Mr. Pitroda is absolutely right; India’s internal market is very large. Education, Drinking water, Health, Roads, better agro-yield and marketing system, by itself are billion rupee businesses. Besides it will generate enough employment at all levels. No multinational agencies will be interested to invest in such sectors and, and Govt funding and perhaps expertise from Private sectors could easily turn around the growth rate.
if the kangi govt. comes back to power for another five years we will still be talking about eradication of poverty inthe next elections.who is that idiot sitting in washington dc not knowing the ground realities.
Re: kangi
by dudehere on Apr 22, 2009 10:15 PM
kaangi governments manifesto for the year 2050 eradication of poverty. we r pro poor(rahul gandhi) majority(muzz) has right to nations resources. need another 5 years to make mumbai into shanghai....
It is so bad that none of the guys down below have spent some time over the report above. Sam Pitroda was the one who revolutionized telecom in India during Rajivji's time and later too. The story of Sam Pitroda itself is the story of economic and intellectual development of India over the decades. This gentleman with his vision has changed the scene of tele talks in India. People like Kalam Saheb, Sam Pitroda, our PM MMS and his team of economists are stars of Indian polity. Soniaji did wonderful things to this country as the president of Congress party which won independence to this great nation. They never advised communal divide, hatred and misleading informations to the public. Their life is clean and exemplery. But some people take feel great by killing, raping, destroying week and meek people of minority communities in India. They want their golden days back by hook or by crook. They are instigating and misleading the youth of this nation which they can not control later. Therefore, this election has given a golden chance to throw out the communal parties.Thanks.
Re: sam
by dudehere on Apr 22, 2009 10:06 PM
if kaangi was so much focussed about development.. no poverty shud have been there... coz they ruled us for 50 years....
Re: sam
by Manoj Gaur on Apr 22, 2009 10:15 PM
Plz go and have a better sleep.Congress is such party which is winning just because of appeasement of minorities.just saying BJP is communal doesn't means you are exceptional party. you are more dangerous party than other party..now time has changed man...peoples are wise this time. be ready for defeat...you and ur Mr. MMS
I am not very political yet not ignorant too. But in the last 1 month I am constantly seeing rediff publishing articles @ people who have been directly and indirectly canvassing for the COngress. Like this Sam Pitrodia for example........I mean what work did he do that revolutionalized the telecom industry. My home was first connected with a BSNL landline in 1997......and to imagine that we applied for that in 1990.....took us 7 years....then also even to get a dial tone took around 1 min of holding the phone out of the cradle......even if its connected mant a times it was cross connection. I remember that it was during Vajpayee ji's tenure that we heard more @ computers and mobiles and laptops. Tapan Sikdar the then telecom minister commissioned many telephone exchanges across the country (highest by any telecom minister till date)......we had optical fibre lines instead of cables.
I mean rediff is right to publish views but it must be a balanced view. In the last 1 month I have not seen or heard any one BJP or CPM leader being discussed in this forum. This is not right. Let us have many views and unbiased balanced views. That is what we mean by freedom of Press.
Re: Plz explain
by Suraksha on Apr 23, 2009 01:30 AM
Debashish I am not entering a political debate about credits but have some points for you to consider: -Your example of your agony with a BSNL line is anecdotal evidence (just because it happened to you or a bunch of people known to is not a fair comprehension to apply linearly about state of affairs). - It also does not provide a picture of the telecom industry - It is indeed a fact that even though mired with corruption brought in MTNL , the IT policy and the Software policy in 1986. MTNL brough lines into far rural areas and connectivity that was previously non existant. Note the debate is not about quality or how fast- but that he did.
- If nothing else you can thank Sam Pitroda from the yellow PCO booths that laid foundation to provide inexpensive public calls
I am not a fan of Congress, but at the same time would not criticize everything they do for the heck of it. It is not an all or nothing deal.
It is a view in politics. Learn to absorb it and make informed decisions.
Re: Plz explain
by uday on Apr 22, 2009 10:07 PM
exactly, it was only corruption & babu-raj during the congress rules. congress never had a vision for the nation.
in 1945 after the World War 2, all nations were on the same level, ravaged in fighting each other. this is the real reason why Britishers left India in 1947.
but see the progress of USA, Japan, Europe, USSR even Korea, China which started late. But India remained backward even 60 years after 1947(i won't call it independence, it was mere transfer of power). The reason for its backwardness is that Congress ruled the nation for 50 or more of those 60 years both in states & center.
Re: Plz explain
by Dildar Singh on Apr 22, 2009 10:03 PM
rediff are stooges for congis..they have to earn salary somehow...even if by posting and patronising similar stooges for congis
this man is a zilch. what has he done ?. he is the self-proclaiming man regarding the telecom revolution. getting a phone connection during the congress rule was like fetching stars from the sky. there were hardly 1-2 connections in the entire locality & STD calls used to cost in hundreds.
i don't know why the congress party propogates such blatant lies & fools the nation.
the real telecom & computer revolution was brought by the BJP govt when the mobiles & computers became affordable to the masses.
during Rajiv Gandhi rule, even a billionaire would have thought ten times before purchasing a computer then as the computers costed in lakhs. only in the BJP rule after 1998, the computer became affordable for the middle class. i also pruchased computer in 1999 when the prices were affordable for me.
Re: Sam Pitroda has affiliation with Congress like Nawin Chawla
by Maximus Meridius on Apr 22, 2009 10:07 PM
What you say is true even in the US. Computers used to cost $10,000 in the 1980s. So, it's got nothing to do with the BJP; they just happened to be in power. Also, computers were getting cheap through the 1990s. Just because you bought yours in 1999 doesn't mean BJP had anything to do with it. Slashing of import duties, essential to cheap computers since we don't make any hardware, was done by Manmohan Singh and P. Chidambaram, before the BJP came to power. Even without that, the main driver for cheap computers was cheaper hardware, due to technological improvements. The same is true for telephone as well.
STD in India was overpriced, but a phone connection was difficult to get. Nehruvian socialism is to blame for this for sure. Pitroda came up with the idea of PCOs, where people without phone lines could still make long distance calls. Is it great? I don't know, but it's better than not having anything. Privatization of the telecom sector would have been a better route, but we were and still are stuck in socialist dogma.
Re: Re: Sam Pitroda has affiliation with Congress like Nawin Chaw
by Dildar Singh on Apr 22, 2009 10:15 PM
Yes BJP have got to do a lot for it coz they opened FDI. without which it'd have failed and they brought up local industrys like wipro
Re: Re: Re: Sam Pitroda has affiliation with Congress like Nawin
by Maximus Meridius on Apr 22, 2009 10:27 PM
Are you crazy? Wipro has been around for ages. After George Fernandes kicked IBM out of INdia (along with coke) as part of the Jan Sangh government, Wipro had been responsible for maintaining IBM machines. Then the Y2K bug thing happened in the early 1990s, and TCS, WIPRO and Infy cashed in. Learn your history...
BJP is responsible for the golden quadrilateral project, selling of PSUs (a good thing), further de-regulating telecom to allow private participation. I give BJP points for the cellphone thing, to the extent that they deregulated the market, and private parties took care of the rest.
BJP though had nothing to do with the falling prices of mobile phones. This was the chief driver of the mobile revolution. BJP had nothing to do with the rise of the Internet or the falling price of an internet connection. BJP had nothing to do with the falling cost of computers. This would've happened if any sane political party was in power (that means, no CPI, CPI(M), SP, BSP and so forth).
Understand this: Any system has an Inertia. BJP reaped the benefits of stuff the congress did before them, and Cong reaped benefits of what BJP did before them. Most policies take years to show their complete effect, well after a government is gone.
Pitroda is canvassing for congress here, for sure. That doesn't mean he is lying or congress did nothing when in government.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Sam Pitroda has affiliation with Congress like Na
by uday on Apr 22, 2009 10:33 PM
you idiot then leave the things to USA.
why have a govt in India then. let the United nations takeover India!!!!!!!!!!!!
the relative performance of the BJP & Congress makes BJP 100 timed better than the Congress.
Ask Congress why did they stop the Golden Quad & NE-SW corridors project ????? All they did was to bribe the defaulting farmers in the name of loan waiver and making fun of the poors & starving villagers by fooling them in the name of giving 100 days of employment while the year comprises of 365.25 days to be precise.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Sam Pitroda has affiliation with Congress lik
by Maximus Meridius on Apr 22, 2009 10:38 PM
Golden quadrilateral is nearing completion. Please read a book and get your facts straight. I am not political, and I believe both parties have done good and bad things. I'm not trying to defend the congress, but you clearly need to get your facts straight. There's a difference between a policy causing an effect (like telecom, or liberalization in general), and coincedence.
Re: Re: Sam Pitroda has affiliation with Congress like Nawin Chaw
by uday on Apr 22, 2009 10:23 PM
you gave answer to your question only. International prices are the ones on which you don't have any control on but what about the Import duty ?.
Please find out the IMPORT DUTY on computers during the Rajiv Gandhi rule !!!!!. Only BJP decreased the Import Duty after 1998 & rationalised it so that the mobiles & computers became acesible for us. i praise BJP for it, for having a vision.
Computers became prominent the world over in the time of Rajiv Gandhi. What role he had in it. Did he invent computers so that we may be thankful of him ?. Bloody myth the congress people propogate & portray such ordinary & mediocre person like Rajiv Gandhi like a God. Its the reason why i hate Congress so much.
BTW, Europe & USA went cellular in the mid-80s while we had baburaj to have a landline in the congress rules(even during 1991-1996).
Re: Re: Re: Sam Pitroda has affiliation with Congress like Nawin
by Maximus Meridius on Apr 22, 2009 10:34 PM
Import duties were slashed by Manmohan singh and later P Chidambaram. Liberalization was started by Manmohan singh, remember? BJP was pro-swadeshi in that period, and by the time they came to power, they realized how good liberalization was, and continued it. Well done. But don't claim they did everything, which is a lie.
"Computers became prominent the world over in the time of Rajiv Gandhi" Wrong. Computers picked up after the internet came on line. The so-called dot com boom in the late 1990s. Economies of scale brought prices crashing down. By then, india had cut import duties tremendously, as part of WTO and GATT treaties. Please read a book before shooting your mouth.
Cellphones came to India in the early to mid 1990s. They were expensive (I believe Rs 5 per min) so not many could afford it, but as a child, I remember my father's company giving him one in 1995. BJP opened up the telecom sector, I agree. NOT the computer business. Get your facts straight.
MMS is good for nothing. what if you have a clear image? his image might be more clear when Swiss bank will disclose the name of cheaters :). this is very clear that state running by BJP are doing much much better than state goverened by Congress.look the progress of Capital in last 10 years. Progress is very slow. Flyover works , road construction work are so slow.
I guess , BJP did better during their regime and becuase of Atal, India could do better..
Please vote for BJP for complete Manadate and finish Cong forever..
India's economic growth is on autopilot, like most other growing economies. This is an era of global opportunities for most of the developing countries. Many developing countries are growing faster than India. India's nearest rival China is growing at 12% compared to India's growth of 9% as of 2007. What has Dr Manmohan Singh to do with it? Just google search on economic growth data and you will find where does this highly qualified economist, Dr Singh stand on economic front compared to heads of other developing countries.
India's economies growth took a momentum during NDA rule despite extremely adverse conditions. On the other hand, UPA started with rosy conditions but failed to carry on the momentum as evident from the competitive economic data.
From the population of 30 crores we have increased to 120 crores and so the need s of people is ever increasing and still changing.It not simple to rule our country and needs a very strong Head of State, who is accewptable to all people,is responsible and sincere in delivering on priority.Every thing to be reviewed- Education, Health and Shelter to name few.We are not a kingdom where Dynasty folloiws - no matter what they carry out. A referendum will do.We have educated masses available to plan and write the needs like the way our constitution was derived in 1948. Siva
