in India there is Nehruvian type of secularism tilt towards other sects except majority.Nehru has ignored Gandhi's & Sardar Patel's version of secularism. after the death of Gandhi & Sardar there was no one to stop Nehru. If we want true secularism for majority as well it requires complete transformation from present political system a departure from Nehruvian secularism.
Re: in India there is Nehruvian type of secularism
by Umashanker Kapoor on Mar 26, 2009 05:33 PM
there is a new found seculirism and is endorsed by LK Advaniji. it is the jinnah secularism. we shoud vote bbjjpp for jinnah type secularism.
Re: Re: in India there is Nehruvian type of secularism
by ak on Mar 26, 2009 05:41 PM
misrepresenting & ridiculing facts will not revert the history my dear Kapoor. this is a fact that Indian subcontinent has been divided in Afghanistan,Pakistan & Bangla Desh and the same thinking is still continuing while we the majority fghting to each other except to work to stopp the threat given by Jihadi's.
Re: Re: Re: in India there is Nehruvian type of secularism
by Umashanker Kapoor on Mar 26, 2009 06:26 PM
so you mean to say that we should bring to power a party who have leaders who rehortic, abuse reputed persons, challange govt to arrest them, telling Dr MMS that he is weak and spineless.
Re: Re: Re: Re: in India there is Nehruvian type of secularism
by ak on Mar 26, 2009 06:44 PM
my dear Kapoor, look inside yourself, no human being is 100%. therefore choose those who are closer to & work for the philosophy and interest of majority people of India .
Re: Re: in India there is Nehruvian type of secularism
by ak on Mar 26, 2009 05:29 PM
Varun is correcting the history because Gandhiji failed to support Sardar Patel for PM who was elected by 18 congress committees out of 24 all over the country but Gandhiji failed to support Sardar & wished for Nehru due to which Sardar withdrew his candidature for post of PM. Gandhiji's fondness for Nehru costed the nation so much as Kashmir failure, China's invasion, support of Caste based reservation, giving room for Jihadi's. Varun is doing the job which was sidelined by Nehru
Re: Re: Re: in India there is Nehruvian type of secularism
by Umashanker Kapoor on Mar 26, 2009 05:51 PM
during the press conference, post the CD exposure, he denied the speech shown in the CD and said that the CD was doctered, and he demanded why the CD was brought after about ten days. he said that the in the constituency of pilibhit the hindus are not safe, the "mukhiyas" are being threatened, that arms are being smuggled into ghetos, and there is drug being smuggled out. THEN WHY DID HE CHOOSE THE ELECTION PERIOD FOR EXPOSING THESE ACTS. WHY HE DID NOT POINT OUT TO THE AUTHORITIES CONCERNED THE THREATS TO HINDOOS AND THE "MUKHIYA", ARMS AND DRUG SMUGGLING, EARLIER DURING THE LAST FIVE YEARS. EITHER HE SLEPT DURING THE 5 YEAR PERIOD OR WANTED CHEAP PUBLICITY.
In India there is Nehruvian type of secularism tilt towards other sects except Hindus. Nehru has ignored Gandhi's & Sardar Patel's version of secularism. After the death of Gandhi & Sardar there was no one to stop Nehru. If we want true secularism for Hindus as well it requires complete transformation from present political system a departure from Nehruvian secularism.
EC is stooge of congree what those 3 understand when abu azmi amar singh mulayam and the likes of these stupid people speak against 80 % HINDUS where is EC SC HC
Re: EC
by meerazherali on Mar 26, 2009 05:25 PM
leave the election commissioner.May be he is bias but what about Highcourt?. We feel that high court judges are not competent to make a judgement. Remove high courts and have only Supreme court.Why unnecessary wasting public money.
Re: India requires VARUN
by Ash K on Mar 26, 2009 05:16 PM
People like you are either too DUMB or does not want to see the truth.. HE IS NOTHING BUT SOMEONE WHO WANTS TO TAKE THE SHORTCUT TO A POLITICAL CAREER MAKING THE COMMON PEOPLE FOOL !! AND THERE ARE PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO GIVE THEM A CHANCE !
Re: Re: India requires VARUN
by PEHCHANKAUN on Mar 26, 2009 05:19 PM
Ash, he should be given not one chance but several chances, you may not give but true Hindus will surely give. Furuew will tell that.
Re: Re: Re: India requires VARUN
by Ash K on Mar 26, 2009 05:36 PM
IF YOU WANT TO LEAVE AN INDIA TO YOUR CHILDREN WHERE PEOPLE BURN EACH OTHER IN THE NAME OF REILIGION.. THEN SUPPORT HIM..
WHEN OTHER COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD MAKING PROGRESS IN DIFFERENT SECTORS .. INDIA TENDS TO GO TOWARDS DARKNESS .. COURTESY CORRUPT AND SELFISH POLITICIANS!!!
Re: Re: India requires VARUN
by Allah Khaun on Mar 26, 2009 05:27 PM
who is a big fool people like us who support Varun who is with majority or people like you who support politicians who are against majority in the name of secularism and who have only looted the country since last 60 years. You yourself decide
Re: Re: Re: India requires VARUN
by Ash K on Mar 26, 2009 05:32 PM
I AM NOT SUPPORTING ANY POLITICIANS.. BUT YES I AM AGAINST VARUN GANDHI.. AND LET ME TELL YOU I AM A HINDU BRAHMIN BUT I DO NOT WEAR MY RELIGION ON MY SLEEVES.. I CAN THINK AND SEE WHO IS WRONG OR RIGHT.. YOU THINK HE IS WITH YOU AND WITH THE MAJORITY?? GIVE THEM YOUR VOTE AND THEN SEE HOW QUICKLY HIS SUPPORT DISAPPEARS!!
Re: Re: India requires VARUN
by Truth Teller on Mar 26, 2009 05:25 PM
Leadership ?? When did he have one. He is hardly Hindu. He is half Sikh, quater Parsi and quater Hindu and he talks about hinduism. And what has he done to deserve being a candidate other than belonging to Gandhi family. BJP then goes and talks about Congress being dynastic.
Re: Re: Re: India requires VARUN
by Allah Khaun on Mar 26, 2009 05:28 PM
Going by same criterion how a Sikh or a hindu like MMS or Amar singh etc. can talk about Islam. Please answer this question first than talk other things
Re: Re: India requires VARUN
by Siju Mathew on Mar 26, 2009 05:42 PM
Who is the true Hindu, Gujjar,Jat,Brahmins,Pandit,Kshatria,Nair, Namboori,Sindhi,Sheduled Cast,Sheduled Tribe, OBC. tell me.
Re: India requires VARUN
by meerazherali on Mar 26, 2009 05:29 PM
it is OK we need leaders like Varun but my friend other opportunist will take advantage of his speeches and try to flameup the communalism in the country.In my view No True Hindu or Muslim would like to kill or damage the Humanbeings.unnecessary on religion grounds.
Re: Re: HUH
by vishesh on Mar 26, 2009 05:26 PM
you forgot ot mention, even the Secular M0slems not voting for BJP and /shiv Sena are also going to suffer ...
Since the Supreme Court is not under the influence of the Mayawati led scheduled castes govt of UP(unlike the Allahabad High Court), there are bright chances that the unjustified FIR against Varun will be quashed by the SC!
Re: Re: Supreme Court will quash FIR !
by NIRMAL BALIA on Mar 26, 2009 05:21 PM
VARUN IS MARD A REAL MAED AND SON OF A REAL MARD BUT UNFOURTUNATELY A GANDHI GANDHI NAME IS CANCER TO INDIA AND INDIA PEOPLE
Re: Re: Re: Supreme Court will quash FIR !
by Loan Shark on Mar 26, 2009 05:24 PM
yes, a only real marad will swallow his sp1t by uttering inflammatory speech and then calling the recording tampered and disowning his words and then hiding in his mommy's pally, with nipple in mouth
Re: Re: Supreme Court will quash FIR !
by PEHCHANKAUN on Mar 26, 2009 05:27 PM
My dear, it costs only local call charges from CM's house to .... court, got it?? This all happens only in India
No way CEC Chawla will ensure Congress win Apropos It is baffling to note the government reject the CEC’s recommendation when Article 324(2) is emphatic that “the other ECs can be removed if the CEC approves their ouster.”
In the beginning, the Election Commission consisted of only the CEC. But the Congress (I) government just before the ninth general election appointed two more Commissioners in an attempt to compromise the independence of the Election Commission. It is curious how the amended rule (on January 2, 1990 by the National Front government), which restored the status quo ante, was negated and the multi-member body continued.
The Constituent Assembly had envisaged such disputes and had asked to constitute a collegium to decide on appointments such as the CEC, ECs to be above partisan politics. But the Administrative Reforms Commission cold-shouldered it. The Apex Court must be given the power to select CEC and ECs from the list given by the government taking the Opposition into confidence.
Hope the EC sticks to its rules and regulations rather than overstep its duties in the ensuing elections.
Re: Will EC conduct a fair and free elections
by Bjs Suseel on Mar 27, 2009 01:19 AM
Any institution in India is structured to insult citizen of India, EC is no exception
