Congress wont care about innocent civilians. Be it Sikhs or Tamils. Innocent Sikhs got killed bcoz few Sikhs killed the then PM Indira Gandhi and now the Congress-led Govt declared the killers of innocent Sikhs innocent !! Similarly innocent tamils are getting killed bcoz few tamil killed the then former PM Rajiv and now the congress-led Govt is supporting ,with material and men, the GoSL sponsored GENOCIDE. It is US, the innocent civilians, who need to teach a lesson or two to Congress on the strength of civilians through our votes.
Reasons 1. Sonia ji always prefers a loyalist, and knows that these guys were just carring out high command direction. It was not there fault. 2. Sajjan Kumar, Tytler, Makkan, are people who have amassed huge wealth during hay days and contibute sygnificantly to party funds. You know how Mp's amass wealth! 3. Congress still thinks that goon power is essential for politics, then have Manmohan Singh, instead have Tytler as PM? If ethics or honesty have been any consideration, Congress the party of Mahatma Gandhi should not touch these guys.
If congress won't drop Tytler, I think this will very much proved that CBI is working for congress besides Supreme Court and RBI. We should bring down such useless non democratic government.
Re: Congress should drop Tytler
by deep dar on Apr 09, 2009 09:58 AM
CBI has already admitted in the SC that it had to drop the case against Mulayam due to pressure from Cong.
The following is the list of those alleged to have instigated violence and/or protected alleged criminals.
1. Mr. H.K.L. Bhagat, Minister of state (Information and Broadcasting). On November 5, reported to have intervened to get miscreants released who were held in Shahdara Thana.
2. Babu Ram Sharma, Member, Municipal Corporation (Ward No. 58) reported to be the right-hand man of H. K. L. Bhagat. Reportedly responsible for loot, arson and murder in trance-Yamuna areas-Babarpur, Chajupur Colony, Maujpur, Gonda. Allegedly led people on motor cycle with megaphone.
3. Sajjan Kumar, Cong. (I) M.P. from Mangolpuri. Reported to have paid Rs. 100 and a bottle of liquor to each person involved in the killing.
4. Lalit Makan, Cong. (I) Trade Union Leader and Metropolitan Councillor. Reportedly paid to mob Rs. 100 each plus a bottle of liquor. A white ambassador car reportedly belonging to him came 4 times to the G.T. Road area near Azadpur. Instructions to mobs indulging in arson were given from inside the car.
5. Dharam Das Shastri, Cong. (I) M. P. from Karol Bagh. Reported to becarrying voters list with him at Prakash Nagar for identification of Sikhs. On November 5, according to newspaper reports, he along with other Congress-I leaders tried to pressurize the SHO of Karol Bagh Police Station to release the persons who arrested during the police raids to recover looted property.
Re: PUCL's list of those involved in 84 riots
by democrazy on Apr 08, 2009 06:44 PM
cont'd.. 6. Jagdish Tytler, Cong.(I) M. P. from Sadar Constitutency. On 6th November 5 p.m. he barged into a press conference that the Police Commissioner S. C. Tandon was holding. A journalist reports that he told the Police Commissioner that "by holding my men you are hampering the relief work".
7. Mahendra, Metropolitan Councillor. Reported to have accompanied Dharam Das Shastri with voters lists at Prakash Nagar.
8. Mangat Ram Singal, Member of Municipal Corporation (Ward No. 32) was reportedly with Dharam Das Shastri and Mahendra at Prakash Nagar.
9. Dr. Ashok Kumar, Member of Municipal Corporation, Kalyanpuri. Reportedly held a meeting in Kalyanpuri, following which violence broke out immediately. According to many eye witnesses he led mobs which indulged in loot, murder, arson and rape.
10. Sukhan Lal Sood, Metropolitan Councillor. According to eye witnesses was seen leading mobs, which indulged in loot, murder, arson and rape. He had come with petrol and serial lists and addressess of Sikhs in the locality. The women refugees, recognized him and drove him out.
11. Jagdish Chander Tokas, Member of Municipal Corporation Munirka (Ward No. 14) reportedly led a mob to R.K. Puram Sector IV and V.
Re: Re: PUCL's list of those involved in 84 riots
by democrazy on Apr 08, 2009 06:45 PM
cont'd ... 12. Ishwar Singh, Member, Municipal Corporation, Mangolpuri (Ward No. 37). Allegedly led the mobs that indulged in looting, burning, rape and murder in Mangolpuri area.
13. Balwant Khokhar, Youth Congress-I Leader, Delhi, Identified as one of the persons responsible for instigating looting and arson in Palam Colony area.
14. Faiz Mohammad, Youth Congress-I Leader, Delhi, named by refugees in Shakurpur camp and in Mangolpuri for being a part of the mob indulging in looting, arson and murder.
15. Ratan, Youth Congress-I Leader, Delhi, named as having taken part in violence and looting in Palam Colony area.
16. Satbir Singh, Youth Congress-I. He allegedly brought bus loads of people from Ber Sarai to Sri Guru Harkrishan Public School (Munirka). They burnt school buses and parts of the school building. He was reportedly involved in looting and beating of Sikhs which carried on throughout the night on November 1.
Re: Re: Re: PUCL's list of those involved in 84 riots
by democrazy on Apr 08, 2009 06:49 PM
Apart from the above, there are elements from public and more importantly, the police.
The Ved Marvah committee was stopped from completing its work, and it's hand written notes were not handed over to subsequent commission by the Congress govt.
Let them answer how they will account for the heinous acts of all these people. More importantly, did they not have sanction from Congress high command (Rajiv Gandhi?). Otherwise,no one in Delhi Police or Army could have been inactive in the crucial first few days of the riots.
Re: Where are the secularists?
by democrazy on Apr 08, 2009 06:58 PM
They do a fine balancing act to compare Gujarat riots. But conveniently forget to mention the speedy action Modi took to stop the riots. For easy reference, what he did to stop the riots is listed below:
1. On Feb 27th 2002, he called army within 24 hours of riots erupting. 2. The Godhra rail coach victims bodies were taken to Solan, to avoid emotional flareup in Ahmedabad and elsewhere. 3. Curfew imposed in Godhra on 27th Feb, and on 28th in other major towns. 4. On 27th itself Rapid Action force was deployed in Ahmedabad, Godhra, Baroda. 5. Police fired more than 10000 rounds, killed over 204 rioters. 6. 18000 people arrested, 30000 were taken into preventive custody. Of these 37,600 were Hindus. 7. Of the 945 dead, 257 were Hindus and 688 Muslims.
In spite of his speedy steps, media loves to call Modi a communal.
In 1984, Congress allowed killing of over 3000 sikhs (in Delhi alone). Now tell who is the criminal?
the role of these two in the anti-sikh riots. If it does field them, then it will mean that they are thick skinned and thick headed (as Shekhar Gupta, of Indian Express put it).
It would be interesting to see what action the Congress will take.
By the way, how many of those involved in those murderous attacks on Sikhs are convicted so far? Is there any report on the punishment given to the criminals involved in these heinous acts?
Crooked party as it is, congress ha many Tytlers ,hidden in masks ! They cant think of real good of people! SO BEST METHOD IS 'WIPING OFF" CONGRESS from political scenerio of India! CAN PEOPLE DO IT?
it is clear form these forums that everyone is simply fed up of con-men,con-mean congress and its supporting parties.
what is important is to spread the word around and convince others.
pl join sms campaign and URGENTLY send following sms to all whom you know:
CONGRESS AND SUPPORTING PARTIES ARE DIVIDING THE PPL AND LOOTING AND LYING TO THE COUNTRY. THOO THOO THOO. MAKE SURE NO ONE VOTES FOR ANY OF THEIR CANDIDATES IN ANY ELECTION. SEND THIS SMS TO ALL FRIENDS.
Today various Sikh Organisations have been protesting against the tickets given by the Congress party to Tytler and Sajjan Kumar, who are known to have instigated people against the Sikhs in 1984.
I feel that the action of protest is wrong for the following reasons:
1. Giving Ticket to any person is an internal matter for the particular political party. However, giving votes is the privilege of the people. So, there is no point in protesting against the tickets given to these two persons.
WHAT IS IMPORTANT IS THAT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE HURT BY THEIR ACTIONS VOTE AGAINST THEM AND GIVE THEM A HUMILIATING DEFEAT instead of showing protests at this moment.
2. Tytler, Sajjan etc. are only instruments of the congress party. The Congress party's own failure to control its members is responsible for the tragedies. Therefore, what is very important is to VOTE AGAINST THE PARTY ITSELF reagrdless of whosoever they bring as their candidate.
If today the party cancels the tickets of these two people and gives tickets to others, DOES IT MEAN THAT THE PEOPLE WILL VOTE FOR THEM? No, because the real responsibility is of the PARTY NOT THE TWO PERSONS.
It is better to let anyone stand and then defeat them.
