Myth : 3rd front will win Reality : Only the outcome tells the truth.
Myth : Advaniji is against muslims Reality : The driver of his famous rathyatra was a muslim.
Myth : Muslims are upset about destruction of babri structure Reality : A lot of muslims are happy since the place was forbidden by Islam & no one used it for more than 250 years
Myth : India is existing only since independence. Reality : India has been around since eternity.
Myth : Minorities are at disadvantage. Reality : The Xians ruled India for 250 years & Muslims for 750 years before that. Since independence Congis provided them enormous benefits for the political support.
Myth : Congis win because majority like them. Reality : Congis successfully established corrupt electoral machine & captured fixed 30% votes (20% minority 10% reservation). All you need is 35% to get ruling majority. And so remaining 5% are simply bought out or misguided.
Re: Myth & Reality....
by jack back on Mar 20, 2009 11:09 PM
Myth : Gandi family sacrificed a lot Reality : Gandi family sacrificed the national interest for power.
Myth : People support Congis for the country's betterment Reality : People support Congis to keep the unjust benefits they receive thru congis, including anti-national activities.
Myth : A lot of BJP people have cases against them & so they are bad REality : Congis like to file cases against opponents to make them look bad.
Re: Re: Myth & Reality....
by Mathew Mathews on Mar 20, 2009 11:41 PM
Myth : Minorities are at disadvantage. Reality : The Xians ruled India for 250 years & Muslims for 750 years before that. Since independence Congis provided them enormous benefits for the political support. - What support is that the Congi's gave Xian's( I dont want to talk about Muslims, because they do so themselves). All the educational and other institutions have been made with money donated by Xians. I didnt have any reservations in education or job or got any grants. I never want one nor do I need one. By your standards the reservation to SC/ST should make all of them vote INC and no one else.
Re: Re: Re: Myth & Reality....
by jack back on Mar 21, 2009 12:43 AM
Education has been one of the deep rooted traditions in India.Even invaders like Moghuls respected it.As per 'Time & Life' series on India(part of US library of Congress) one of the reason for rebellion in 1857 against British was they tried to destroy this more than 1200 years old continuous elementry education tradition spreaded all over India including in every villages. The system was supported by Govt. And so the non-Indian rulers already had manipulated it to their advantage, but these cunning British decided to destroy it for eacy colonization & looting of the country. When they did not succeed, the b* called Victoria came up with a clever idea of puting whole education base of India in British hand. And of course the church was the likely beneficiary for the project. The rest is the history.
Re: Re: Myth & Reality....
by Mathew Mathews on Mar 20, 2009 11:44 PM
Myth : Gandi family sacrificed a lot Reality : Gandi family sacrificed the national interest for power. - The Gandhi family sacrificed a lot much more than you have sitting in an armchair. There is no politician who has lost so many for the nation.
Myth : People support Congis for the country's betterment Reality : People support Congis to keep the unjust benefits they receive thru congis, including anti-national activities. - By your standards a majority of Indians are corrupt. Congi's have the largest voting % in India. I think you are the unscrupulous guy.
Myth : A lot of BJP people have cases against them & so they are bad REality : Congis like to file cases against opponents to make them look bad - Cases are filed when they do something wrong. BJP are also in power, why dont they files cases when other do wrong? Or is it all all bombastic words and no work.
Re: Re: Re: Myth & Reality....
by jack back on Mar 21, 2009 12:54 AM
Show me a single sacrifice by Gandi family & I will expose the Myth & Reality behind it.
Re: Re: Re: Myth & Reality....
by jack back on Mar 21, 2009 12:57 AM
Majority of Indians are not corrupt but desperate.And congis try to take political advantage out of it by selectively giving benefits to certain sections while depriving others.This way they try to create fissure within the country on the basis of Race,Religion,Region,Gender etc.And it is human nature to take it when received free.So I don't blame minority for getting any special benefits, but the Congis & their supporters are sure responsible for creating such a regressive policy.
Re: Re: Re: Myth & Reality....
by jack back on Mar 21, 2009 01:01 AM
If you truely & fairly look into the tradition of cases filed against BJP people you will know how right I am. A lot of Redcong criminals including terrorists are not charged for wrong doings while BJP people are charged for henious crimes for a minor & non-violent self-defense acts.And then they don't let those cases resolved in the court either. Case & point is Advaniji. He has several cases against him since Ayodhya movement & he is quite co-operating to resolve them (unlike Quatrocchi) and yet non of these cases has been resolved, simply to preven the truth from coming out & to take political advantage out of them.
Re: Re: Re: Myth & Reality....
by dead terrorist on Mar 21, 2009 12:06 AM
The Cogress is the most corrupt and moraly bankrupt party, loaded with almost illiterate members, and also rules the most backward, and lawless states in the Indian union.
Re: Re: Myth & Reality....
by Mathew Mathews on Mar 20, 2009 11:36 PM
Myth : 3rd front will win Reality : Only the outcome tells the truth. - True
Myth : Advaniji is against muslims Reality : The driver of his famous rathyatra was a muslim. -Doesnt mask the fact it was communal activity. You would have collaborators every where.
Myth : Muslims are upset about destruction of babri structure Reality : A lot of muslims are happy since the place was forbidden by Islam & no one used it for more than 250 years. - Maybe. The thing is this issue shouldnt have been a political one. BJP did it for power.
Myth : India is existing only since independence. Reality : India has been around since eternity. - There was never an India before British made one. There was empires and small princely kingdoms. Kerala, Tamil Nadu was never a part of any empire. As much as we dont like it,its the truth.
Re: Re: Re: Myth & Reality....
by jack back on Mar 21, 2009 01:06 AM
BJP never tried to use Babri issue for power. It was Rajiv(Roberto) Gandi who unlocked the structure merely for taking political advantage of Hindus, and BJP simply opposed it.
-Recently Kalyan Singh, who is hell bent against BJP, openly took full responsibility of destroying Babri Structure; and still both BJP & Advaniji has been blamed for all this time.
Re: Re: Re: Myth & Reality....
by jack back on Mar 20, 2009 11:54 PM
We need a nice history lesson here.Every point you are making here are covert misinformation created by JNU kind & Romilla Thaper kind people.
-First and foremost, the credit of making India does not go to Bitishers but to Sardar Patel. Britishers were shrewd merchants unethically backed by their rulers.They had taken the most princely states on contract to govern.At the time of independence they let all of them free waiting India to fall apart fighting each other. Thanks to Sardar Patel who successfully united all but one(Kashmir) including the ones ruled by Portugese(Div,Daman & Goa) and by French(Pondicheri).Kashmir was mischeviously left out by Neru with criminal intent.And then Neru subdued & disposed off Patel for doing such a wonderful job. If Patel was around, these mullahs would not have raped the country called Pakistan such a way.Both Advaniji & Modi share such a vigor of Sardar Patel.
Sir each and every point of yours can be argued against successfully, and I will do so as I get chance.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Myth & Reality....
by Mathew Mathews on Mar 21, 2009 07:11 AM
The task of creating India goes to the Britishers. Its because of their atrocities that all of us came together and kicked them out. Sardar Patel is an extremely capable man and he ensured we dont again split into many small states. I rebutted your points not to show that Congress is a absolute clean party. It has many faults. I consider other parties in India which is a bigger threat than Congress. I am sorry to say that BJP ( i will talk of it being the largest party after congress in parliment) is basically a fascist organization. They will show their true colors the day they have sole majority. I have read a lot of writings by the so called educated people. I can always read the hint of intolerence and racism and extreme prejudice just because Congress is headed by Sonia Gandhi. None of them had to hold the hand of the near ones when they were killed in cold blood. We can have an educated argument of facts. I dont believe in the left ideology or the history that they create. I am for my country to attain the destiny that is ours. I want my country where all citizens live in harmony and reaching the greatest country human kind has ever known. I want my country to be democratic, secular and republic and have a human hear not the in humaneness of communism/fascism and capitalism. It should be land were humans are treated with dignity and honor.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Myth & Reality....
by jack back on Mar 21, 2009 07:05 PM
I think I had a very correct answer to your point in my comment which was deleted by rediff. Some other time I will elaborate.
Re: Myth & Reality....
by Vishnu Sharma on Mar 22, 2009 04:14 AM
All your points are correct.
Our history has been completely distorted by Marxists and Pseudos who hate the very notion of India.
India was a United whole for many centuries under various empires: Maurya and Gupta to name a few.
Our influence spread beyond our shores and all across South Asia: Burma, Indonesia and Thailand to name a few countries.
We need to rename the Arabian Sea -> The Malabar Sea.
We Indians are being oppressed by the Marxist-Macaulite combo to the extreme.
But the days of freedom are not far away.
The NATIONAL DEMOCRATIC WORKERS PARTY has adopted the SHRIVATSA - Endless-Knot symbol for the same reason. It is an Indian Symbol which represents Unity and Eternity -> which is what India is and shall be for ever and ever.
Time for work. Plz. don't forget to vote out BJP and send Andvani Uncle back to Sind. From tomorrow. Advani has a new name. Mohhammmad Andvani Jinna. HaHa. The 82 year cheat will not be there after this election. Long Live my India. Jai Ho.
Re: Vote for BJP.
by dead terrorist on Mar 21, 2009 12:07 AM
This time do vote Congress so that it may return to power and protect corruption and terrorism
Re: ban third front
by nitin goswami on Mar 20, 2009 10:36 PM
Mayawati will try to support BJP after the elections. Others will support the UPA. Yes, You are also right to an extent or more.
Do you think BJP gets a 80
figure this time? If it does then Fashion
TV is waiting for Susuma Swara j BJP(Taliban) will leave terro. safely in
Afganistan and then demand for
hanging of Afzal. Do they think that
Hindus are fools? Sidhu has a murder case pending
against him. Modi has several cases against him. Andvani has several cases against him. Yeddu has the same.
Congis fool people in electioning gimmik, but they don't really care. Now they have their own syncophant corrupt CEC.
They have shown throrough & professional anti-national behaviour since Neru's time. Ind*ra Gandi even perfacted it; and yet they have been forming govenments.Sometimes even so called educated holding high professional degrees support these anti-nationals.The political leaders like Charan,Mulayam,Laloo,Pawar,Gowda etc. very sensitive about their pride, easily surrender to Gandi's feet and accept inhumane insults for the sake of little money which they would make anyway without supporting congis.
This is why Congi win..
20 % minority by extreme apeasement(Shah Bano,Haj subsidy,special treatment to Missionaries, etc...) 10 % gullible Indians base their voting on emotional issues like race,religion,region,gender etc. 5% buy out corrupts using national wealth.
All these are destructive for the nation & a rational analysis of post-independence India will explain it.
All they need is 35% popular vote to get ruling majority.Those who deeply care for the national well being, and want to defeat Congis,Psudo-Congis & Reds need to actively neutralize these 3 groups and this is how it can be done.
1. expose minority apeasement & its illeffect to as many people as possible. 2. Educate gullible folks about being misguided which is detrimental to the nation & ultimately to themselves 3. Create social embarrasement for the corrupts.
Re: Psudo congis(3rd frong) are sure in for a surprise.....
by nitin goswami on Mar 20, 2009 10:30 PM
Cong. worked hard to earn their way back. Its not like the last time when Cong. was no where. Sonia last time did road shows as she did not expect people to accept her and come in her rallies. Now Cong. is not anti-India or anti-any religion for sure. Though it was never.
Plz. read the below. Elect Advani of Babri Masjid fame and
Modi of Gujrat riots, Yeddu of beating
respected Indian women fame ,
Vajpayee of Petrol Pump alloation
scandal, George of Tehelka and Coffin,
Jayajaitle and Judev of bribe on
camera scam. Avoid Crying. The plot has failed.
Game over Taliban(BJP) Taliban(BJP) leaders while gaining
Re: numbers
by nitin goswami on Mar 20, 2009 10:18 PM
The only good thing is that they will never support BJP. But Mayawati should give a written assurity to them , that she will not do this too.
Re: Re: numbers
by chintan jhunjhunwala on Mar 20, 2009 10:29 PM
india does not consist of only orissa ,wb,kerela or tamil nadu there are alot of states where the nda is stron like gujarat,bihar,chhatisgarh,assam,maharashtra rajasthan and some parts of up,himachal pradesh punjabetc.this bardhan is fromthe fossilised age and do not forget that a lot of people came over to the indian side during the partition will not be surprised if half of wb left front is made of bangladeshis.the present cm of wb,jyoti basu i believe are of bangladeshi stock.the bengalis were kept brainwashed against industrialisation and work culture now the chickens are coming home to roost.
Re: Re: Re: numbers
by nitin goswami on Mar 20, 2009 10:34 PM
Forget Rajastan, Bihar, Assam, Maharastra. But BJP will surely do well in Gujrat, Jarkhand(All seats), M.P. , H.P. and nowhere else. Not also in Karnataka. Yeddu did the idiotic job with the women of the state . Else all was fine.
Paki will not be able to rule by Proxy. Just don't start abusing me like you
behave when you comment about
Sonia. If Andvani is a Paki, why do you
dislike his birth place discussion. You
better be proud of his roots. If Andvani wins this time. India will
become Jinna paradise or Pakistann. IN U.P. BJP will win 5 or less. In Bihar
Re: Vote for Mohhamad Andvani jinnna
by Annu Philip on Mar 20, 2009 10:34 PM
I 100% agree with you. If u see the scams happened during NDA rule was like of Coffin Scam... R these buggers patriots... hmm... Congress is better in all aspects. The Gandhi family is ment for the Nation. After Rajiv's assasination Sonia denied to come into politics but later came to politics for the party & for the Nation. She earlier didn't wanted even Rahul to come into politics. The family had sacrificed for the nation before n even ready today...
Re: Re: Vote for Mohhamad Andvani jinnna
by nitin goswami on Mar 20, 2009 10:39 PM
Sonia is a Gandhi Bahu and she campaigned last time round and brought Cong.back on the map of India with her shrewd political alliances. BJP was left dancing to India shining and
Re: Re: Re: Vote for Mohhamad Andvani jinnna
by nitin goswami on Mar 20, 2009 10:41 PM
India accepted the Cong. comeback. Noone knew that she will not become PM tomorrow. But she refused seeing what BJP was upto like Susuma thinking of going bald. She did not want to give any fuel to BJP and shall evil designs of BJP for ever.
