This is not to support Varun Gandhi, if he has made those rabidly communal statements attributed to him. But the Congress party playing "holier than thou" is height of hypocrisy- just yesterday the news channels flashed that the ongress has left seats in Kerala for its allies- Mu slim League and Kerala Congress (which is a Christian party supported by the Ch urch!). Similarly the CPM is backing the Madani's PDP candidate! CPI & DMK had tie up with Mu slim league in TAmil Nadu! Similarly the Majlis and MIm type of paries or even the Kasmir parties are blatanly religion oriented! True Secularism means Religion is kept out of government and vice versa. One law for all! Nothing More Nothing less!!
Re: Why double standards??
by Mohammed imran on Mar 20, 2009 02:09 PM
May be you should see if Muslim league have made any comments like Varun about any other religion and give a complaint to the EC - Simple .. Why are you cribbing
Re: Re: Why double standards??
by Jai Babu on Mar 20, 2009 02:25 PM
Mohammed Irfan-Have u read the entire post?? And can by any stretch of imagination the Mu slim League be called a secular party??? We should ban all parties which vow to espouse the cause of only a particular community!! Boss India is still secular because the majority Hindu community is tolerant and secular! That is the point I was trying to make. The Ch urch in Mizoram and Nagaland and in certain cases in Kerala, can back candidates but the minute anyone talks about the majority community, hacles are raised. I howver do not condone the "words" that Varun Gandhi is supposed to have used, but the ferocity of the attack from all corners on Varun and the BJP is there for all to see. I rest my case
Re: Why double standards??
by Siju Mathew on Mar 20, 2009 02:15 PM
If u dont know the fact Dont misunderstand the public. I am not the person teach u what is right and not.
Due to Aunt Soniaji's mercifulness and broad mindedness, Varun has got some relief. If he has to grow fast in BJP and have a bright political career, he should seek political guidance of Rahulji and Soniaji.
Re: Re: Thank Soniaji
by eCran on Mar 20, 2009 02:08 PM
Media will not focus on all patriots, remember. Only ones from Gandhi family. And Varun is very much related to Aunt Soniaji. You should thank her.
Re: Re: Thank Soniaji
by MANI on Mar 20, 2009 02:14 PM
Aunty Sonia Mario wants to elminate Varun from politics, where is the ? of saving him. It is only the law protected him...
Re: Re: Thank Soniaji
by Ash K on Mar 20, 2009 02:07 PM
HE IS NOT A PATRIOT.. HE IS A SELFISH MORON WHO IS TRYING TO SECURE A VOTE BANK.. USING COMMON PEOPLE'S FAITH AND EMOTIONS FOR HIS PERSONAL GAIN !!!!
Re: Re: Re: Thank Soniaji
by Almighty on Mar 20, 2009 02:09 PM
Where is the Jecular Media by Abdul Jabbaar on Mar 20, 2009 12:50 PM Permalink | Hide replies
I regret not being a mufti. Had I been one, I would have issued just one fatwa that going with the BJP amounts to committing kufr.” That was senior Congress leader Imran Kidwai speaking at an election rally in Chandigarh on March 15, the BJP told the Election Commission on Thursday.
Kufr, it explained, is blasphemy and disbelieving in the Quran or in any tenets of Islam and a person practising kufr is a kafir.
A party that is still reeling under attacks following Varun Gandhi’s alleged “inflammatory remarks” against a community, stung the Congress on Thursday with a CD expose that shows the head of the Congress’ minority cell invoking Islam to seek votes for the ruling party’s candidate in Chandigarh. The CD was shown to journalists at the BJP headquarters.
When Kidwai spewed venom and sought votes on religious lines at a rally in the neighbourhood of Jama Masjid in the city, AICC in-charge for Punjab Mohsina Kidwai and party candidate and Union Minister Pawan Banswal were also present.
The BJP suspects that Kidwai’s words might have the Congress’ endorsement since the party has neither condemned nor distanced itself from the remarks of the senior party leader.
The BJP, which denied that the CD expose was a tit-for-tat reaction to the Varun Gandhi episode, has petitioned the EC to file a case against Kidwai. The BJP also wants the commission to act against the Congress for n
We have made tremendous achievement in science, now we know how the universe in formed, how old is the universe, we know all about the solar system, the sun and the moon, the galaxy and the stars. We have decoded the mistery of origin of life and how species have evolved. We have made tremendous achievement in mathematics and computers, and engineering. We have done tremendous achievement in medicine and many many deseases can be cure which used to be deadly previously. We have made tremendous achievement in communication and we can go to any part of the world at any moment. Mass media like television and internet has opened the entire world, and beyond to the common people. We may not know many things but the future generation will decode them. All these knowledge do not belong to one country or race. These are human achievements. But unfortunately, some of us are still fighting for some false belief, like God or Satan, some believe more in dogmas then logic, all in all some are still living in darkness, unaffected by the change the knowledge of science has brought. In this age of communication, computers, genetic engineering, robotics and so forth, do we really have to believe in something which cannot be proven?
Re: Do we really need religion in the 21st century?
by satya prakash on Mar 20, 2009 02:13 PM
pick your two sentences. 1.We may not know many things but the future generation will decode them 2.do we really have to believe in something which cannot be proven? I think Your first sentence is answering your second sentence.
Re: Do we really need religion in the 21st century?
by Aurangzeb YusufKhan on Mar 20, 2009 02:02 PM
If u don't need then fine..... WE NEED IT. AND NOBODY I REAPEAT NOBODY CAN DARE US TO SAY NOT PRACTICE OUR RELEGION.
Re: Re: Re: Do we really need religion in the 21st century?
by amit jain on Mar 20, 2009 02:09 PM
Sanjay, be careful. If he murders you, his paradise is assured.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Do we really need religion in the 21st century?
by Pranab M on Mar 20, 2009 02:13 PM
And also allah will curse sanjay , since he has to work his a s s off to produce 72 hoors.
Re: Re: Do we really need religion in the 21st century?
by JGN on Mar 20, 2009 02:14 PM
Aurangzeb YusufKhan, who all are included in this "we" ?? Do you include Salman Rushdie, Taslima Nasreen, Ali Sina, etc also in the list??
Re: Re: Do we really need religion in the 21st century?
by amit jain on Mar 20, 2009 02:06 PM
Aurangzeb, very scary name. Even his brothers were scared.
Re: Do we really need religion in the 21st century?
by satya prakash on Mar 20, 2009 02:10 PM
I pick your two sentences. 1.We may not know many things but the future generation will decode them 2.do we really have to believe in something which cannot be proven? I think Your first sentence is answering your second sentence.
Re: Re: Do we really need religion in the 21st century?
by Sanjay Baxi on Mar 20, 2009 02:17 PM
No it is based on our collective experience, previously we did not know many things like gravitation, and solar system, and protons and elctrons etc. But now we know them. Similarly many things will be known in future, which we do not know now. Believe me, if you are in science you will know we learning some new every day, in some part of the world. It is a continuous process. You picked only two sentences and ignored the rest. You know why?
Re: Do we really need religion in the 21st century?
by Gitesh Ganatra on Mar 20, 2009 02:14 PM
A little knowledge is dangerous especially for people who dont believe in the beauty of the universe, the world religion itself is not understood by many, its only being used to differentiate people rather than bringing them together which is irony to itself.
Re: Do we really need religion in the 21st century?
by harish sowkur on Mar 20, 2009 02:08 PM
Sanjay...remember even greatest scientist of our era..believed God..He used to read Bhagavad Geetha.. He always told..World is a set of definite incidents..It looks everything in this world have been well planned and executed by somebody whom we humans are not able to see..
Now Don't call Einstein a communal because he believed existence of Super natural power aka God.
Re: Re: Do we really need religion in the 21st century?
by Sanjay Baxi on Mar 20, 2009 02:13 PM
Good question, you know there is a difference between philosophy and religion. There is no harm in practicing philosophy, because it also involves logic, however it is not the cup of everyone's tea. What common people practice is religion, which is based on some crude belief systems, and which was created some clever people to control the mass and their money and land. I hope you have got the answer.
Re: Re: Re: Do we really need religion in the 21st century?
by satya prakash on Mar 20, 2009 02:20 PM
You are not correct regarding Sanatan religion which is above believe system and above your philosophy.
Re: Re: Re: Do we really need religion in the 21st century?
by JGN on Mar 20, 2009 02:16 PM
Dyed-in-the-wool faithheads are immune to argument, their resistence built up over the years of childhood indoctrination using methods that took centuries to mature (whether by evolution or design) - Richard Dawkins in "G0d Delusion".
Re: Re: Re: Re: Do we really need religion in the 21st century?
by satya prakash on Mar 20, 2009 02:25 PM
Where the arguments end faith begins.It is not the other way round.
Re: Do we really need religion in the 21st century?
by Ashwin Ramaswamy on Mar 20, 2009 02:03 PM
you are right . religion is nowadays being abused by everyone whether it be jijadis,zionists or bajrangis
Re: Re: Re: Re: WOW
by Drax P on Mar 20, 2009 02:13 PM
I meant COn-party does these con jobs repeatedly. Its not a big thing for them and I wont be surprised if they have a hand in it.
Re: y ?
by amit jain on Mar 20, 2009 01:59 PM
Because he is not Afzal Guru or Kasab. If he goes to jail, sympathy wave will ensure his victory. So, good for your brothers also.
Somebody hs written that we should focus on development and not religion.This theory may work in west but not here.Here religion is a way of life.People live with it.Most of our population believes in god and not just believe but live with it.So religion is insaparable part from us.We should be proud of our glorious past and our culture ,our literature or in a nutsell our way of thinking.Self Esteem is the only basis for regaining our lost position.mimicing others language and others way of thinking will only strengthen your complex.So beware of the party,people,school of thought who underestimate our past and our potential to regain the same. vande matram . Jai Sri Ram.
Re: Jai Sri ram
by Ash K on Mar 20, 2009 02:05 PM
When your RELIGION becomes your way of life.. then the problem starts.. You are talking about our cluture.. our culture does not teach us to hate people from other religion. Anybody who encourages HATRED on the basis of Religion does not deserve to be a leader..
Re: Re: Jai Sri ram
by sarang joshi on Mar 20, 2009 02:07 PM
MMS the PM is most communal..He says minorities have first right over resources..He divided the minority and majority
Re: Re: Jai Sri ram
by sarang joshi on Mar 20, 2009 02:08 PM
MMSthePM is mostCommunal He says minorities have first hand over resources.. He divided the people into minority and majority and also sidelined majority
Re: Jai Sri ram
by Ram Sharma on Mar 20, 2009 03:53 PM
I fully and strongly endorse your views! Both religion and development are important for human beings. After so much progress, the western world has realised the importance of religion and yoga. That is why they are turning to Hindusim in large numbers. It is a matter of regret that we Indians are the first to degrade and belittle our religion! All Hindus should vote for BJP! Make Varun the deputy Home Minister in the BJP govt now! Varun will be the best choice for PM in 2014/2019! JAI SHREE RAM!
