.
India is both a secular state and a hindu nation, as more than 85% of the people are hindus.
The BJP's commitment should be equally to both secularism and hindutva.
One should not be emphasised at the cost of the other.They should project hindutva in a proactive fashion, not in a reactive fashion.
Also the neglect of the hindu majority by the previous governments and refusal to address its concerns and insecurities is the reason for the wide support for Varun Gandhi.
Unless the hindu majority is uplifted, the country cannot progress.
Re: Advani a Begger
by Mahavir on Mar 29, 2009 08:53 PM
Water - Why would advani die? Did you die in shock and shame when your co-relgeionists attacked Mumbai? When your co-relegionists killed so many Indians in bomb blasts?
Did you die in shame when your co-relgionists vows to kill all non believers and wage a war against India?
Re: Re: Advani a Begger
by Ritesh Nath on Mar 29, 2009 11:00 PM
I hope by next elections the 20-25% will become 35-40% due do the great capability that you people have.........hahahaha Jago India Jago Jago India Jago
Re: Re: Advani a Begger
by Aman sharma on Mar 29, 2009 07:39 PM
Then who do you think the PM MMS (Please come out also with how many terrorsit attached we had in last 5 years. ) Prakash Karat Mayawati..
Regarding Pakistan and funding..Where did you get these facts..please give then to congress..this will help them
