Can anybody show me a document which says that "more than 60,000 small and medium industries were shut" during Left rule? Just an evidence, a credible source, a link other than some political leaders speech published in newspaper!!!
Re: The figure 60,000
by Pravati Swain on Apr 30, 2009 12:49 AM
May be. In 2003 according to WBDIC statistics, the number of lean industries facing closure was 29,878. Now let us come out with reasons. Very many industries in WB are since pre-Independence time which never cared for their entry in the state-rolls. Most jute-cotton-based industries are now vanished. I may not be accurate, but can a guess like : 29,878 everything stated above, to make a total of 60 or 50 thousand, be wrong?
Re: Re: The figure 60,000
by Haramohan Roy on Apr 30, 2009 01:06 AM
The pre-independence industries could not survive due to changed economic realities. For instance, Dunlop closed down and the government of the state had no role in this. It is true that in the 60s and the 70s there were widespread labour unrest in the state, but that had the sanction and support of a huge number of people. Film makers like Satyajit Ray and Mrinal Sen, and many writers and playwrights openly espoused the cause of the labourers. It may not be wise to blame the left, because the left was only channelising the popular discontent. Add to this the proverbial laziness of the Bengalis in matters of trade and industry. Almost every Bengali knows a person who lost his business not because of any government, but because of his too much love for 'chakri' and lack of application of mind in business. Even a Bengali father would want to arrange his daughter's marriage with a Class 3 government employee instead of a small businessman.
Re: Re: Re: Re: The figure 60,000
by Haramohan Roy on Apr 30, 2009 12:10 AM
Whose PhD thesis? Mamata's? We remember that she used to write the letters 'Dr' before her name before the game was caught and it was known that she did not have a PhD!
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The figure 60,000
by Haramohan Roy on Apr 30, 2009 12:31 AM
Common perception? Whose common perception? Why so much hesitation to provide the source? Or, does the source not exist at all?
Re: Re: Re: The figure 60,000
by Sunita on Apr 30, 2009 01:25 AM
You communist dog, don't confuse people. Search in goole, you will find lots of reliable source for this statistics. It might be more than 60000...you communist dog.
Re: The figure 60,000
by Sunita on Apr 30, 2009 01:30 AM
Search in Google, you will find lots of reliable source. The problem of Communist is they never allow real information to go to people, as by nature the communist party is to suppress people's freedom. They only know to confuse people if people know the truth. If you live in WB for lats 25 years, if not comming from Bangladesh, should know this.
Re: Congress cannot be alternative to communists.
by Sunita on Apr 29, 2009 11:53 PM
Only party that can teach leason to Communist is Mamata Benergee. She know the language these communist understand. People those who don't know her may not like that, but she the most honest politician in India, who leave in a mud hut till now.
Re: Re: Congress cannot be alternative to communists.
by Rajarshi Sengupta on Apr 29, 2009 11:59 PM
Her brothers were jobless twenty years back. Now, all of them have got 3 storied buildings & a fat bank balance. She enjoys Z category security. All her rooms are air-conditioned. Lalu Yadav also used to stay in servants quarter in 1990 till 1993.
Only party that can bring WB back to its glory days is BJP, a party founded by a Benagali-ShyamaPrasad Mukharjee. Of course RedCongs have successfully put the people in a state of confusion & can not think beyond a limit.But sooner they(the people) realise to bring BJP for governance sooner they will benefit.
The Congress has openly supported open economy and privatisation, while Trinamool has openly opposed these measures. Till only a couple of months ago, Trinamool leaders openly ridiculed the Congress leaders. Now, suddenly, they are united. It may not be wise to think that people will take such opportunism lightly. In spite of the recent aberrations of the West Bengal government in some respects (for example Rizwanur case and the firing at Nandigram), Mamata may not be accepted by the majority of the people. The contribution of the left in the filed of agrarian economy is too well-known to deny. The World Bank, for example, repeatedly admired the speed and spirit with which the land reforms have been fone in West Bengal under the left, which has given money and power to the rural poor. It is unimaginable in West Bengal that a single man will have hundreds of acres in his name, but it is very common in most other states. The greatest limitation of the left has been to back up the land reforms with later industrialisation. But, when they started - which was very late - Mamata played the spoilsport and placed all sorts of unreasonable demands, as a result of which the project was lost. At the end of the day, it may not be too easy to defeat the left in West Bengal. One has to remember that apart from huge organised party machinery, left also enjoys a tremendous support among the educated intellectual sections - although Trinamool has now started to encroach, but only a little.
Can someone tell me HOW do the communists keep coming back to power over and over when its SO obvious they are ra-ping west bengal? Is it because their crooks don't allow free adult franchise (a hallmark of communism around the globe - once they come to power, they stay on by any means) or that they've had the peoples franchies for the last 3 decades??
by Sunita on Apr 29, 2009 11:50 PM
Do you know the situation of rural WB is worse than Bihar. The communist don't get vote in Cities but in rural areas because they know vary well how to suppress poor people. But thes goons always sing song for poor in front of Media. In rural WB, people go to Communist party office rather then going to Police station for any complain. The rural WB leavs in 18th Century now. That is the power of Communist. As long as they can supress your mind and freedom, they should be alive.
by Haramohan Roy on Apr 29, 2009 11:51 PM
Repeatedly, there have been central government's visiting teams but they have not found malpractices worth reporting for. You may remember that in the 2001 assembly polls Mamata was very sure of victory since the polling was done directly under the NDA-led central government surveillance. In that year, the left won in more seats than in 1996. The left's huge support-base comes from two sections. First, the rural poor, who have benefited from total land reforms and Bargadar records (by which almost all landless labourers got land which were taken away from the rich land-owners), and seconf, the city-based educated intellectual class - the leading writers, playwrights, film-makers etc (Satyajit Ray openly endorsed the left values). However, there have been some erosions in both these two sections for the last two years. However, it remains to be seen whether Mamata will be accepted by the people, since she has always been very unpredictable.
by Thomas Mathew on Apr 29, 2009 11:43 PM
Its partly because they do intimidate voters and involve in large scale scientific rigging. But thats not the only reason why they win, they have real support from the people, Bengalis have a real connection with the leftist ideology.
The only option is to divide Bengal once again. Interestingly, that may happen with the formation of Gorkhaland and the inclusion of a few bordering districts into Jharkhand. Jaswant Singh is promising exactly that and contesting from Darjeeling.
Re: Re: CPI(M) is here to stay in Bengal
by Dr Dang on Apr 29, 2009 11:55 PM
Communists are not supposed to believe in Gods. But then, the Bengalis are fake communists and they can't disown Durga Puja.
Communists ruled for 32 years continuously in West Bengal. Now you compare the overall development in WB with the other states like Punjab, Maharashtra, AP, Karnataka, TN, MP, Rajasthan, Gujarat etc where communists never ruled and their dominance is minimal. This comparition alone is enough to throw the Communists into Bay of Bengal. It is a failed, out dated ideology and got rejected in many other places.
Re: Re: Enough is Enough.
by Sunita on Apr 29, 2009 11:33 PM
I agree, i can remember Bengalies are once told that, What bengal think today, the rest of India think it tomorrow. But now it will be What India think today, bengalies will think it after a Decade!! The culprit of this is Communist, Union, CITU, Janda Baji...so on
Re: Enough is Enough.
by Soura Talukder on Apr 29, 2009 11:53 PM
Why Some Bloody non bengalies are so concerned about West Bengal?When farmers commited mass suicide in your state,what happen to your bloody voice mr Kesireddy?