Re: elections r good
by Steeve B on Apr 16, 2009 03:09 AM
I would say vote selfishly. Think about your future before voting. India is full of people who will sell their vote for Rs. 50 or 1 bottle of desi daru. All educated people need to understand that if they don’t vote, they will have an MP that doesn’t represent them.
In UP people are now fed up with Maya, Mulayam & Amar Singh. In the last by-election of assembly Maya lost due to low percentage of voting and Upper cast voters /Brahmins stayed indoor and not come to vote. Now the upper caste voters who voted for BSP are drifting away from BSP and this LS election they are going to vote for BJP. Congress is only in few gandhi family seats. Wind has already started in UP in favour of BJP and its alliance with Ajit Singh Lokdal also help BJP to get more kissan vote and more seats. Middle class and salaried class are happy with the proposal of BJP to exempt upto 3.00 lakh from Income Tax and other welfare measures declared in the Manifesto of BJP. Moreover price rise of daily need items/food items & Varun Gandhi episode would also have some impact in the voting pattern. It will be a 3 way neck to neck fight between BJP, SP and BSP in U.P this time with BJP having an upper-hand. This is the ground situation in UP now.
Indian politics is going through a transition period. The things will start getting stabilised after a decade when BJP really becomes a very dominant party through the constructive work being carried out by RSS. Today people say that BJP is losing ground. However, they forget that this is the only national party which has grown after independance. That is the reason I say it will take some more time for the things to get stabilised.
Sheela has been the resident Congress cheerleader at Rediff.com. Now is she changing her tune because it is looking likely that the Congress will lose?
Re: Sheela Bhatt: deserting a sinking ship?
by deep dar on Apr 15, 2009 10:04 AM
In fact, Cong has employed Rediff to take care of its e-campaign in Guj...
Sheela B*tch is trying her best to "sway the voters" by her cheap editorials towards Cong.
24/7 News Network: The Special Investigation Team (SIT), appointed by the Supreme Court, has severely pulled up Social Activist Teesta Setalvad and several other NGOs for cooking up stories on Gujarat riots. The SIT led by former CBI Director RK Raghavan, told the apex court that Teesta and the NGOs, have falsely fabricated the stories of killing and violence including the killing of a pregnant woman and his foetus, which never took place. The SIT also exonerated then police chief P C Pandey.
According to the SIT, Teesta had cooked up stories, levelled false charges and then came up with false witnesses to give evidences about imaginary incidents. While, PC Pandy was helping the victims of Gulbarg Society case, Teesta and the NGOs accused him of inciting the mob.
The SIT also revealed that at least 22 witnesses, who had submitted affidavits related to Gujarat riots had nothing to do with the incidents and were tutored by Teesta Setalvad. It was Teesta, who handed over the affidavits to them.
The SIT found several incidents raked up by Teesta and her supporter NGOs as fake and fabricated. Prominent among them was the gangrape of a pregnant Muslim woman Kausar Banu by a mob, who allegedly gouged out the foetus with sharp weapons. The SIT concluded that such an incident never occurred.
The SIT also termed the stories like dumping of dead bodies into a well by rioters at Naroda Patiya and the police involvement in the killing of British Nationals.
Re: SHAME ON THAT LADY(!).
by pope fan on Apr 15, 2009 08:54 AM
It is a little too much to call Teesta Khan a 'lady'. There are other names that would be more appropriate for her. One rhymes with 'rich'.
Re: SHAME ON THAT LADY(!).
by poovannan ganapathy on Apr 15, 2009 03:46 PM
Teesta's Rebuttal to Times of India report, dated April 14, 2009 The report in the The Times of India, Mumbai edition dated April 14, 2009 and reportedly published prominently in all the newspapers editions titled “NGOS, Teesta spiced up Gujarat riots cases: SIT” is clear example of manipulative reportage. It is also a report aimed to deliberately distort and damage the reputation of a citizens’ legal rights group working assiduously to ensure legal support to victims of the Gujarat carnage of 2002, ( as also the victims of bomb blasts of 2006, 2009 and the Kandhmals victims). The allegations imputed by reporter Dhananjay Mahapatra who was present in the Supreme Court in the first para of his report to the Special Investigative Team (SIT) appointed by the Supreme Court are in fact extracted from a four page note circulated by Ms Hemantika Wahi for the Gujarat Government, a copy of which is annexed here. It is not a note prepared by the Special Investigation Team led by RK Raghavan. Shri Raghavan was not present in the Supreme Court, yet there is a deliberate attempt by Mahapatra to impute that Raghavan was present in the court and that he as chairperson of SIT, himself, in person, or in writing made these allegations. This is a clever distortion of the proceedings in the Supreme Court aimed to create a public perception that Setalvad and the CJP misled the apex court. The detailed report of SIT submitted to the Supreme Court on March 6, 2007 has not been available for st
Re: Re: SHAME ON THAT LADY(!).
by poovannan ganapathy on Apr 15, 2009 03:53 PM
The detailed report of SIT submitted to the Supreme Court on March 6, 2007 has not been available for study either to National Human Rights Commission (NHRC), the petitioners in this case, or the Citizens for Justice and Peace (CJP) who have intervened in this critical matter or to any in the media. In its written note that the Gujarat state circulated in court yesterday, the state has given its brief comments on the SIT report. In para four of this note the Gujarat government note refers to alleged statements made by some witnesses in the Gulberg case before SIT that name accused other than those named by them in the written statements that were (according to the state of Gujarat) given to them by Teesta Setalvad and advocates. This is the version of the Gujarat state. Besides this, Mukhul Rohatgi tried to make a populaist speech in court saying that incidents like the Kauser Bano case etc never happened. Justice Pasiath intervened stating that they were not interested in personal allegations and only ensuring that, like in the course of the Zahira Shaikh case, the trials are fair, the truth comes out and the course of justice is served.
Re: Re: SHAME ON THAT LADY(!).
by poovannan ganapathy on Apr 15, 2009 03:53 PM
The detailed report of SIT submitted to the Supreme Court on March 6, 2007 has not been available for study either to National Human Rights Commission (NHRC), the petitioners in this case, or the Citizens for Justice and Peace (CJP) who have intervened in this critical matter or to any in the media. In its written note that the Gujarat state circulated in court yesterday, the state has given its brief comments on the SIT report. In para four of this note the Gujarat government note refers to alleged statements made by some witnesses in the Gulberg case before SIT that name accused other than those named by them in the written statements that were (according to the state of Gujarat) given to them by Teesta Setalvad and advocates. This is the version of the Gujarat state. Besides this, Mukhul Rohatgi tried to make a populaist speech in court saying that incidents like the Kauser Bano case etc never happened. Justice Pasiath intervened stating that they were not interested in personal allegations and only ensuring that, like in the course of the Zahira Shaikh case, the trials are fair, the truth comes out and the course of justice is served.
Re: Re: Re: SHAME ON THAT LADY(!).
by poovannan ganapathy on Apr 15, 2009 03:54 PM
It appears that the reporter spoke to Rohatgi outside the court himself and spiced up the story. The result is a report that especially promotes the case made by the Gujarat government itself, It may have been pertinent for the court reporter of a responsible publication to point out to its readers that: The arrests of minister Dr Maya Kodnani and Dr Jaideep Patel in the past weeks were on the basis of SIT re-investigations. Twelve FIRs filed by witnesses naming these accused in 2002 had been clubbed into a magnum FIR by the Ahmedabad crime branch that had dropped the names of these powerful accused; The arrests of investigating officer KG Erda in the Gulberg case and of other policemen in the other cases over the past months has meant the claims of witness survivors and legal rights groups, prima facie, are valid; That this was one of the issues why the apex court has chosen to appoint SIT, the full scale subversion of the process of justice, from the removal of names of accused who’s names appeared in earlier statements simply because they enjoyed political patronage; the appointment of prosecutors with allegiances to the BJP and VHP which meant instead of promoting fair trial they sided with the politically powerful and protected accused; More pertinently the tragic slaying of pregnant Kauser Bano at Naroda Patiya after slitting her womb was reported in Deccan Herald,(April 17, 2004) and The Indian Express, (March 23,2005) among others apart from finding place in in
Re: Re: Re: Re: SHAME ON THAT LADY(!).
by poovannan ganapathy on Apr 15, 2009 03:56 PM
Identical allegations were made about Teesta Setalvad and the CJP during the course of the Best Bakery Trial following which Setalvad’s application to the apex court for a full fledged inquiry led to a Registrar’s investigation that exonerated Setalvad and the CJP triumphantly; In the interests of fair reportage and to ensure that the reputation of a citizens group committed to equity and justice is not deliberately vitiated before the trials commence, the newspaper should carry this rebuttal in full. A failure to do so will result in the columns of a national newspaper being used to distort facts, shape public perception and seek to influence the outcome of due process of law and justice to the victims of mass murder. Citizens for Justice and Peace
These medias opinion poll & sold medias are creating havoc among the public & try to push them to mandate single largest party mostly for Congress, but how we accept this opinion poll taken from 50000 people from 543 constituency means almost 95 to 100 person per constituency (each constituency has average 12 to 14 lacs vote.)None of the media explains about the way opinion poll done & about its authenticty how it can be true. Asking questions to 100 person of differnt community & cast, women , young etc represents whole constituency? No way it can be believed. Remember in last all elections including 2004 election media was failed in their opinion poll. Thats why they are writing at the end that miracle can happened. They are making joke to the people if they vote out for one party/alliance by telling that miracle happened. Don't beleieve on these & vote to whom do you feel they will give stable government.
Re: Fractured mandate.
by deep dar on Apr 15, 2009 10:05 AM
Media is trying its best to stop people from going towards BJP...but ppl r wise enough to see through this...as was seen in Guj.
PM Manmohan words that independent candidates are spoilers are not expected out of him.
Don't know what has happened to this architect of privatisation in Narasimha Rao's cabinet that he has totally become a non identity. While people regard him as agood human being, he has been totally ineffective.
Now his statement against indepedendents is really unwarranted when people like Capt Gopinath and Meera Sanayal have set standards in their professional career.
PM himself does not know that he himself has never won public vote and is from Rajya Sabha.
Request PM not to insult and create shame for professionals.
Re: PM Manmohan words against independents shame for professional
by Umashanker Kapoor on Apr 15, 2009 09:02 AM
whenthe major 2 parties are in fray, the party that fears defeat props up an independant candidate, so that the votes get divided thereby get some hope of winning the election. when the major parties are not in fray, and only one party is contesting then the matter is different. but when the major parties are contesting then the independants are spoilers, there is no doubt about it.
Re: Re: PM Manmohan words against independents shame for professi
by R Raman on Apr 15, 2009 03:54 PM
Your logic may be correct. But PM should not be saying this. Its democracy and anyone can contest. For the first time professionals like Capt Gopi and Meera sanyal have come forward
Re: PM Manmohan words against independents shame for professional
by Susanta Samantaray on Apr 15, 2009 07:07 AM
insult to indian democracy if pm has actually said that. Shame.
Re: Re: PM Manmohan words against independents shame for professi
by R Raman on Apr 15, 2009 03:55 PM
PM did say that. And Meera Sanyal has reverted saying remarks are undesired.
