BlowJ Pee has a good record of serving biryani ( Jaswant tell them what you did in Kandahar... Did you satisfy the terrorists in any other way apart from biryani? )
Re: Wrong headline
by vineet bhandari on Apr 29, 2009 12:02 PM
Sweet heart u are wrong in ur knowledge.......... it was not jaswant singh it was congress govt who served biryani at charre sharif in kashmir..... more over it was mufti mohamad sayed's daughter , for whose release, militants were released.... then the release of terrosist in kandhar could be justified... if ur relatives were in that flight then u should have never dared to say these words.... I pity ur thinking...... n pity on u.......
It is quite evident that BJP has a Poor record, there is no doubt about it. Congress on the other hand had been bit better in managing it, as it was Congress only who started this menace in first place, be it Punjab, or J and k. Naxalism could have also been suppressed had there been a strong will power at the center. There was a time when in Assam ULFA problem was almost on its end, but then the center govt. stopped the offensive. There is no big mystery behind presence of the ongoing ultra movements all over the country. They all contribute in Vote Politics, be it the voting by normal public or be it the votes reqd in the House to prove the majority. Naxal are supported by Communists, Ulfa is reqd by Congress to gather votes in Assam and so on. We as a country only go for all out offensive when we realize that this problem is getting out of hands, like how easily we eliminated the Punjab Problem, and how smartly we have maintained the ceasefire with Nagas. India is a country of opportunist ppl, (2000 years of aggression is mainly responsible for that) and till the time we stop thinking about I, me , mine and start thinking in terms of we us and ours, the problems of country are going to stay, be it a problem of terrorism or corruption or caste racism. And what Raman is trying to do here is, only educating the masses, So it would be really nice of us to stop yelling insults at him and instead start motivating, pressuring our beloved Political Parties to eliminate terrorism
Re: why we have poor record
by vineet bhandari on Apr 29, 2009 12:12 PM
Its afzal guru who's death sentence is still pending....... its because of congress.... J&K has special status Art: 370, its b'caz of congress... u being an Indian can't purchase any property in J&K, its b'caz of congress... it was Nehru, b'caz of whome, the partion took place... it was Indra Gandhi, b'caz of whome, there is still PAK Occupied Kashmir..... and which is the route cause of terrosism.... and u still blame BJP...... check ur records and then talk...
Re: Re: why we have poor record
by deepak singh on Apr 29, 2009 03:02 PM
I agree and as for as Kandhar issue is concerned.. if Congress or any other UPA party had different solution why they didn't give that time.
raman always knows all about everything *after* the fact. can you predict anything, raman?
he is like those idiotboy economists (eg amartya sen and manmohan singh) who always know afterwards why a catastrophe happened, but can never predict it or prevent it.
Mr Raman's account of combating terrorism has shown that this country is ill prepared to combat terror whatever the nature of our political leadership. Would the country's response be different had we been ruled by the Left? The article also shows that the only continuity from one govt to the next has been in encouraging a soft response almost bordering on placating the terrorists and this has been due to the compulsions of vote bank politics. Today, our media cries hoarse about Pakistan being in trouble in dealing with the Taliban but our own record of dealing with extremists of all hues has been similar. Our Govt has no clue about the nature of the force that will be able to combat terror and its many faces. Every state seeks to use its present police force as the arrowhead for combating terror at most we can pass a terror act called POTA and leave the judiciary to pass judgments on living terrorists. No one is interested in pursuing the convictions anymore. We as a country do not even seem to be concerned about seriously combating street terror much less cyber terror. Our media is also concerned with glamourizing terror acts by running commentaries and endless discussions. So long as we have entertaining spectacles we are fine never mind the danger amidst us.
His attempt to be balanced falls flat when number of terrorist incidents during the tenure of these two governments be compared. Kandahar for me was what any humane government would do so i dont blame BJP for that. And Mumbai was the last straw of what was a lack lustre performance of this government in security front. Not only in security but even in terms of Economics NDA was better they came to power when countries growth rate was plummeting and pulled it up to over 7%. MMS enjoyed the benefit of NDA's hardwork without caring to implement any major infrastructure initiative other than Sethu which has very little economic value and only serves the ego of DMK. NDA erred when it failed to stop gujarat riots with Narendra Modi who is otherwise proving to be a good administrator looked otherway when innocents were killed on the street. But i think they paid for it in 2004 elections when entire muslim community voted strategically to defeat NDA. I know the riots got triggered because of Godhra killing but still that is no justification for killing innocents in the street. So, NDA in 2004 paid for letting citizens of India killed and i would accuse congress of the same thing as it looked the otherside when terrorists, maoists and ULFA were going on a killing spree for the past 5 years. Loyalty for the family stood above performance and a very incompetent home minister was running country's security for almost 5 years. So it is UPA's turn to lose. Hope they would !!
Internal threats to our country are numerous! Naxal moment, North East insurgency, Communal riots by both minority and majority communities, communal organizations of majority and minority communities and Jihadi terrorism are some of the critical areas where the governments are expected take control of the dangerous situations.
Who is strong in handling terror? Both major parties have their own weakness and compulsions riddled with vote banks (read minority and majority).
Everyone should read this article without any bias, especially BJP supporters who harp on national security and internal threats.
BJP has been fond of quoting Israel repeatedly for their daring actions against other countries. They always try to quote Israel’s commando action in Entebbe! Forget that they just meted in Kandahar! The party, which always harped on Isreal, simply withered away in Kandahar!
Almost all BJP supporters also misquote when they equate Rubeena Sayeed kidnap-exchange in 1990. V.P.Singh was the PM at that time with the outside support from BJP. When the time came to release JKLF terrorists in exchange for Rubeena, BJP simply shut its mouth and kept quiet.
Once again, BJP supporters keep harping on Afzal Guru. However, they conveniently forget that they simply failed to hang Rajeev Gandhi's killers who are also on death row imposed by the Supreme Court.
The author is right when he said; the razing of Babri Masjid finally resulted in Jihadi terrorism spreading to other parts of the country. Just remember, Jihadi terrorism was non-existent in other parts of India before that incident. The only instances of terrorism were witnessed in Punjab and the North east apart from Red Brigade or Naxals. In fact, Congress was very effective in dismissing Khalistan terrorism from Punjab, when the excellent pair of Beant Singh and Gill ensured complete eradication of Khalistan threat.
Re: Good Article - I
by Onlooker on Apr 22, 2009 01:00 PM
How come you commence your statement by saying that everyone should read this article with an unbiased mind and then only point out to BJP's flaws. How are we take that you are unbiased as you are only pointing out an obscure picture from a prism.
The excessive negative criticsm by the media as a concerted effort to showdown BJP has already begun to backfire on their faces. No one in India will take opinions coming from english media on face value anymore.
Kehte hain paap ka ghada jab bhar jaata hai tab khud hi phut jaata hai.
Re: Re: Good Article - I
by Public Voice on Apr 25, 2009 12:10 PM
very well wrote Onlooker. Why supporters of congress cant see the misrule of 60 or so years of uttar nonsense leading to the present situation of the country while they do not leave a chance to bark on 5 year rule of BJP is clear by rediff board. You can see that all Congi support people are aggressive, uncontrolled, biased and use filthy language. Some of the users are from Pakistan and support Congress. After all it is congress who made pakistan against Gandhiji's will and see what this pakistan do to us.
The fact is that both parties have failed to contain terror. And the irony is the more Advani tries to find fault with Congress & Dr. MMS, the more the focus shifts on his utter failure as HM to contain terror. The need of the hour is to beef up our intelligence sys-tems and try to act as proactively as possible against terrorists before the attacks are actually carried out. With so many infiltra-tions about to take place, the need of the hour is to be extra vigilant rather than blame each other.
Re: Mutual blame game is futile....
by Unjinx on Apr 22, 2009 10:15 AM
Bee Jay Pee has a good record. They serve biryani to terrorists. Remember Kandahar?
Also, they took us back to ancient times by making the Indian army stand in a line at the border for 9 months after the parliament attack -- waiting for LKA to shout AKRAMAN...
Re: Re: Re: Mutual blame game is futile....
by Onlooker on Apr 22, 2009 12:46 PM
Yeah. Good question. With all the show sha put up by Congis wonder why their allies are not accepting MMS as the PM? WHo should we vote for MMS?, Sonia Khan? Lalu Yadav? Sharad Pawar? or Rahul Gandhi? Major leadership issues in UPA. The circus is never ending. MMS attacks Left, Left attacks MMS. MMS attacks Lalu, Lalu says MMS is not our leader and to top it Mulayam says they will not be a part of UPA. When will we see this circus come to an end?
Raman, sorry to say you are actually diluting the miserable failure of Congress by comparing the two incidents Kandahar and Parliament attack in BJP regime to Congress's impotency to handle 68 TERRORIST attacks in the past 5 years. Kandahar was out of India.
Please also understand that India comprises of 83% Hindus and the soft peddling appproach adopted by Congress since the past 60 years of monarchy rule in India is the cause of this pathetic plight that most Indians find themselves in.
I am not surprised that a family which cannot really be called a Hindu family as the lineage is all mixed up has no sympthay left for Hindus. They are flagarantly supportive of the minority co they are not Gandhis but Khans. Rajiv Khan, Sanjay Khan, and Rahul Khan as the father of Rajiv and Sanjay is a Muslim.
The torture of Hindus and the masses will ened when this family and this party goes into extinction before they sell out India to the Arab world and America.
Our nation can only be led by a patriotic party like BJP. RSS itsels is a culmination of the seeds of fanatacism sown by the Moghals.
So please Raman stop licking the boots of Congress and give your tired brains a rest. Write unbiased articles if you have to otherwise the corrupt English print and electronic media has amply exposed itself in this election.
Re: Raman is a silent UPA supporter
by jiggs on Apr 22, 2009 10:35 AM
onlooker , I would suggest that you give your fatigued braincells some much needed rest . Your thinking is as confused as BJP . Your facts are wrong . Kandhar , a plane hijacked in " INdian airspace , landed in Amritsar and then flew on to Kandhar ." Now if you think indian airspace is not " INdian " or Amritsar is not a part of india , then god help you . You have tried to equate parliament attack with " 68 " atacks in congres regime well friend you choose to forget that Parliament house is a virtual contonment . and if they could attack that then that indicated weekness . Also , Raman has chosen to ignore some other attacks likes of which have not happened til date or have you forgotten akshardham , kaluchak , raghunath temple or kashmir where around 50 sikhs were killed on the eve of clintons arrival in delhi ? COmon mate , BJP has been as inefficient in handling terror as any other party .
A lot of talk centres around POTA . Let me ask you one question , how many people have ever been arrested in POTA in BJP and in congres regime ?
The problem is we do not have a decent intelligence gathering network . Problem is the general apathy of Public ( have you noticed any unclaimed object lying arond you ) ? SO lets stop blaiming govts only and starty doing our duty as well .
Re: Re: Raman is a silent UPA supporter
by Onlooker on Apr 22, 2009 12:28 PM
I do not need a kangressi to preach me on internal security issues. MMS, Sonia and tyhe blind kangressi supporters will be shown the door by the electorate. Don;t be surprised if Kangress will get less than 100 seats this time.
Re: Re: Raman is a silent UPA supporter
by Meenakshi Gupta on Apr 22, 2009 05:41 PM
F@ke J1GGS, People who imitate others 1ds with m@licious intentions do not have a right to dictate anyone.
Re: Raman is a silent UPA supporter
by Killer on Apr 22, 2009 05:50 AM
In Kandahar BJP were on their knees. How can u say BJP is patriotic when they know to beg for votes only in the name of religion and not development.
Re: Raman is a silent UPA supporter
by jiggs on Apr 22, 2009 10:35 AM
onlooker , I would suggest that you give your fatigued braincells some much needed rest . Your thinking is as confused as BJP . Your facts are wrong . Kandhar , a plane hijacked in " INdian airspace , landed in Amritsar and then flew on to Kandhar ." Now if you think indian airspace is not " INdian " or Amritsar is not a part of india , then god help you . You have tried to equate parliament attack with " 68 " atacks in congres regime well friend you choose to forget that Parliament house is a virtual contonment . and if they could attack that then that indicated weekness . Also , Raman has chosen to ignore some other attacks likes of which have not happened til date or have you forgotten akshardham , kaluchak , raghunath temple or kashmir where around 50 sikhs were killed on the eve of clintons arrival in delhi ? COmon mate , BJP has been as inefficient in handling terror as any other party .
A lot of talk centres around POTA . Let me ask you one question , how many people have ever been arrested in POTA in BJP and in congres regime ?
The problem is we do not have a decent intelligence gathering network . Problem is the general apathy of Public ( have you noticed any unclaimed object lying arond you ) ? SO lets stop blaiming govts only and starty doing our duty as well .
Re: Re: Raman is a silent UPA supporter
by Onlooker on Apr 22, 2009 12:41 PM
I do not need a kangressi to preach me on internal security issues. MMS, Sonia and tyhe blind kangressi supporters will be shown the door by the electorate. Don't be surprised if Congi will get less than 100 seats this time. This vote bank politics played right from Indira Khan's time has to come to an end. Now is the time.
Re: Re: Raman is a silent UPA supporter
by Meenakshi Gupta on Apr 22, 2009 05:47 PM
F@ke J1GGS, People who imitate others 1ds with m@licious intentions do not have a right to dictate anyone.
Re: Re: Raman is a silent UPA supporter
by Meenakshi Gupta on Apr 22, 2009 05:43 PM
F@ke J1GGS, People who imitate others 1ds with m@licious intentions do not have a right to dictate anyone.
Re: Re: Raman is a silent UPA supporter
by Meenakshi Gupta on Apr 22, 2009 05:43 PM
F@ke J1GGS, People who imitate others 1ds with m@licious intentions do not have a right to dictate anyone.
Re: Raman is a silent UPA supporter
by indian on Apr 22, 2009 10:05 AM
Well, with 83% hindus why is it that a strong and sensible party doesnt come to power, with 83% it should be a cake walk for any hindu nationalist party, try dolling out all the goodies offered(if offered) to the majority and see if at least then there could be a unity of the majority, me too from a minority comunity but it really pains me to see India being attacked again and again with no real concrete actions from any parties, do you people really think that these parties are really bothered about our security???
