The problem of 1slamic extremism exists in all Countries where there are Mus1ims, whether your are in majority or minorty. When you are in majoirty, you start fights between Sunnnis, shiiias, Ahmediyas, Bahaiis, Khurds, etc and when you are in minority you fight with H1ndus, X'tians, Buddhists, etc!!!
BJP has sponsored Rediff What do you think? BJP is talking about black money But they r spending black money in expensive advertisements. Quit BJP oppose terrorism join Congress
Re: BJP has sponsored Rediff
by JGN on Apr 19, 2009 01:20 PM
Rediff is Congress mouth piece. They have given the e-mail IDs to Congress party for sending their propaganda material. I have received mail purported to be from Jairam Ramesh.
Congress opposing terrorism?? Joke of the century!!! Their great Minority Affairs Minister, Janab Abdul Rehman Antualy was all praise for the "good work" done by his jihadi brothers in Mumbai on 26/11.
Friends Friends y waste time on laalu after election he is again going to join Congress, and congress will also welcome him. we all know our politicians got two tails in their mouth. what they speak they will forget next moment. 2moro if u ask laloo he will tell : In Politics kuch bi hosktha hai, Same old Bhojpuri draama
Re: Re: after election what lalu do is important.
by dudehere on Apr 19, 2009 01:55 PM
yea secular parties like..IUML,MIM,taliban alqaeda..JUD LET..etc etc..
BJP can’t form government So don’t waste your precious vote by voting for BJP Simply go and vote for congress if You support 1. Gender Justice 2. Equality of all religions 3. Most qualified person for PM 4. Equiped to handle terror 5. Good relations with US 6. Protection of rights for minorities 7. Social justice 8. Experience in lgovernance 9. Prosperity 10. All sensible people like muslim, Christians, Bengalis oriyas South Indians donot vote for BJP So there is no point voting a party of hindu extremism Moreover no where in Hinduism it is stated to demolish mosque BJP has to answer the nation as its prime ministerial candidate is charged with demolition of Babri Masjid Simply vote for development that is Congress
BJP has sponsored Rediff What do you think?
Congress 210 Other UPA alliance 40 seats Lalu Paswan Mulayam 50 seats Total 300
Re: Re: Congress will triumph
by overblown blown on Apr 19, 2009 01:21 PM
you mean to say that in islam it is stated that destroy all other places of workship other than muslim places?? I wish bongs were not hindus, they are disgrace to hinduism and they are the biggest cowards. Also you see if i am not mistaken there is no bengal regiment in the indian army. Sourav Ganguly is a exception.
Re: Re: Re: Congress will triumph
by kusum chakravarty on Apr 19, 2009 01:29 PM
Secularism is the basic feature of Indian Constitution I am proud to tell you that bengal is secular and so is AP TN kerala Delhi Orissa and therefore they don't vote for BJP it is duty of every Indian not to vote for BJP as it is communal
Re: Re: Re: Re: Congress will triumph
by Stellar on Apr 19, 2009 01:55 PM
You are doing regional analysis which is sheer idiocy. I might term you communal coz of that.
Re: Re: Re: Congress will triumph
by kusum chakravarty on Apr 19, 2009 01:49 PM
The Bengal Regiment is a term ascribed a large number of infantry regiments first raised for the British Indian Army. These regiments were originally raised by the East India Company as part of the Army of Bengal, which was one of the three presidency armies that were abosorbed into British Indian Army in 1903.[1] Composing mainly of recruits from the British Indian province of Bengal, following the partitioning of India and its independence from Britain, such regiments have been carried over into the Indian Army, the Pakistan Army and the Bangladesh Army where they continue to serve today. Bengal regiment has been one of the largest and most efficacious
Re: Re: Re: Re: Congress will triumph
by JGN on Apr 19, 2009 02:24 PM
What has it got to do with the Election? Even Madras Regiment is similar. Have you heard of "Maratha Light Infantry"??
Re: Congress will triumph
by JGN on Apr 19, 2009 01:15 PM
Liberhan Commission headed by the retired judge of Supreme Court M S Liberhan was constituted on December 16, 1992 by an order of the Indian union home ministry and the Commission has still not submitted their report!!! This commission would defnitely get a place in the "Guiness Book of World Records". Why the Political Parties and Re1igious leaders are not solving the problem? Who all are interested in keeping the same simmering for such a long time?? 67 Acres of land is under dispute. The same is more than enough for a dozen Mandirs and Masjids each.
Re: Re: Congress will triumph
by kusum chakravarty on Apr 19, 2009 01:22 PM
Obviously BJP is using Ayodhya issue for political gains. Muslims and other secular people will give a fitting reply as to why Masjid was demolished
Re: Re: Re: Congress will triumph
by dudehere on Apr 19, 2009 01:58 PM
or for that matters all the temples razed in kashmir, malaysia? u guyz are b*stards cant forget one babri masjid... while hindooz have aall along forgotten all teh temples demollished including in gujarat recently... if even one mosque comes is demolished we can find only bomb blasts everywhere.. coz I-slam is a peaceful religion...
Re: Re: Re: Congress will triumph
by JGN on Apr 19, 2009 01:25 PM
Why are you so much bothered about one Masjid? Are you telling us that blasting Bhamiyan Buddha was a secular act?
One frequently hears that Rajiv Gandhi's grandfather (nanaji) was Pandit Nehru. But then we all know that everyone has two grandfathers, the paternal (dadaji) and the maternal (nanaji)grandfathers.
In fact, the paternal grandfather is deemed to be the more important grandfather in most societies.
Why is it then, nowhere, we find Rajiv Gandhi's paternal grandfather' s name? It appears that the reason is simply. Rajiv Gandhi's paternal grandfather (dadaji) was a Muslim gentleman from the Junagadh area of Gujarat .
This Muslim grocer by the name of Nawab Khan, had married a Parsi woman after converting her to Islam.
This is the source where from the myth of Rajiv being a Parsi was derived. Rajiv's father Feroze, was Feroze Khan before he married Indira, against Kamala Nehru's wishes.
Feroze's mother's family name was Ghandy, often associated with Parsis and this was changed to Gandhi, sometime before his wedding with Indira, by an affidavit.
Re: Re: some facts to be known
by Eye Opener on Apr 19, 2009 12:18 PM
no his grandfathr isn't firoze khan, it was Mohammad Yunus. but his mother is 100% hindu atleast.
Re: Re: some facts to be known
by Jay on Apr 19, 2009 12:36 PM
Success Mantra: To win in politics, change your lastname to Gandhi & to be successful in Bollywood, change it to Khan.
Re: Re: Re: some facts to be known
by Numb Nut on Apr 19, 2009 12:38 PM
to get illiterate h1ndu votes, make open threats against mus11ms and claim it is a right of free speech to openly spread hatred.
Re: Re: Re: Re: some facts to be known
by JGN on Apr 19, 2009 01:00 PM
Numb Nut, it is the Mu1ims who are threatening every one else. Even your Sunnis and Shiiias are blasting each other. Then what makes you think that you will tolerate others??
Re: Re: some facts to be known
by R Balasubramanian on Apr 19, 2009 01:07 PM
the entire world knows about the personal life of Nehru. Indeed, it was love between Indira and Feroz Khan(Kashmiri)which was not accepted by Nehru. It is because of Gandhi's intervention that Feroz Khan changed to Feroz Gandhi. The world also knows who is behind the murder of Sanjay Gandhi. Sonia defends her soft corner to terrorist and in particular muslims and sights the sacrifices her husband and MiL did for the country inspite of she knowing the real cause. Rajiv was assassinated due to attrocities of IPKF on Sri Lankan Tamil women and Indira was assassinated due to Operation Blue Star on Sikhs.
Nehru family history is a decayed filth not worth talking by indians having rgard to their self-respect and morality.
Re: Re: Re: some facts to be known
by JGN on Apr 19, 2009 01:10 PM
Mr. Balu, unfortunately there are a good majority in India who thinks that our country is the ancestral property of Nehru-Gandhi family and have to shame in singing their praise!! One thing we have to admit. They have been very successful in befooling the citizens of our Country for such a long time.
Re: Re: Re: Re: some facts to be known
by R Balasubramanian on Apr 19, 2009 01:20 PM
like a good educated majority, including Brahmins, in TN praising Karunanidhi and his achievement inspite of he being a blunt hatered of hindus and in particular Brahmins. The attrocities committed by VKR and MK on Brahmin ladies cannot be pardoned. I dare can he condemn the barbaric customs of muslims and in particular Talibans? He is spineless and has taken the courage to condemn the hindus advantage, our disunity amongst us. The only solution for justice to India is that al hindus irrespective of caste and creed should shun their ego and unite together to show our real strength. Till then, we are toothless Cobras.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: some facts to be known
by Jay on Apr 19, 2009 01:52 PM
You can see Karuna's arrogance even while he was speaking on the occasion of congratulating success of Chandrayan. He questions the existence of gods, but arranges for special puja for his own longevity.
Re: Re: Re: some facts to be known
by R Balasubramanian on Apr 19, 2009 01:09 PM
I have the family tree of Nehru family. If anyone interested, can write to me.
Mr Lalu Prasad Yadav is not perceived to be a glamorous politician, and yet he was invited by the management gurus in India and abroad for his remarkable management skills in running the Indian Railways. He also showed exemplary guts in stopping Mr L.K. Advani's infamous Rathayatra in Bihar, when Mr Advani's move was destroying the unity of the Indians. Mr Advani is a man who always takes recourse to double-speak. He was a man responsible for the demolition of the Babari Masjid, and yet he always publicly denied this, though he sought votes from the Hindutva organisations on this ground! Mr Advani also publicly says that Mr Varun Gandhi did not say the hate-speech in Pilibhit. In fact, he says that the CD was doctored (though Mr Gopalaswami - the CEC - says that it was a genuine CD). But, on the other hand, he promotes Varun as a symbol of the so-called Hindutva politics! Varun also appears to be a clever man. He publicly denies the contents of the hate-speech, and yet he expects Hindutva votes on account of that speech! Indeed, double-speak is something in which the BJP leaders have specialised. And, I also support Mr Laluprasad when he criticises Congress for the Babari demolition. Apparently, Mr Narasimha Rao did not do what he could to save the masjid. However, the primary responsibility lies with the BJP and the Hindutva politicians.
Re: Lalu-Advani-Varun
by Nandakumar rajagopal on Apr 19, 2009 01:17 PM
GOOD GOVERNANCE is what is expected from the voters. Whether in Gujarat or MP or Delhi or Karnataka voters throughout have shown that they understand politics well.mere slogans and mud slingings would not do any more. Lallu as Railway minister would be remembered only if the coming elections allow him succeed. I think HR philosophies are brain washed by commy friends. Imagination is not needed what our comrades would say if they were to support a congy govt post election. compare that to what they are saying now. then defenition for double speak would be clear.
Re: Lalu-Advani-Varun
by Kalyanasundaram Venkatesh on Apr 19, 2009 11:03 AM
Im a devoted religious Hindu and Im deadly against all the terrorist activities of muslims. But I hate LKAdvani for his religious lunatics that triggered never ending religious riots in our country; LKAdvani is the real culprit in that Babri Masjid demolition as he was the one who led that demolition in the front of thousands of people. LKAdvani is the culprit for dividing the people in India in the name of religion.
Re: Lalu-Advani-Varun
by Jiggs on Apr 19, 2009 10:51 AM
Haramohan Roy... I have a few questions for you: -If you say that the BJP is solely responsible of the issue, then please tell me: A: WHY DID RAJIV GANDHI OPEN THE LOCKS OF THE TEMPLE? B: THE PEOPLE WHO VOTED FOR THE BJP THEREAFTER, WERENT THEY AWARE OF THE SO CALLED COMMUNAL AGENDA? C: OR LIKE THE CONGRESS YOU ARE TRYING TO SAY THAT THE PEOPLE OF INDIA ARE BOTTOMLESS STUPID AND NEED TO BE TOLD WHOM TO VOTE FOR? To understand the Ram Janmabhoomi issue, you got to read and find out, why the BJP even if it wants cannot shun the Hindutva or the Ram Temple issue. I clearly remember I had posted exact reasons on another such question of yours and you never replied.
Re: Re: Lalu-Advani-Varun
by Haramohan Roy on Apr 19, 2009 11:04 AM
Mr Jiggs, I am not concerned about how or why the BJP cannot move out of the Ram Janambhoomi agenda - I am not bothered about their agenda at all. You may have noticed that I also blamed Congress for the fiasco. The people of India are not stupid. In fact, they have been one of the most intelligent peoples of the world - and so we got rid of Mrs Indira Gandhi in 1977, and Mr Vajpayee in 2004 (through the ballot-power of the Indians)! However, the BJP and the Sangh Parivar very cleverly manipulated the sentiment of a section of the gullible people. In fact, the dividive agenda of the BJP and the Sangh Parivar is apparent in their insistence on doing away with the plurality of the Indian society, which would bring in catastrophe in out famed unity in diversity. We must understand and diversity is a positive thing, whereas divisive policy is certainly not!
Re: Re: Re: Lalu-Advani-Varun
by Haramohan Roy on Apr 19, 2009 11:07 AM
Sorry for some typos above. Please read 'dividive' as 'divisive', 'out' as 'our', and 'We must understand and diversity is a positive thing, whereas divisive policy is certainly not!' as 'We must understand that diversity is a positive thing, whereas divisive policy is certainly not!'
Re: Lalu-Advani-Varun
by neelam on Apr 19, 2009 11:32 AM
1. America's top company (I can not disclose name) wanted railway coaches order they sent lalu to harward to get the order, Lalu wanted to divide all money between company and Lalu. Comapany hadreputation it wanted to produce coaches. Then the whole transport department was sacked. That is the harward story.
2. hwen Agent was called for debate on TV he iddn't accept but full K@NG@ traitor are attacking Advani through Pr2st@tut@ media, What is this? 3. Not a single question asked was adrressed whether it be economy, security or illegal maoney. Simply beating about the bush. Should we discuss Ram nanm Bhoomi (I do not call it Babri musjit) and kandhar only. Who is ruling? issue shoull be related to ruling party's performance. 3. Everyone has seen CD its cut at 17 places. Why calling oneself a proud h@nd@ becomes communal? What is wrong in defending?? 4. People deserve criminals because they themselves are not honest.
Re: Lalu-Advani-Varun
by GODAVARTI RAmesh on Apr 19, 2009 12:25 PM
Babri issue started with congress opening the locks of the temple.
Congress had a hand in propping up Bhindrenwale , who in turn was responsible for terrorism in punjab.
Militancy in Kashmir started after congress rigged elections with NC in the 70s.
Were there were no communal riots before the Babri demolition? BJP exploited and hastened the basic communal divide which always existed. Basically it is a question of incompatibility. Let us not fool ourselves into believing that but for BJP India would have been a land of eternal peace and harmony. As for Lalu , less about him would be better. Everyone knows how Railways is earning profits. BTW have you seen any improvement in passenger trains and facilties?
Re: Re: Lalu-Advani-Varun
by JGN on Apr 19, 2009 12:40 PM
GODAVARTI RAmesh, terrorist activites were renewed in J & K after Rajiv Gandhi installed a puppet (G.M. Shah, the estranged brother-in-law of Farooq Abdullah as the CM in the late 1980s). The ethnic cleansing of Kashmiri Pandits took place long before the demolition of the disputed structure but nobody would talk about that!! These Congress chamchas are telling us that had the disputed structure not demolished, there would not have been any terrorist activities in our Country!! Which structure was demolished in UK for even highly educated Indians ventured out to blow up the Glasgow Airport??
Re: Re: Re: Re: Lalu-Advani-Varun
by JGN on Apr 19, 2009 12:51 PM
So you mean to say that H1ndus should always show their neck for others to cut off!!!
Re: Re: Re: Lalu-Advani-Varun
by Numb Nut on Apr 19, 2009 12:44 PM
kandhamal, godhra are examples and we have most educated Hindu upper cast supporting these activities.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Lalu-Advani-Varun
by JGN on Apr 19, 2009 12:52 PM
What led to khandkamal and Godhra? Why don't you talk about the reasons for such incidents? When the going gets tough, the tough gets going. Khadamal was between the converted tribals who still wanted to enjoy the benefits of reservation and those who did not convert. Upper Caste h1ndus had nothing to do with that.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Lalu-Advani-Varun
by JGN on Apr 19, 2009 12:57 PM
So you mean to say that all of us have to submit to you Shariah and start paying "Jizya"???
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Lalu-Advani-Varun
by JGN on Apr 19, 2009 01:03 PM
Who has criminalized and alienated the entire community? It is you who wants to impose your re1igous dogmas on others.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Lalu-Advani-Varun
by Numb Nut on Apr 19, 2009 12:54 PM
yes the leaders of RSS/BJP do not get their hands dirty, they leave killings etc to backward Hindus,in their great aim of integrating all Hindus on a platform that all Mus11ms, christians are out to destory hindu1sm, does not sound much diffrent from the philosophy of LeT.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Lalu-Advani-Varun
by Numb Nut on Apr 19, 2009 01:01 PM
so you mean to say to get votes, it is ok to criminalize and alienate an entire community.
Re: Re: Lalu-Advani-Varun
by Numb Nut on Apr 19, 2009 12:32 PM
same can be said for North/South divide as well, South Indians have totally diffrent culture from North Indians. So do they want to form separate countries ? incompatibility does not mean eternal problems, tell me one region in world which has not witnessed extremism, terror1sm, war etc efforsts have to be made to integrate and in this regard BJP has made the problem worse.
Re: Re: Re: Lalu-Advani-Varun
by naresh kumar on Apr 19, 2009 01:17 PM
You Numb nut India belonged to Hindus including sikhs, jains etc. All others have come from european and Arab countries
Re: Re: Re: Lalu-Advani-Varun
by JGN on Apr 19, 2009 12:43 PM
Numb Nut, where is the North-South divide? Who has aked for separate Country? Is there any 1slamic country which is "Secular" (don't give me the example of Turkey). Then what makes you to beleive that Mus1ims in India would prefer "Secularism" ??
The ethnic cleansing of Kashmiri Pandits took place long before the demolition of the disputed structure. Why don't you talk about that also?? When you are in majority, you want to implose your laws on every one but when you are in minority, you want to enjoy the benefits of 'secularism'. Is this not double standards??
Re: Re: Re: Re: Lalu-Advani-Varun
by Numb Nut on Apr 19, 2009 12:45 PM
so never heard of tamil nadu separatism issue in 1960s when the northie politicians wanted to impose Hindi all over India.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Lalu-Advani-Varun
by JGN on Apr 19, 2009 12:54 PM
Yes, there was anti-Hindi agitation in TN is the late 1960s but they never wanted a seperate country. Have you heard Political leader of any significance asking for a seperate South India?? Why are you bluffing??
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Lalu-Advani-Varun
by JGN on Apr 19, 2009 12:58 PM
Periyar passed away long back. Then I think you have not heard of Dr. Ali Sinah or Anwar Ibrahim or Robert Spencer!!!!
Re: Re: Re: Re: Lalu-Advani-Varun
by Numb Nut on Apr 19, 2009 12:46 PM
why are you so bothered about other countries, the so called tolerant India institutionalized racism for 1000s of years via caste system and even today, not a single brahmin guru will openly admit dalits to mutts nor will he say openly that dalit is equal to a brahmin. Those in glass houses should not throw stones at others.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Lalu-Advani-Varun
by JGN on Apr 19, 2009 01:05 PM
The problem of 1slamic extremism exists in all Countries where there are Mus1ims, whether your are in majority or minorty. When you are in majoirty, you start fights between Sunnnis, shiiias, Ahmediyas, Bahaiis, Khurds, etc and when you are in minority you fight with H1ndus, X'tians, Buddhists, etc!!!
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Lalu-Advani-Varun
by Numb Nut on Apr 19, 2009 12:59 PM
racism and casteism are both based on birth, you cannot caste your caste or your colour after your birth.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Lalu-Advani-Varun
by dudehere on Apr 19, 2009 01:08 PM
besides hinduism we know that casteism is wrong thats y its eradicated form cities.. what about u r shia sunni who blast each other even in cities...
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Lalu-Advani-Varun
by Numb Nut on Apr 19, 2009 12:59 PM
yes exploitation exists in all religion , so why go on and on only about islam, it exists in great degree in Hindu1sm too and yet the BJP wallahs want to put that all problems in India are cuased by Islamic extremism .
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Lalu-Advani-Varun
by GODAVARTI RAmesh on Apr 19, 2009 01:02 PM
Numb nut dont jump from one topic to another. Answer jgn. when did south ask for seperate nation?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Lalu-Advani-Varun
by naresh kumar on Apr 19, 2009 01:21 PM
You bugger you paki why you are bothered about India. India was Hindu Country and will remain so. If you want to stay in India you have to respect Hinduism. You dont' have to tell us to respect other religions, cause we are known for respecting all the religions.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Lalu-Advani-Varun
by JGN on Apr 19, 2009 12:56 PM
There is no racism in India. What about your Afjlaf and Ashraf? Sunnnis are blasting Shiias even in Saudi Arabia!!! What a great re1igion you have!!!!
Caste sytem exists in 1slam and X'tianity. Search web for more deatils. Slavery is justified in both the B1ble and the Quraan.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Lalu-Advani-Varun
by JGN on Apr 19, 2009 01:02 PM
So you mean to say that an Ashraf can become Ajlaf after birth!!! Or an Ahmediya will become a Sunni or Shiia!!!!!
If weak PM MMS says that post ranjanmabhoomi issue riots are a dirty blot on the country, then what was he doing in the Cabinet of the then Congress government then? He never resigned nor he threatened to do so. On the other hand he has gone on record saying that he would have resigned if the Nuke deal had not passed. SPEAKS FOR HIS DUPLICITY.
Re: Advani can do it.
by Manjunath Srikantiah on Apr 19, 2009 10:47 AM
Congis has amazing net work of Swiss bank accounts and hence they piss in their pants whenever the talk of black money in swiss bank accounts are mentioned.
Re: Advani can do it.
by Jiggs on Apr 19, 2009 10:29 AM
Advani was exonerated by non other then the Courts on this matter. If you have the guts send me your true name, your address and details. I will ask the courts to answer your questions.
