Vidisha I think u got me wrong here. I think its my duty to speak out against communalism and extremism. U should bear in mind that I have condemned both muslms and h@du terorists which u haven’t done. If u find my posts here which vilify the rss as offending then that’s ur problem bcoz rss needs to be viilifed bcoz of their h@&e toward us. If u get offened by abuses so much I’m surprised how u can support varun who gave a speech full of abuses aren’t ur double standards seen here???
Re: @vidisha
by Vidisha on Apr 30, 2009 12:22 PM
I havent mentioned anything about supporting Varun. I just said Kasab is worse than him. And you didnt agree to it. Why? I wont comment on that, clearly the lives of 100s of dead people doesnt matter in front of Varun's 'speeches'.
More importantly, you have used certain words specifically targetted to offend me. I stil didnt hit back the way I could have. Remember, learning abuses is not a skill but anyone can pick them up and throw them around.
Jail Varun if you can, but why are you comparing him to a guy who went on a shooting frenzy in broad daylight? Even if I dont support Varun, I despise Kasab. If that makes me and my entire family RSS, so be it. I dont care.
Re: Re: @vidisha
by Imran on Apr 30, 2009 12:30 PM
If u think only if a person goes to jail then he is guilty is not right, what is important is your conscience.I can revert only angrily when someone asks me to leave a country which I love. My only aim here is to make the people realize the true intentions of fascist organizations.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: @vidisha
by Against Pseudos on Apr 30, 2009 12:41 PM
Imran Khan:
Currently the deficiency in interpreting the English language is purely being demonstrated by you. Vids asked you a direct question about condmening Kasab; and you came back with a clear cut answer that you DON'T WANT TO CONDEMN HIM.... :)
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: @vidisha
by Vidisha on Apr 30, 2009 01:01 PM
Ashram education is very good Imran, I will try that in my next life. Thanks for reminding us.
Re: Re: Re: @vidisha
by Vidisha on Apr 30, 2009 01:00 PM
Imran, do you mean to say I will have a conscience only when I stop spamming the forum like you? Ah, too bad I dont think like you. But I will send Varun a letter of hatred, will that do?
Re: Re: Re: @vidisha
by Against Pseudos on Apr 30, 2009 12:34 PM
Imran Khan:
Yeah... I appreciate coz I care about the free entertainment.... if we won't appreciate, you'll go away, and then who will provide us the entertainment?.... :)
Vidisha I think u got me wrong here. I think its my duty to speak out against communalism and extremism. U should bear in mind that I have condemned both muslms and h@du terrorists which u haven’t done. If u find my posts here which vilify the rss as offending then that’s ur problem bcoz rss needs to be viilifed bcoz of their h@te toward us. If u get offened by abuses so much I’m surprised how u can support varun who gave a speech full of abuses aren’t ur double standards seen here???
Re: @vidisha
by Against Pseudos on Apr 30, 2009 12:29 PM
Imran Khan:
You "say" you have condmened appropriately.... hmmm... let's test you...
Is Varun right about Kasab being given undue pampering?.... or is Kasab right and he should be pampered for doing us a good turn of reducing our population?....
Re: Re: @vidisha
by Imran on Apr 30, 2009 12:39 PM
Hang kasab publicly people who k@ll innocents have no place in society and also those who spread h@te
What Varun is briefing about his jail sentence and about Congress is not his own but he is reading the statement prepaared by RSS/BJP big wigs. There is no surprise it is expected in this election time. But from all these provocative statements on others and govt. BJP's image is fading instead of benefitting BJP is loosing the battle here. The dream of Advani and his last wish as a Priminister will remain unfulfilled that is a bad news for Advani and his Bharat Jalo Party (BJP). hehehe hehehe heheehe ahahahahahah
Re: Varun
by galilio on Apr 30, 2009 12:09 PM
CONGRESS OFFERS BANK LOAN TO MINORITIES EDUCATIONAL LOAN 3% P A,TERM LOAN 6% P A WHILE FOR MAJORITIES,IT IS DOUBLE.THIS IS CALLED AS SECULARISM. WHAT ABOUT POOR SLUM PEOPLE OF MAJORITY RELIGION.THEY HAVE TO PAY INTREST THROUGH NOSE. WHICH SUCH DISCRIMINATION TO SHOW FIRST PRIORITY AND FIRST RESOURCES ONLY TO MINORITIES- POOR IGNORANT HINDUS
Re: Re: MODI-FICATION
by Imran on Apr 30, 2009 11:53 AM
Magsaysay Award winner Sandeep Pandey pointed out that possible links between Hindutva radicals and certain terror attacks urgently needed to be probed. He critiqued the growing military and ‘counter-terrorism’ collaboration between India, Israel and the United States, as well as the manufacturing of the image of M*slims as ‘terrorists’ which global powers are propagating so assiduously in order, among other things, to boost their weapons industries.
Re: MODI-FICATION
by Imran on Apr 30, 2009 11:42 AM
H*ndutva is identical with fascism’, declared the noted social activist and Arya Samaj leader Swami Agnivesh. ‘The RSS is the single major source of strife and danger to the unity and prosperity of India’, he announced. He argued that Hindutva was a formidable threat to the H*ndus themselves, and that it aimed not just at the suppression of M*slims and Christians but also of the so-called ‘lower’ castes, who together form the vast majority of the Indian population. H*ndutva terrorists, he said, ‘are a blot on the face of India and the H*ndu religion’. He also castigated the Congress for providing covert support to H*ndutva fascism, and argued the need for a new, united political struggle for social justice and communal harmony and against capitalist depredation and H*ndutva fascism.
Re: Re: agenda of fascists
by Imran on Apr 30, 2009 11:32 AM
In the last four years of Congress-led rule, he noted, groups like the RSS, the Bajrang Dal and the Vishwa Hindu Parishad and their allied social and cultural outfits have made rapid inroads across the country, ‘so much so that today there is hardly a village in India where they do not operate’. He also argued that many of the terror attacks and bomb blasts that have occurred in India in recent years might have been orchestrated by H*ndutva groups in order to justify attacks on M*slims and Christians, whip up H*ndu sentiments and thereby consolidate their vote-bank.
I didn’t bring up our oppressed status I was replying to a person who told we get special treatment so I showed him how special we are. If u want a h@du rule u can go to Nepal and enjoy .
Re: @vidisha
by Vidisha on Apr 30, 2009 11:33 AM
Imran, you have talked about your oppressed status in not one, but many discussion boards, and now dont lie. And you have always finished with the same tune that you are voting for the lesser evil. Dont lie about that either.
Secondly, I havent said I wanted a Hndu rule. Earlier you were delusional but now you are also putting words in my mouth, which is another sick attribute.
Thirdly, Nepal is no longer a Hndu country. Update your knowlegde.
And last of all, I would choose to live in a country where I am the majority. I am only suggesting you can do the same instead of whinging.
Have you seen me whinging yet that you are prescribing medication for me ;-)???
Re: Re: @vidisha
by Imran on Apr 30, 2009 11:38 AM
Yes I have raised this point to counter the charge from sanghis who always propagate that muslms are appeased .In the same way I never supported pak or afgan for me to shift base there
Re: Re: Re: Re: @vidisha
by Imran on Apr 30, 2009 11:50 AM
Vidisha pls tak the truth when did I talk abt muslms being oppressed . SO anyone complainig abt india should move out of this country wow what logic u have shows your inherent ha@e towards muslims I’m sure u are a good candidate to join the rss now.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: @vidisha
by Priyank Singh on Apr 30, 2009 12:11 PM
Your comments dont seem to make any sense. Are you trying to justify democracy and politics with the treatment of Mu*lims in this country? Being an indian and being here since birth, i have not seen any single community or sect not being subjected to hatred or violence. You can not live in a perfect world all the time, you always need to choose a middle path. All else is extremism!
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: @vidisha
by Vidisha on Apr 30, 2009 12:03 PM
Imran, didnt you say Muslms are sandwiched between BJP and Congress? Didnt you say they are discriminated? Your messages are all marked as abuses so I cant copy paste now. In future I will make it a point to do so.
Now. I already said that India is a country for those Muslms who think India has given them something good. So there goes your theory of me hating the muslms - down the drain. :-) Yes I do hate radicals - does every Muslm fall in that category as per your logic?
I dont care much about politics but I do care about biased souls like you who are spamming this forum incessantly. How many posts have you put in here just villifying others? How many posts did you put down here just raving and ranting about others?
Lastly you are getting quite good with abuses like your fellow brothers here.
Yes I understand Imran, India has failed you terribly and you have no choice but to vote for a lesser evil.
Oh but you do have a choice, leave India. Just like the oppressed H1ndus have left Pakistan and Bangladesh and still leaving.
Dont you think this is the best solution for people cribbing like you? I mean we also have satisfied Musl1ms in India. This is home for those Musl1ms, not whingers like you cos we can never make you happy.
One behalf of India I apologize. Now you can look for greener pastures. I clearly dont see any point in staying in India and being so prejudiced. If you cannot be grateful for anything tihs country has given, then you are free to walk out of the door.
All I have been listening to since the last few weeks is your complaints on how India has failed you. I understand you would have been in a much better position in Pakistan Afganistan or Bangladesh.
We are helpless really. I dont see any way of convincing you. I can only talk to those Musl1ms who think India has given them something, however meagre it might be.
Re: @ Imran
by Imran on Apr 30, 2009 11:31 AM
don’t take the view of rss supporters like u facts matter more than anything else the fact is u people propagate lies that we are appeased to get votes but I showed u that is not the case. Muslms have fought for indepenedence not your rss pracharaks so they deserve to be here more than u
Re: Re: @ Imran
by Vidisha on Apr 30, 2009 12:10 PM
My RSS pracharaks? Yes my ancestors did fight for the freedon, contrary to your beliefs. ;-) So does that make me eligible for posting?
You know ZILCH about me or my family so zip up before you do further damage to yourself.
Re: Re: Re: Re: @ Imran
by Vidisha on Apr 30, 2009 12:24 PM
Ok. I have never voted for BJP till now, but in future I will. Happy? Now your worries will be lessened knowing your wishes about me being a BJP supporter are coming true.
Re: Re: Re: @ Imran
by Vidisha on Apr 30, 2009 12:11 PM
Against Pseudos,
You know the funniest part here? They conveniently forget, that after fighting for independence they immediately asked for a separate Eeslamic nation for themselves. Now they are just freedom fighters when we can also term them country-dividers. LOLZ!!!
Re: Ye Varun tho phir se andar jaaye ga!
by Against Pseudos on Apr 30, 2009 12:15 PM
Quite funny really. This is a perfect example of the "sophisticated" moderation software put in by Rediff.... :)
Where such harmless messages as the above paragraph get deleted for no rhyme or reason.
Re: Re: Ye Varun tho phir se andar jaaye ga!
by Against Pseudos on Apr 30, 2009 12:18 PM
What does it take to make the moderator allow at least "something" to go past the stringent software?