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Bodh Ramdeo
Stone-age manifesto
by Bodh Ramdeo on Apr 13, 2009 03:51 AM  | Hide replies

Last time I heard it was the scumbag Communists who first came out with such moribund manifesto and the results are there for everyone to see- from being India's most developed state, Bengal became an underdeveloped cesspool of poverty and squalor. It seems Mulayam is only trying to best his Commie pals of the 3rd Front. Heck, with 'leaders' like these, poor India has only way to go- down, down down- like Dungwalla Lalu Prasad did during his goonda rule of poor Bihar. May not be such a bad thing though, considering that the overwhelming majority of the masses are living in conditions more suited to the 12th century than the 21st century.

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D S
Re: Stone-age manifesto
by D S on Apr 13, 2009 04:35 AM
anyone can preach gospel for ulterior purpose includes mulayam and BJP-congress head. Read about progress and agrezi have no connecton below.

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Ashish Srivastava
seriously
by Ashish Srivastava on Apr 13, 2009 03:50 AM  | Hide replies

god help india.. we have politicians who are hell bent on taking this country in the reverse direction.. its the citizens who have to step forward and take the lead.. our leaders are no good..

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Bodh Ramdeo
Re: seriously
by Bodh Ramdeo on Apr 13, 2009 03:53 AM
It's the citizens who vote for prehistoric morons like these - they deserve the govt they get.

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D S
Only NRI children should be given concessions
by D S on Apr 13, 2009 03:14 AM  | Hide replies

Only NRI children should be given concession due to few last generation mistakes. NRI children should be given job/admission based on their foreign language skills until they learn/pick Indian language skills. That is recovery.

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D S
Re: Only NRI children should be given concessions
by D S on Apr 13, 2009 03:16 AM
the way priyanka rushed to slam shows she belong to same idiot and opportunis club as Mulayam. Such useless people like Rahul and Priyanka and sonia have their faces forced on us due to crime-money mafia politics.

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D S
sharad - about supporting collie culture
by D S on Apr 13, 2009 02:54 AM

sharad, even pii_gs eat food (you know which kind),
you can choose for your next generation what they depend on. because last generation was screwed by the one in past. For next generation even the pii_gs can decide to eat corn instead of ...

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Kamala Advani
RELIGIOUS AND CASTIST ANIMALS OF BJP AND SP FIGHTING EACH OTHER
by Kamala Advani on Apr 13, 2009 02:16 AM  | Hide replies

THESE ANIMALS SHOULD BE IN JAIL!!!

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D S
Re: RELIGIOUS AND CASTIST ANIMALS OF BJP AND SP FIGHTING EACH OTH
by D S on Apr 13, 2009 02:17 AM
congress is far worse. We support Maya.

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Guest
why english....
by Guest on Apr 13, 2009 01:58 AM  | Hide replies

Why not Mandarin, its the most spoken language in the world. Nobody in europe apart from british speak English. Every nation preserves and tries to stick to their national language. The French hate speaking in english, The Germans stick to german but we Indians for some strange reason want to speak english. I understand that not all indians speak hindi, for that matter its not my mother tongue but it is a language more people in india understand than english. Hindi, Bengali, Punjabi, Marathi and Tamil are the 3rd, 7th, 16th and 19th most spoken languages in the world. But we forget all that and speak english(If the indians stop speaking english, it wont be among the top 5 spoken language). why cant we be proud of our languages and make the world speak it rather than follow something alien and be second class speakers? I dont support mulayam but definately think using a local language is better for the great masses and taking us out of the colonial mentality.

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Sharad
Re: why english....
by Sharad on Apr 13, 2009 02:19 AM
How many languages do you want Indians to be proud of ? 22 languages? Do what being proud of 22 languages?

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magic
Re: Re: why english....
by magic on Apr 13, 2009 02:25 AM
most of the languages in india have a single origin that is sensible and competant. nways why not be proud of our diversity? what sense does it make to be proud of a foreign language and look doun on our diversity?

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Sharad
Re: Re: Re: why english....
by Sharad on Apr 13, 2009 02:39 AM
I am proud of my heritage, but I am going to be PRACTICAL in a modern world. Cynical pride takes me nowhere unless it is backed by action (achievement). I find citizens of my country are just proud without action. I don't want get lulled into a false sense of pride.

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magic
Re: Re: Re: Re: why english....
by magic on Apr 13, 2009 02:51 AM
Sharad, not even 25% of the world populations speaks english. Farm and construction sectors add much more to our economy that BPO. The choice is yours, what do you want to select not just to survive but be a leader in the PRACTICAL world.

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magic
Re: Re: Re: Re: why english....
by magic on Apr 13, 2009 02:54 AM
Also most of the people , including me agree with you that we have to learn english, but to what extent? should we kill our languages, which more people speak, for a handful who think the whole world speaks english?

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D S
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: why english....
by D S on Apr 13, 2009 02:59 AM
certainly, learning Indian is good for next indian generation and create less dependence on imported pii_gs food.

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Sharad
Re: why english....
by Sharad on Apr 13, 2009 02:41 AM
I will learn Chinese only in order to be a spy, not out of love for their language. They are occupying vast tracts of my country's land (Aksai Chin). They are sponsoring my enemy Pakistan. I don't love the chinese.

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anthony gonsalves
Re: why english....
by anthony gonsalves on Apr 13, 2009 02:03 AM
I think you better keep your views to yourself,seems like you still dont get the point.Thank God you learnt english otherwise you would not be writing here.....doh?????

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D S
Re: Re: why english....
by D S on Apr 13, 2009 02:12 AM
Nope, thank god you know english,
he also wrote on mandarin website which you cannot read.

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magic
Re: Re: why english....
by magic on Apr 13, 2009 02:13 AM
I speak english because I am living in a majority english speaking country and cant so with any of the other languages mentioned above here. unfortunately a brtish man can do in india withour learning even the basic words of any local language. With all due respect anthony, I hope you get the point. Its not about english, french or hindi. Its about having something that is suitable for most Indians.

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Sanjay
Re: Re: why english....
by Sanjay on Apr 13, 2009 02:14 AM
Anthony you should have learned mathematics, well that was in Sanskrit too ancient of a tongue for you to speak. But since we are at it , It is shameless that the majority of people do not have access to computer because they have to learn another language when most of Indians are IT professional covering about 30-40% of the field.

I am certainly not a pure supporter of Mulayam Singh but he has a point, I feel it is surprised he is not spreading Urdu but Hindi, but having said that his point is very valid.. I also feel people who learn another language are wasting there time and trying to be good coolies, and never be progressive because they certainly don't know better about this country.

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Sharad
Re: Re: Re: why english....
by Sharad on Apr 13, 2009 02:22 AM
Sour Grapes, my friend, sour grapes. At least they making a GOOD LIVING being coolies, and bringing REVENUE to an impoverished country..

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Sanjay
Re: Re: Re: Re: why english....
by Sanjay on Apr 13, 2009 03:02 AM
sharad, you poor boy you may earn a living being in foreign country but your boss makes more money and exploits you. Please understand a person who is giving a job is getting more benefits then the servant doing the job. Or should we upgrade your clerical education for this? You do more to benefit foreign by working foreign then ever India, your taxes, addition living expenses extra go foreign.They would not have imported you if not for their benefit. So what little you or they send back we know it is pennies to the dollars worth of work you do?

After all we need to be more competitive and be again that nation in which every country in the world made destination to go.

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Sharad
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: why english....
by Sharad on Apr 13, 2009 03:19 AM
So what are you suggesting? That I should quit my job and start my own business. I think you are right. Everybody should be an EMPLOYER. There should be no EMPLOYEES. And nobody should WORK ABROAD. Immediately, all the Indian coolies working abroad should return home immediately, because their FOREIGN EMPLOYERS are making money out them. I am a little confused by your SOLUTION FOR INDIA.

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Sanjay
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: why english....
by Sanjay on Apr 13, 2009 04:23 AM
Dear Sharad,
The solution is not that you work foreign, is that why don't you have ability to get the same job in your home country and what is wrong with your nation? The solution lies in solving the basic problems of corruption, lack of honesty in this nation no other. When we talk of software companies they make many time the cost of labor on their finished products. They benefit the owners more, but we don't make finished products in this country. Working foreign is not the problem.The problem is why the lack of opportunities due to corruption, and the difficulty that the public does not get to benefit by progress.

The majority of Indians who speak their native language require also the modern technology in their own language(Hindi, Bengali,Marathi, Tamil, Gujarati, Kannada, etc) like, Chinese, Japanese, German, Italian, french need their native language to progress also means more jobs . We cannot read foreign literature and hope to understand the problems of this country, we have to look inward. Honesty makes progress.

Further if you learn something foreign and bring that technology India then that is beneficial.

If we had not a corrupt country there would be no need for people to go foreign to work at these numbers,then we as a nation bargain better because we would have better and more efficient technologies to sale, and we would make a collectively more profit.If We displace IT industry of USA,This takes a good government/educated public that benefits our nation.

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magic
Re: Re: Re: Re: why english....
by magic on Apr 13, 2009 02:28 AM
So you want to continue being a coolie, not think of getting better. nways, 75% of the world population that does not speak english dont want to be coolies.

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Sharad
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: why english....
by Sharad on Apr 13, 2009 02:45 AM
I don't mind being a coolie. I am making an honest day's living doing that, and by the way helping you survive (bringing the foreign currency with which the roads are being built, on which you proudly drive). Also, these roads are built by the real coolies (workers) and am proud to be associated with them.

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D S
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: why english....
by D S on Apr 13, 2009 02:52 AM
even pii_gs eat food,

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D S
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: why english....
by D S on Apr 13, 2009 02:52 AM
sharad, even pii_gs eat food, you can choose for your next generation what they depend on. because last generation was screwed by the one in past.


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Sanjay
Re: Re: Re: Re: why english....
by Sanjay on Apr 13, 2009 02:52 AM
When our educated run from this country saying everything good is foreign, What happens to this country? You feel no shame at your education, you are proud of the British who under their rule we had greatest period of drought and famine that never in three thousand years history faced, where we became a poor country from the richest, where our education system was stopped that produced the first surgeons, mathematician (sin, quadratic, logs), or you think shameless like this.

people who are educated can't get jobs because the government send their money foreign, the history of congress party was squandering foreign reserves in foreign bank account. We don't develop, our educated run to foreign because the lack of jobs and you say sour grapes. Our farmer commit suicide because of BT cotton and terminator genes sold by foreigners, we cant afford a universal irrigation system, but you feel like sour grapes. You say things are good foreign, but if you lived in America which American ever knows nothing about foreign, they could care less is the reason they progress because they look at their development not reader digest,and all about foreign.They don't think about slavery but see the betterment of their people. To do that we need computers in a language people speak and not servant speak, as no one who swore loyalty to crown like Mangal Pande who paid a bribe for his position has ever been fired since independence, who sent loot foreign, is this dirty system you keep?

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Sharad
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: why english....
by Sharad on Apr 13, 2009 03:27 AM
Action, my friend, action. There's no point blaming the British. We haven't done much for the last 62 years. Have we? Why blame somebody else for our INCAPABILITY? We are still shitting, peeing, and blowing our noses on the streets. We are not a very capable bunch, are we?

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deetee
mullah
by deetee on Apr 13, 2009 01:57 AM

mullah mulayalam wanted to give a sharia compatible manifesto that would please his main vote bank. last time around he wanted to make friday the official holiday instead of sunday.

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D S
Enna Rascal Mulayam
by D S on Apr 13, 2009 01:37 AM  | Hide replies

Re: mulayam buddhe ka dimaag kharab ho gaya hain
Enna Rascal Mulayam. I have already casted my vote for Dalit PM (Maya ) with whom Mulayam is loggerhead.

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D S
Re: Enna Rascal Mulayam
by D S on Apr 13, 2009 01:40 AM
if we Indians can learn German in Germany or French in France, we can learn whatever is Indian in India.
We don't need opportunist mulayam to tell us that.

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abhi joh
mulayam buddhe ka dimaag kharab ho gaya hain
by abhi joh on Apr 13, 2009 01:30 AM  | Hide replies

mulayam buddhe ka dimaag kharab ho gaya hain

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D S
Re: mulayam buddhe ka dimaag kharab ho gaya hain
by D S on Apr 13, 2009 01:35 AM
correct, if we can learn German in Germany or French in France, we can learn whatever is Indian. We don't need opportunist mulayam to tell us that.




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D S
Re: mulayam buddhe ka dimaag kharab ho gaya hain
by D S on Apr 13, 2009 01:36 AM
Enna Rascal Mulayam. I have already casted my vote for Dalit PM i.e Maya whom Mulayam is loggerhead.

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Paramesh
There is NO National language for India
by Paramesh on Apr 13, 2009 01:27 AM  | Hide replies

As per the constitution of India there is NO National language for India. What is recognized and defined by the constitution of India are a set of official languages. Hindi, English, Malayalam, Manipuri, Bengali, Tamizh, Kannada etc. are all official languages and each state can use any of these as the language for official communication within the state. And, for state to state communication, states can choose English or Hindi for official communication. For more than 55% of Indian people Hindi is not a native language. For a citizen from a non-hindi speaking state, Hindi is a foreign language just like English; Both Hindi and English are foreign to non-Hindi speaking states. So the concept of national language is meaningless. It is not necessary for a nation to compulsorily have a national language. A nation can still exist by recognizing and accepting multiple native languages. Singapore is one example. It has five official languages.

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Paramesh
Re: There is NO National language for India
by Paramesh on Apr 13, 2009 01:46 AM
For many years wrong knowledge has been passed on to the school children in Hindi-speaking states that Hindi is the national language of India. I am told that even the the text books in the Hindi-speaking states wrongly mention that Hindi is the national language. They are not taught that there is no national language for India. They grow up thinking Hindi can freely be used for communication all over India with out realizing that more than 50% of India have their own native languages (and they are official languages too) and they cannot converse in Hindi. On the other hand, English by virtue of having been here for a long time, is found more effective by people. This fact needs to be acknowledged by all Indian. Even uneducated people do seem to manage with some minimum words of English be it in the North or West or East or South.
Even during our freedom struggle, Indians were able to unite and fight against British overcoming barriers in communications. It was possible only because of English. The freedom fighters from the North and South, for example, could communicate with each other only through English as Hindi was not understood by South and the North did not understand Telegu, Tamil, Kannada, Malayalam, Tulu, Konkani. Even for a Tamil freedom fighter to communicate with a Konkani freedom fighter, the language used was English only. Even though both were from same broad region (i.e. South India) each other's language would not be understood by the other.

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Paramesh
Re: Re: There is NO National language for India
by Paramesh on Apr 13, 2009 01:54 AM
To get freedom from British, their own language English had to be used. If not for English, it is very difficult to imagine how Indians from different parts of India could have united in their freedom struggle. It was only the British that was colonial and NOT English. It is foolish to keep on thinking that English is a colonial language. Let us not go back to Medieval ages by opposing the English language.

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Bihar Badshah
Re: Re: There is NO National language for India
by Bihar Badshah on Apr 13, 2009 02:10 AM
Paramesh Bhai, Totally agree with you, being a hindi speaker I totally undestand and accept that hindi is not a national language, but probably spoken my majority..it can be just 30 or 40% and be the largest ..Langaugae should not be a barrier to divide us..Mulayam, Lalu and Paswaan of North, Buddhadev of East and K'Nidhi, Raj Thackrey and Kerela's Communists are most unsuitable leaders of ours, thrust on us my this so-called democracy..where a scientist, a natinalist or a army chief has same vote as a rapist, a drinker or a street urchin which no value to the society....There is both pros and cons for this democrcy of ours..I some time feel it is flawed! Jai Bihar and Bharatvarsha! and respect to all teh states...I choose to speak for mine, though..

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D S
Re: There is NO National language for India
by D S on Apr 13, 2009 01:34 AM
correct, if we can learn German in Germany or French in France, we can learn whatever is Indian.

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puneeth n
Re: There is NO National language for India
by puneeth n on Apr 13, 2009 01:34 AM
right on paramesh...u seem like a upsc aspirant...ur right..its a myth this country lives under that hindi is our "rashtra basha"...hindi and english are the official languages of the govt of india...thats all!!!

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