Hearing the same old dialogues every time from congress. It seems that Sonia has a circuit which will repeat every day about Kandhar. Congress say that PM MMS is strong yes that's true. MMS is a strong PM to congress party and weak PM to INDIA Congress are topiwallas because u can find them wearing a white cap in meeting and rallies.
BJP & Shisena even remember during elections, but you Congressis (Congress = IMP = Indian Muslim Party) had a question about the EXISTANCE of Ram & you pur CROSS on the Re 1 & Re. 2 very silently.
This is not your italy, where fooolll & commisssiioonn eating people living. NOw, people knows everything about your love for Muslims.
Re: They even remember, you r doubting for EXESTANCE of RAM ???
by deep dar on Apr 21, 2009 10:06 AM
It's strange that Sonia has called Shivaji Maharaj secular as he always fought against Mughals!
Truly, Sonia doesn't know anything about this country.
Re: Re: They even remember, you r doubting for EXESTANCE of RAM ?
by Shiv Baba on Apr 21, 2009 11:15 AM
The Only way she can serve this nation is she find the men of her age who dont have wives.One by one give comfort to those men as wife, thus you'll serve this nation & senior citizens.
Dear Madam, BJP has very clearly stated in their manifesto,that they will built RAM temple only if they come on majority on their own,but you pepole do not allow them & people of india to forget this,As a matter of fact congress & its partners are most communal who at the time of elections scares muslims from BJP & bring in issue of BABRI MASJID,Madam please advise why you & your so called secular partners even once called for building HOLY BABRI MOSQUE & Demolish unholy RAM TEMPLE, By the way do you have any idea who was BABBER.
Please go back to italy & allow us to leave in peace .
Madam Sonia Gandhi Even dont no what is India, How is Indian people Living, She is still holding a House in Itally... She know more about Itally not india. She dosent no the 80 crores peoples heart beat. It is only the indian Leaders know. If BJP got absolutly majority in Parliment Ram Mandir will fullfilled Indian people know about that. Madam Sonia reemember one thing her late Husband Mr. Rajiv Gandhi will inagurate the Site of Ram Mandir...
I hold no brief for Teesta Setalvad or anyone else, and if indeed there are charges against her or anyone else in the SIT report, the Supreme Court would obviously know what prosecution to launch and it should obviously be made public and discussed, but what are we to do with the ET and TOI reports of April 14 and 16?
Also, since the quotes and page numbers in the April 16 report clearly do not seem to have been the basis of the April 14 reports, it is fair to question where they may suddenly have sprung up from. Since the SC did not even allow quoting of the SIT report in court, it would be useful to speculate on the origin of these quotes. Could they too have come from some of the lawyers with access to them? Are they selectively leaking information? Given how muddied the whole issue has become, could we now please demand that the SIT report be made public in its entirety so that the facts are clear to all?
Re: Lies! Utter Lies!! Part VII
by JGN on Apr 21, 2009 10:35 AM
Mr. Ramesh, what are you trying to achieve here? Are you telling us that Mr. Teesta Javed Khan is a re-incarnation of "Raja Harishchandra" and that what ever she dishes out is "gospel truth"??
What is her source of funding? Who is promoting her Anti-India activities?
Even Zahira Sheikh had accused her of cooking up stories in the Best Bakerey Case and the poor girl had to undergo imprisonment for giving false evidences at the behest of Teesta Javed Khan but she wriggled out of the controversey by befooling the Court and general public.
Till a few months back even I was also under the impression that she is an honest social worker as even an upright Humanrights Activist like Retd Justice V.R. Krishna Iyer attracts ridicule from some sections of the Society. Then I saw a news report that she wanted to buy the entire Area where Mr. Jefri was ki11ed and wanted to convert the area into some sort of a monument for those ki11ed and wanted to have an annual recitation of The Qurrran over there. Then I realized that she is indeed a re1igious fanatic as no secular person would want to have Annual Recitation of The Qurran over the place where some persons were ki11ed.
Re: Lies! Utter Lies!! Part VII
by JGN on Apr 21, 2009 10:22 AM
Mr. Ramesh, what are you trying to achieve here? Are you tellin us that Mr. Teesta Javed Khan is a re-incarnation of "Raja Harishchandra" and that what ever she dieshes our is "gospel truth"??
What is her source of funding? Who is promoting her Anti-India activities?
Even Zahira Sheikh had accused her of cooking up stories in the Best Bakerey Case and the poor girl had to undergo imprisonment for giving false evidences at the best of Teesta Javed Khan but she wriggled out of the controversey by befooling the Court and general public.
Till a few months back even I was also under the impression that she is an honest social worker as even an upright Humanrights Activist like Retd Justice V.R. Krishna Iyer attracts ridicule from some sections of the Society. Then I saw a news report that she wanted to buy the entire Area where Mr. Jefri was ki11ed and wanted to convert the area into some sort of a monument for those ki11ed and wanted to have an annual recitation of The Qurrran over there. Then I realized that she is indeed a re1igious fanatic as no secular person would want to have Annual Recitation of The Qurran over the place where some persons were ki11ed.
Actually, even those "contradictory statements" and "discrepancies" are worth going into (many contradictions and discrepancies can be pointed in Mahapatra's own two versions -- starting with the number of witnesses), and it would indeed be instructive to ascertain what may have led to them, but given how the April 14 reports ended up, one should perhaps insist on an answer to the obvious question first: If the SIT report is available, and if that indeed is the basis for the April 14 reports-- in both ET and TOI as claimed -- why not substantiate the charges made? Sensational allegations are made in one report, then the veracity of the report is asserted by quoting not from the pages that allegedly contain those sensational charges but a whole lot of other pages about discrepancies in witness accounts
All of this raises serious questions about media reportage and editorial responsibility. When a journalist of a respectable paper like TOI or ET puts words in quotes, what does that mean? And when a subsequent report blusters that its controversial earlier report was indeed based on the SIT report, why does it not even allude to those sensational claims anymore, leave alone substantiating them? It is too grim a subject to even get into a speculation about what indeed might be responsible for these stories -- or what indeed was 'cooked up' and by whom.
Re: Lies! Utter Lies!! Part VII
by JGN on Apr 21, 2009 10:29 AM
Mr. Ramesh, what are you trying to achieve here? Are you telling us that Mr. Teesta Javed Khan is a re-incarnation of "Raja Harishchandra" and that what ever she dieshes out is "gospel truth"??
What is her source of funding? Who is promoting her Anti-India activities?
Even Zahira Sheikh had accused her of cooking up stories in the Best Bakerey Case and the poor girl had to undergo imprisonment for giving false evidences at the best of Teesta Javed Khan but she wriggled out of the controversey by befooling the Court and general public.
Till a few months back even I was also under the impression that she is an honest social worker as even an upright Humanrights Activist like Retd Justice V.R. Krishna Iyer attracts ridicule from some sections of the Society. Then I saw a news report that she wanted to buy the entire Area where Mr. Jefri was ki11ed and wanted to convert the area into some sort of a monument for those ki11ed and wanted to have an annual recitation of The Qurrran over there. Then I realized that she is indeed a re1igious fanatic as no secular person would want to have Annual Recitation of The Qurran over the place where some persons were ki11ed.
For example, it does not even bother to allude to the sensational charges in its April 14 report:
The SIT also found no truth in the following incidents widely publicised by the NGOs:
* A pregnant Muslim woman Kausar Banu was gangraped by a mob, who then gouged out the foetus with sharp weapons
* Dumping of dead bodies into a well by rioteers at Naroda Patiya
* Police botching up investigation into the killing of British nationals, who were on a visit to Gujarat and unfortunately got caught in the riots
Instead of concentrating on these charges of "cooking up macabre tales of killing", this April 16 report now sends us on a different wildgoose chase with page numbers quoted to buttress its claims, but all that it effectively talks about is “contradictory statements” and “discrepancies” in witness accounts. Ironically, the answer to these is perhaps available in the April 14 report itself as it quoted the SC as saying, "In riot cases, the more the delay, there is likelihood of falsity creeping in."
Re: Lies! Utter Lies!! Part VI
by JGN on Apr 21, 2009 10:29 AM
Mr. Ramesh, what are you trying to achieve here? Are you telling us that Mr. Teesta Javed Khan is a re-incarnation of "Raja Harishchandra" and that what ever she dieshes out is "gospel truth"??
What is her source of funding? Who is promoting her Anti-India activities?
Even Zahira Sheikh had accused her of cooking up stories in the Best Bakerey Case and the poor girl had to undergo imprisonment for giving false evidences at the best of Teesta Javed Khan but she wriggled out of the controversey by befooling the Court and general public.
Till a few months back even I was also under the impression that she is an honest social worker as even an upright Humanrights Activist like Retd Justice V.R. Krishna Iyer attracts ridicule from some sections of the Society. Then I saw a news report that she wanted to buy the entire Area where Mr. Jefri was ki11ed and wanted to convert the area into some sort of a monument for those ki11ed and wanted to have an annual recitation of The Qurrran over there. Then I realized that she is indeed a re1igious fanatic as no secular person would want to have Annual Recitation of The Qurran over the place where some persons were ki11ed.
Dhananjay Mahapatra responded to the CJP response in Times of India on April 16: 'Report based on SIT findings'
My report was based on the SIT report and not any document circulated by the Gujarat government, as suggested by CJP. Whether any section of the media has the report or not is irrelevant as TOI has access to the report.
And it concluded by saying:
In short, my report was based on the actual SIT report. The excerpts from it should prove this beyond doubt.
So has the TOI journalist proved beyond doubt, as many seem to believe, that "the SIT led by former CBI director R K Raghavan told the Supreme Court on Monday that the celebrated rights activist cooked up macabre tales of wanton killings"?
Far from it. The only thing this report proves beyond doubt is that the ET and TOI reports of April 14 were misleading, to say the least. TOI's April 16 report in fact raises far many more questions than it answers. While prima facie it does offer direct quotes from what it calls the SIT report, with reference to page numbers, it is not clear what credence to give them.
The detailed report of SIT submitted to the Supreme Court on March 6, 2007 has not been available for study either to National Human Rights Commission (NHRC), the petitioners in this case, or the Citizens for Justice and Peace (CJP) who have intervened in this critical matter or to any in the media. Any reference to it is hence hearsay and it may amount to contempt of court to write about a report which the Court has specifically not made public.
