If you read the life of Christ and Krishna, you can see striking similarities in their life!! Christ and Krishna - the name itself has some common origin. Both Christ and Krishna - born in hiding / jail All children born in the year they were born - were killed to target the life of Christ/Krishna. Kamsa killed all children born in the same period Krishna was born. Likewise, Herodos killed all children born in the same period as Christ. They both performed miracles in the very early age. Krishna killed Serpent and Jesus performed his first miracle in wedding place. Both Krishna and Christ had to migrate to a safer place for survival. Both Krishna & Christ preached to the world some truths to guide the world. What Christ said can be seen in the Bible and Krishna's advices can be seen in Bhagwat Gita. Both were killed ascended into heaven. Both said they will come again. Christ said he will come again to redeem the world and Krishna said, whenever the unrightousness pervades, he will incarnate again.
To my Hindu brothers, I have an advice, if time permits, read Gita and Bible and then you judge your thinking and actions. By recognizing the Christians you are recognizing the very Hindus, the real Hindus.
I would like to quote here the words of Swami Vivakananda: A real Hindu is one who accepts all the religions in the world - by praying in Mosque of a Mohammedan, kneeling before the cross of a Christian ... it can be read in the Complete Works I.
Re: Christ and Krishna
by Fried Yakov on Apr 14, 2009 06:08 AM
Hinduism obviously pre-dates Christianity, and so would it not be good if the Christians instead of condemning the Hindoos, started respecting the Hindoo religion?????
Re: Re: Christ and Krishna
by Sameer Bhagwat on Apr 14, 2009 06:50 AM
Hindusim is not a religion its a way of life.. with many interpretations and many gods.. In that sense everyone is a Hindu or vice versa.
Re: Christ and Krishna
by Fried Yakov on Apr 14, 2009 06:11 AM
Btw, I am also a Christian, but I believe that Christianity still has to ive its due respect to Hindooism
Re: Christ and Krishna
by ravi kapur on Apr 14, 2009 06:30 AM
Right dear!,
As standard you again forgot to answer my questions about jesus being a jew and not chrstian and different groups (jews, catholic, baptist ...) following the same bible and jesus yet hate each other.
Regarding jesus and hinduism.
Jesus told everyone to drink and eat meat which hinduism never preached.
Jesus was killed but krishna died to fulfill his previous birth karma.Also jesus was not born in hiding just to make clear.
Jesus didnot believed in rebirth while hinduism does.
Jesus believed in burying the dead whle hinduism believes in burning the dead.
Jesus showed miracle by giving birth to a dead girl while krishna never agreed to that.
Jesus said that he is the only path to god but hinduism never agrees to that.
Reharding the miracles, in indian history more miracles are performed by many saints,we dont consider them all equal to krishna.
Re: Re: Re: Christ and Krishna
by aurora borealis on Apr 14, 2009 06:54 AM
Hahahahha...no Jesus didnt give birth to a dead girl of course. He brought the dead back to life, maybe thats what he meant.. I am pretty sure Jesus brought a guy named Lazarus back from the dead.
But this similarity between Christ and Krishna, including the names, is something many people talk about.
In an apparent reference to Congress president Sonia Gandhi’s foreign roots, Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi Monday attacked her, saying that she had eaten the “salt of the country” but was claiming that the country faced an “internal threat”. “Sonia Gandhi is in India for the last 30 years eating the salt of the country. And she is saying that the country faces threat from inside. Is she paying back to the country in this way?” Modi, a senior Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) leader asked while addressing a rally in Ranchi Monday.
Modi also came down heavily on Prime Minister Manmohan Singh.
“Manmohan Singh had said that he was most disturbed when the nuclear deal with US got stuck. Was Manmohan disturbed when terrorists attacked Mumbai? Manmohan is happy to play in the lap of United States,” Modi said.
Re: Modi replies to Sonia
by Suresh Rajendran on Apr 14, 2009 05:37 AM
this is the problem with the saffron party, they take responsibility for everything. sonia just mentioned internal threat..why is BJP jumping guns, why that guilty feeling.
internal threat to me is indian mujahideen, the maoist, ulfa...why is modi and advani replying for this.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Modi replies to Sonia
by aurora borealis on Apr 14, 2009 06:36 AM
Its just like jumping guns by one community when someone says he will kill anyone who threatens Heendoos. Now you get the message.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Modi replies to Sonia
by Suresh Rajendran on Apr 14, 2009 07:38 AM
well I believe what that ' someone' said he said it was 'doctored' meaning he did not approve of what was said in the video.
so..I am not even bothered about that.
the problem with us we have succesfully deviated from the topic.
the main topic, BJP keeps kindly emotions on indian people for vote. the latest is sending troops to pakisthan ...common BJP way to go...
KP, you are mistaken if you think all Hindus support the e3xtremist RSS/ VHP/ Bajrangdal and the fundementalist party BJP. If that is the case how come there are so many political parties in India?
The extremism of the RSS and their outfits is a reality in India, along with the Islamist extremism. But that does not mean all Indians support it. Many Hindus can see the danger of majoritarian extremism/ fundementalism and where it has taken a country like Pakistan- to perdition.
In india what the extremist movements like RSS or SIMI have is a crude semi-literate ideology of identity politics, and they draw on the inferiority complex, inherent violent nature, blood-lust of some people. That project has no real future and is bound to fail. Have a heart.
Re: Have a Heart, It can't happen in India
by aurora borealis on Apr 14, 2009 06:40 AM
Hindus accept whenever another Hindu is wrong. But its so very tough to make Muslims understand where they are wrong. They will argue on everything starting from Godhra to 9/11 to 26/11. Ask them if they think any Muslims did any atrocities anytime, anywhere, and watch them go tongue-tied.
A few words to the antichrists: Look like, you are tired of critisizing Islam and terrorism are now turning against Christians. Christians lands are lands of opportunities - look at US, UK, Australia. They accept Hindus to their fold and the Hindus emigrating to these countries get new opportunities to grow in life. They are enjoying more rights than their counter part christians in India. They can build a temple and go and worship there fearing none. If they are subject to discrimination in these countries, they can seek legal help. The Governments there, are protecting these Hindus. These Hindus can also contribute their money to parties like VHP, BJP etc. without any interference from these Governments. No Questions asked. This is called freedom. Look at the christians in Bihar, so many christians are still living in camps protected by the honest and sincere Hindus brothers there - can we compare their freedom to the freedom the Hindus are enjoying in the christian lands!! Our constitution grants rights to its citizens to believe in any religion and practice any religion. Yet, some fundamentalists are engaged in senseless killing of christians because they speak the Word of God. To get respect as a human being and to be honored many low cast hindus are turning to Christianity. It is their own decision. If the so-called fundamentalists are willing, why not they help these poor people and educate them and treat them equal
Re: a few words to AntiChrists
by Harish on Apr 14, 2009 04:56 AM
once upon a time Bharat, a wealthy land was the land of opportunity for Christians... They came in the guise of trade took advantage of the soft heartedness and plundered the land till there was nothing left
Re: Re: a few words to AntiChrists
by k p on Apr 14, 2009 05:15 AM
Our India was scattered and divided in hundreds of small countries, fighting each other. The English rule united us and we became One India. We have hundreds of languages. So we are southies and northies!! The English people established a common language for us to communicate. East India company came to India not to spread Christianity. They came to do business. Yes, they took away very valuable things from our country, I agree with your observation. I am not averse to accept facts. But US, UK, Australia, NZ etc are flurishing not because of some of the items we lost from our King's possessions. Actually, the Kings lost some valuables including Kohinoor. The poor people lost nothing. They learned English, got better jobs and opportunities. They only gained. These countries are not flurishing today because of the wealth we lost some 300 years ago. Even after 300 years, we are fighting each other and engaged in destroying places of worships, Holy books etc. We are not thinking of respecting each other and accepting each other's values. Rather, today, the so called fundamentalists are calling Jihads and engaged in merceyless killing of innocent tribal people who became christians only to enjoy some pride and respect in life. Why cannot the fundamentalists abolish the cast system and respect the low cast Hindus just as they respect the Brahmins? It is insanity!
Re: Re: a few words to AntiChrists
by Sameer Bhagwat on Apr 14, 2009 05:16 AM
Harish,
This is taken out of context.The plundering was done by armies -there was no religion associated with it. It's unfair to call all of Britain -Christians. They happened to be Christians.
Christians in general are peace loving people. Sure there are scandals are stuff, but they are individuals acting crazy .. in general the Christians are a secular and non violent religion. You can't show one error in Jesus teachings..
Re: a few words to AntiChrists
by Devadatta Bhaumik on Apr 14, 2009 05:17 AM
KP, you are mistaken if you think all Hindus support the e3xtremsit RSS/ VHP/ Bajrangdal and the fundementalist party BJP. If that is the case how come there are so many politocal parties in India?
The extremism of the RSS and their outfits is a reality in India, along with the Islamist extremism. But that does not mean all Indians support it. Many Hindus can see the danger of majoritarian extremism/ fundementalism and where it has taken a country like Pakistan- to perdition.
In india what the extremist movements like RSS or SIMI have is a crude semi-literate ideology of identity politics, and they draw on the inferiority complex of some people. That project has no real future and is bound to fail. have a heart.
Re: a few words to AntiChrists
by ravi kapur on Apr 14, 2009 05:17 AM
Alright, Last time was trade and this tie its religion.
Nice try man to enter this country. But have you watched "Da Vinci Code". Is everything true in there that jesus and mary were together???
I think you guys need to find something stronger because christianity in itself is so much divided into jews and catholics and ...... Why dont u guys from US, Australia, U.K and .... sit together and decide once who jesus was and what he said and then come to india to tell the people. U know it avoids the confusion.
Re: Re: a few words to AntiChrists
by Lloyd Sequeira on Apr 14, 2009 05:34 AM
Get ur facts correct before u write man. U are the one who seems confused not the christians. Don't write anything just for the sake of writing.
Re: Re: a few words to AntiChrists
by Sameer Bhagwat on Apr 14, 2009 05:23 AM
Ravi,
I guess you are mistaken. There was and is only one Jesus and Jews are not Christians. Its fairly simple the differences are only in the doctrine or the order of worship. Else Christains as I understand just follow one Bible. Different groups are formed based on their interpretation of the Bible. It is not meant to conquer countries or convert people by force. Infact Jesus taught about love.
Re: Re: Re: a few words to AntiChrists
by ravi kapur on Apr 14, 2009 05:38 AM
I thought Jesus was a jew. Wasnt he? And you guys also cannot interpret the bible with one meaning.
Re: Re: Re: Re: a few words to AntiChrists
by ravi kapur on Apr 14, 2009 05:40 AM
Also you know different groups that are formed hate each other. Which one shall i follow? Its getting confusing!
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: a few words to AntiChrists
by Sameer Bhagwat on Apr 14, 2009 06:41 AM
Jesus was a Jew by birth. But Chhristanity and Jewism are not the same thing. Try and understand what we are saying first. Jesus birth was the end of Jewism as he saw it and the birth of Christianity as he was the Messiah.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: a few words to AntiChrists
by k p on Apr 14, 2009 05:42 AM
If you read the life of Christ and Krishna, you can see striking similarities in their life!! Christ and Krishna - the name itself has some common origin. Both Christ and Krishna - born in hiding / jail All children born in the year they were born - were killed to target the life of Christ/Krishna. Kamsa killed all children born in the same period Krishna was born. Likewise, Herodos killed all children born in the same period as Christ. They both performed miracles in the very early age. Krishna killed Serpent and Jesus performed his first miracle in wedding place. Both Krishna and Christ had to migrate to a safer place for survival. Both Krishna & Christ preached to the world some truths to guide the world. What Christ said can be seen in the Bible and Krishna's advices can be seen in Bhagwat Gita. Both were killed ascended into heaven. Both said they will come again. Christ said he will come again to redeem the world and Krishna said, whenever the unrightousness pervades, he will incarnate again.
To my Hindu brothers, I have an advice, if time permits, read Gita and Bible and then you judge your thinking and actions. By recognizing the Christians you are recognizing the very Hindus, the real Hindus.
I would like to quote here the words of Swami Vivakananda: A real Hindu is one who accepts all the religions in the world - by praying in Mosque of a Mohammedan, kneeling before the cross of a Christian ... it can be read in the Complete Works I.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: a few words to AntiChrists
by ravi kapur on Apr 14, 2009 06:16 AM
Right dear!,
As standard you again forgot to answer my questions about jesus being a jew and not chrstian and different groups following the same bible and jesus hate each other.
Regarding jesus and hinduism.
Jesus told everyone to drink and eat meat which hinduism never preached.
Jesus was killed but krishna died to fulfill his previous birth karma.Also jesus was not born in hiding just to make clear.
Jesus didnot believed in rebirth while hinduism does.
Jesus believed in burying the dead whle hinduism believes in burning the dead.
Jesus showed miracle by giving birth to a dead girl while krishna never agreed to that.
Jesus said that he is the only path to god but hinduism never agrees to that. Reharding the miracles, in indian history more miracles are performed by many saints,we dont consider them all equal to krishna.
Re: a few words to AntiChrists
by bala murugan on Apr 14, 2009 06:20 AM
In India, everyone is equal . It is the only country which protected ancient PERSIANS - ZOROASTRIAN religion community. So called people with surnames TATAs,Wadias,Contractors,Engineers. We have Hindus,Muslims,Xtians,Sikhs,Buddhists,Jain,Jew,Buddhist,Zoroastrians etc
What else u need?
The name of RED CROSS group in India is RED CROSS whereas in Islamic countries it is called RED CRESCENT.
Anyone can become PM,President.
Challenge to xtians: 1. Can u go to Muslims house in India and beg to them for xtian conversion?
BJP wants to comit india suicide by attacking pakistan. Indian security forces are very well aware of pak armed forces capabilities and there missile and nuke program is far suerior then indias. As a matter of fact india is worried about pak forces capabilities and pressuing west specially to put pak under pressure there military programs. These pak force are not the one that india faced during 70's BJP should remember the recent PAF posture after mumbai attack and there capabilities as a fighting unit plus the core of pak forces men are from martial belt of the sub continent and the troops are already battle ready due to insurgencies in the tribal area. You dont want to corner an already wounded tiger it may just take the whole india down with it. All sane indians should vote for much liberal non fanatic Congress part,vote for BJP is like voting for extremist version of Taliban
Re: Re: BJP suicidal for india
by Don johnson on Apr 14, 2009 05:06 AM
oh yeh forgot we also have to revenge the gujrat so this time if you attack pakistan we make sure we burn u sckas to hell. We learnt the burning human alives from Hindu fantatics good for the reminder.I dare indina fanatics to attack pakistan we will run u ants over this time
A few words to the antichrists: Look like, you are tired of critisizing Islam and terrorism are now turning against Christians. Christians lands are lands of opportunities - look at US, UK, Australia. They accept Hindus to their fold and the Hindus emigrating to these countries get new opportunities to grow in life. They are enjoying more rights than their counter part christians in India. They can build a temple and go and worship there fearing none. If they are subject to discrimination in these countries, they can seek legal help. The Governments there, are protecting these Hindus. These Hindus can also contribute their money to parties like VHP, BJP etc. without any interference from these Governments. No Questions asked. This is called freedom. Look at the christians in Bihar, so many christians are still living in camps protected by the honest and sincere Hindus brothers there - can we compare their freedom to the freedom the Hindus are enjoying in the christian lands!! Our constitution grants rights to its citizens to believe in any religion and practice any religion. Yet, some fundamentalists are engaged in senseless killing of christians because they speak the Word of God. To get respect as a human being and to be honored many low cast hindus are turning to Christianity. It is their own decision. If the so-called fundamentalists are willing, why not they help these poor people and educate them and treat them equal.
Re: Vote only congress And SP.
by Prashant Naikwade on Apr 14, 2009 04:44 AM
Your shameful Pakistani army weren't even ready to come forward to take and bury your own 2000 died soldiers ie the nature of real Pakistanies.
Re: Vote only congress And SP.
by Don johnson on Apr 14, 2009 04:38 AM
BJP wants to comit india suicide by attacking pakistan. Indian security forces are very well aware of pak armed forces capabilities and there missile and nuke program is far suerior then indias. As a matter of fact india is worried about pak forces capabilities and pressuing west specially to put pak under pressure there military programs. These pak force are not the one that india faced during 70's BJP should remember the recent PAF posture after mumbai attack and there capabilities as a fighting unit plus the core of pak forces men are from martial belt of the sub continent and the troops are already battle ready due to insurgencies in the tribal area. You dont want to corner an already wounded tiger it may just take the whole india down with it. All sane indians should vote for much liberal non fanatic Congress part,vote for BJP is like voting for extremist version of Taliban
Re: Re: Vote only congress And SP.
by Prashant Naikwade on Apr 14, 2009 04:52 AM
1)Your friend congress has approached to west, when BJP will come to the power it will directly take action against you. 2) You fools are calling that your PF is battle ready by fighting with insugents, but Pakistan has put their knees on the floor by allowing them to force their own laws and administration.
