Every body have migrated from other countries at different periods of time to India for the past 5000 years and intermingled with existing races Every body have migrated from other countries at different periods of time to India for the past 5000 years and intermingled with existing races. The Census should not ask for religion which is a persons individual faith. The census should ask for language, caste which are not easily changeable. The option "no religion" has to be opted in all forms and census in India just like before 1830 when there was no census. The census should not ask for religion. We must not demonise any religion, language, caste, race, nation, status etc which are man made.We all people of the world and our country have common ancestor and we all are relatives irrespective of religion, language, caste, race, nation, status etc. The scientists have confirmed this fact medically. The people of India belong to different anthropological stocks. The population of India & Indian subcontinent is derived from six main ethnic groups and others: Negrito, Pro-Australoids, Mongoloids, Dravidian, Western Brachycephals, Nordics or Indo-Aryans etc etc settled from different times and now it is mixed race. So we must not do violence/kill our own human relatives for sake of religion, language, caste, race, nation, status etc. We have a secular constitution and all are equal. All Indian are sons of soil and original inhabitants of our Great Country India & have equal rights
Re: Every body have migrated from other countries at different pe
by johnny goode on Apr 22, 2009 12:04 AM
inbred animals namely you inbred muzzee KNOW NOTHING of ancient Bharat civilization and YOU WIll be KEPT in the DARK go espouse your history to the inbred Urdu speakers and the pther arab SLAVES (Madinga's) and your Arab Masters in Saudi Arabia now thats Your ancient History in Reality not your fantasy land Filth groups did not migrated they Butchered the NATIVE inhabitants and Stole the lands of Bharat that is why we have Pak, Bang, Tibet... to name a few
Re: Every body have migrated from other countries at different pe
by Bharatwasi on Apr 21, 2009 07:50 PM
That's all true. The trouble only started after MSL rule about 800 years back, when people were tortured for religion. Now, it will take long time to heal the religious gap unless MSL leaders move forward. But, they go backward by supporting terrorists
Re: Re: Every body have migrated from other countries at differen
by johnny goode on Apr 22, 2009 12:11 AM
Dumb animal(muzzee) Urdu people are bred from Rapes and Incest for generation to get them in their present forms Present day science have CONFIRMED you can Breed people like you Breed DOGS You INBREED dogs to FIGHT ITS ALL REALISTIC in the REAL World You Muzzees do not know of the Real World you ALL live in the World of the Inbreds
Re: Re: Every body have migrated from other countries at differen
by IndianIndian on Apr 21, 2009 07:53 PM
Hindi people and Urudu people are relativesArtificiallyseperated While, at the spoken level, Urdu and Hindi are considered dialects of a single language (or diasystem), they differ vastly in literary and formal vocabulary; where literary Urdu draws heavily on Persian and Arabic, literary Hindi draws heavily on Sanskrit and to a lesser extent Prakrit. The grammar and base vocabulary (most pronouns, verbs, adpositions, etc.) of both Urdu and Hindi, however, are the same and derive from a Prakritic base. The associated dialects of Urdu and Hindi are known as "Hindustani". This shows the present day Hindi people and Urudu people are relatives artificially seperated by Relegions.. Also the Muslims of India are Original Sons of Soil forcefully or voluntarily became Muslims and They who are Original Indians and our relatives and should be treated equally, because they are sons of soil.
Re: Re: Re: Every body have migrated from other countries at diff
by Bharatwasi on Apr 21, 2009 08:15 PM
very wrong! Urdu is completely a hybrid language whereas Hindi has its origins in Sanskrit. It is perfectly possible to speak good Hindi without use of even a single word from Urdu. It only appears similar, because MSL leaders ruled north india for long time and locals understand quite a good words from urdu and farsi. But, etymologically, their origins remain different.
Re: Every body have migrated from other countries at different pe
by johnny goode on Apr 22, 2009 12:18 AM
We WILL keep separating the INBRED life forms out from Bharat as we separated out Pakland and Bangladesh are you Blind to geographical and Hindu REALITY are you Blind to Science of Human Propagation as opposed to Animal inbreeding which causes physical and psychological DEFORMATIONS in the life forms are you Blind to Reality are you Blind to the Norms of EVOLUTION you muzzees are BRAIN DEAD
OTHER STATE PEOPLE WORK FEW YEARS & GO & DEVELOP THEIR OWN STATE. GOVERNMENT MUST BRING NEW LAW WITHOUT AFFECTING THE EXISTING PEOPLE BY NONVIOLENCE THE LOCALS SHOULD HAVE JOBS, LAND RIGHTS, AND BUSINESS ETC IN THEIR OWN STATE. OTHERS CAN WORK FEW YEARS AND CAN GO TO THEIR OWN STATE AND DEVELOP THEIR OWN STATE. Then only these other states will become developed states. THE CENTRAL GOVERNMENT MUST BRING THIS AS NEW LAW WITHOUT AFFECTING THE EXISTING PEOPLE. This should be done by non-violence method. The locals are the people who are living in present date in that state till say as on date, 2008. The central government and state governments must ensure uniform economic growth throughout the nation. Fixed assets like house, land property limit can be made. Then India can prosper. In every state and central the community category 1, category 2, category 3, category 4, up to category 10, can be made for All job, education, business, land, house etc reservation depending upon the population and one category must not migrate to another category and everybody will have reservation. THE SOCIAL SECURITY SCHEME FOR FOOD, CLOTHES, AND SHELTER MINIMUM MUST BE ENSURED IN THE RESPECTIVE STATE BY CENTRAL AND STATE GOVERNMENT. Then all problems will be solved and in the long run we Indians can live peacefully. Article 370, LIKE FOR J & K AND HIMACHAL PRADESH MUST BE EXTENDED TO ALL STATES TO PROTECT TO PROTECT REGIONAL CULTURES
Re: OTHER STATE PEOPLE WORK FEW YEARS & GO & DEVELOP THEI
by johnny goode on Apr 22, 2009 12:43 AM
izzlam is not culture and has No values or right to exist neither its adherents
Re: seat prediction for bjp
by jaiandhra on Apr 22, 2009 12:43 AM
thsts 69 number belongd to upa govt not nda nowadays people know very well about congress dirty politics by the way dont waste time in predicting useless data...........
Re: seat prediction for bjp
by JGN JGN on Apr 21, 2009 08:20 PM
Your prediction is not correct. BJP will get around 95 seats and NDA may get 150 seats for sure.
ENJOYING AT FOREIGN COUNTRIES DO NOT PROMOTE RELEGIOUS TERRORISM IN INDIA 4,00,00,000 Indians mainly upper caste Gujarathis Marwaris, all Brahmins etc Happily living in so called Christian Countries and also others states in India. Own Industries, Business, Big cars, Aeroplane travel, Houses, Lands, Parlementarians, Government Top posts, Private Top Posts, dual citizen ship and more and more. In India The christain miisionaries by pioneer starting hospitals made our population from 1 crore to 110 crores AND they by pioneer starting education for all community made India a Super Power.
Re: ENJOYING AT FOREIGN COUNTRIES DO NOT PROMOTE RELEGIOUS TERROR
by Pradeep Ramachandra on Apr 21, 2009 11:31 PM
stop dividing Hindus based on castes since you dant want Indians to be divided. You cant be hypocrite. Since you get what you sow
Language and Caste of original races of India should be basis of census and identity In Our Country the language and caste forms the basis of identity of the original races of India. The Indians of any Indian language (Including Hindi and Urdu) and Indian caste, but of any faith are the Indians and are the original sons of soil and are entitled for equal rights. We must not allow people to be separated on the basis of artificially created Religion Mask. Even during Maurya (321–184 BC), Kushan (60–240 AD), Gupta (280–550 AD), Pala (750–1174AD) Empires etc etc parts of North/North West India, Middle East Iran etc, South West China etc were in the same Empire Intermingling of Races even before 2000 years and WE ARE ALL RELATIVES. THE PAST CENTURY HISTORY OF STRUGGLE BETWEEN BORDER STATES OF NORTH WEST INDIA AND PAKISTAN BASED ON ARTIFICIAL CREATED RELIGION SHOULD NOT BE THRUST ON REMAINING INDIANS TO SHED INNOCENT BLOOD AGAIN.
Re: Language and Caste of original races of India should be basi
by Bharatwasi on Apr 21, 2009 07:49 PM
That's all true. The trouble only started after MSL rule about 800 years back, when people were tortured for religion. Now, it will take long time to heal the religious gap unless MSL leaders move forward. But, they go backward by supporting terrorists
Re: Re: Language and Caste of original races of India should be
by IndianIndian on Apr 21, 2009 07:52 PM
Even Maratha Empire, Vijaya Nagar Empire, Sikh Empire etc tortured other state people during 17th 18th Century. LIKE WISE MILLIONS OF INDIAN PEOPLE HAVE BEEN SUBJECTED TO MASS KILLINGS, SEXUAL CRIMES, BARBARISM THROUGHOUT BY INDIANS FOR THE PAST 5000 YEARS IRRESPECTIVE OF RELIGION, LANGUAGE, CASTE, RACE, NATION ETC. THESE TYPES OF CRIMES HAPPENED THROUGHOUT THE WORLD IN THE PAST.
Re: Re: Re: Language and Caste of original races of India should
by Bharatwasi on Apr 21, 2009 08:21 PM
There is a difference between torture and wars. Yes there were wars for increasing the reach of their rule. But, this is ridiculous. No maratha or sikh empire ever tortured any individual for religion. This is only again a mis-interpreted history rather than facts. Only MSL rulers (including Akbar) tortured others for conversion. These facts are not taught because congress and left are afraid of the truth. But, you can verify the historical records from delhi museum. Academic researchers are discouraged in India's education system to tell the truth.
Re: Re: Language and Caste of original races of India should be
by IndianIndian on Apr 21, 2009 07:55 PM
Thousands of Jain, Buddhist and other places of worship have been converted to upper caste temples from 10th, 11th Century. Also Lakhs of Jain, Buddhist and other peoples killed (Indians Killing Indians)by these upper caste people
Re: Re: Re: Language and Caste of original races of India should
by Bharatwasi on Apr 21, 2009 08:28 PM
This is again mis-interpretation. Firstly, buddhism is a part of Hinduism and Hindus consider Lord Buddha as Vishnu's most recent Avtars. Adi Shankarachary travelled across India and defeated pandits through debate. Slowly, people accepted his views and realised that the merits of his thought. That's why they reverted to original philosophy in which Buddhism was only a subset. This was the time when people created new temples again. You will see even today there is no hatred among these societies (even though in recent decades so callled pseud-secularists have tried to create confusion through conspired theories).
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by Pradeep Ramachandra on Apr 21, 2009 11:29 PM
one more mistake this indianindian has made he mentioned somewhere above about vijayanagar empire. He states that vijaynagar ruler tortured their subjects during 17th and 18th century, I am sure vijayanagar kingdom ended around 1550 and till date people from Andhra and Karnataka remember those glorious days.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Language and Caste of original races of India
by jaiandhra on Apr 22, 2009 12:51 AM
vijayanagra kingdom was turning point in history where almost all states were conqured by muslims the vijaynagara rule till 1650 that to due there own conflict. the kingdom became very weak but nonetheless they are the one protected the hindu culture and .......
In a free enterprise secular society, where 40% of population is poor and another 30% is lower middle class, then it is very important for the upper 30% to protect the livelihood of the rest through government social schemes otherwise the majority 70% will not let the 30% govern them for too long (that is when they realise the value of their votes). Reverse logic applies for the religious majority for peaceful co-existence.
BJP is like party of the upper 30% similar to Republican Party in USA and Congress is similar to Democratic Party. BJP may have better programs for development of India through enterprise system whereas Congress through government sponsored schemes.
If BJP were to drop its anti-muslim rhetoric to get votes, it could become a major force in India since rest of the parties would split the remaining votes.
BJP needs to propogate development through free enterprise where businesses create wealth for all through job creation.
IN CONGRESS ADVERTISEMENT THERE ARE ONLY THREE PHOTOS - MANMOHAN SINGH, SONIA GANDHI AND RAHUL GANDHI. ALL OTHER SENIOR LEADERS OF CONGRESS ARE DEAD IT SEEMS. THEY ARE GIVING IMPORTANCE TO RAHUL GANDHI (ONLY QUALIFICATION HE IS HAVING IS , HIS BIRTH IN INDIRAGANDHI FAMILY) . ACTUALLY INDIRA GANDHI'S HUSBAND FAMILY IS NOT GIVEN ANY IMPORTANCE. EVEN PRANAB MUKHERJEE, KAPIL SIBIL, CHIDAMBARAM, ETC ARE SIDELINED IN THE PARTY. BUT THEY ARE USED AS PAWNS THATS ALL KIND MAKER IS SONIA GANDHI. NEXT KING MAKER RAHUL GANDHI AND HIS SON AND DAUGHTERS AND THE LIST GOESON LIKE THIS. NO CHANCE TO OTHER CONGRESS LEADERS TO BECOME PM OR PARTY PRESIDENT. THIS IS NOTHING BUT ONE FAMILY'S ADMINISTRATION NOTHING ELSE.
Re: CONGRESS ADVERTISEMENT
by vikas sethi on Apr 21, 2009 08:45 PM
Pls dont rake up stupid points. By that logic BJP has only Advani. That doesn't mean other BJP leaders are pawns.
