I am from Orissa and the whole talk of Naveen is fake and vote bank politics.It is true that Orissa developing but the credit should not go alone with BJD , All the areas of development of Orissa happened to the ministries of BJP.so credit shd go with BJP ministers.If BJP can project a young learder of good education and vision,Navven will be defeated badly.I know there no congress in Orissa and it became a 4th Party in Orissa.In name of Biju Pattanaik,BJD fooling Oriya peopels as some Oriya peoples are more emotional and lack of visibility.Navven has done very less for Orissa and he had done biggest loss to Orissa ,by downplaying Oriya language and future will not excuse him.He is culprit for Oriya swabhiman.Regarding Kandhamal,some Christian Dalals,pouring money to BJD gove to spread their relision among Advasi poors and uneducated mass and for violence BJD responsible.One day BJD will be like RJD/SP Party.No democracy nothing in that party.One man army but we shd respect party having good theme and workers.BJD workers are good for nothing.they are only betraying poors in name of Biju Pattnaik and Naveen.We orissa have 95% Hindus and now our culture Jagannatha Hindu Dharma in danger and verge of collapse.In name of secular government,You cant depress Jagannatha Culture.May be u can fool this time to Oriyas,but Oriya peopels will give strong reply to vote buying BJD Party by Money coming from Christian Missionary.BJD going to sell Orissa by coming with CPM/NCP,DALAL Party.
Re: BJD going to sell Orissa to Christian Missionary
by Rohit Mittal on Apr 09, 2009 01:08 PM
yes bjd is going to sell orisa to christan only for vote and its dirty politics and one day the existence of hndutva would abolish
Re: Re: BJD going to sell Orissa to Christian Missionary
by Dheeraj Jain on Apr 09, 2009 01:21 PM
Huge resources , estimated at around 500 crore annually, are being pumped into India by the western powers to convert poor hiindus
The Tehelka Weekly in its February 2008 issue has published a detailed investigative report about this conspiracy. The report has identified the sources from where the funds are sent, the fifth columnists working in this country, the strategy of this war like conspiracy against India.
It is shameful, but true that this international conspiracy against India is succeeding. According to The Tehelka report, around 5000 Indians are getting converted to Christianity every day. The North east of the country is almost Christianised.
An Italian Roman Catholic, Antonia Maino, a.k.a Sonia Gandhi, is running the country by proxy through a weak kneed coterie of spineless hiindus , Kerala and Andhra Pradesh, are ruled by Christian Chief Ministers, a Christian has been given charge of the nation's most sensitive organisation, the RAW, over the heads of several hiindu officers much senior than him.
Anti hiindu missionaries like Gladys Staines, an Australian are being awarded prestigious national awards for social work (read propagating Christianity and converting innocent tribals, the Albanian nun Theresa of Kolkotta is given a Bharat Ratna and is elevated to Sainthood.
The Pope has already proudly declared that the Christian flag was planted in Europe in the first millennium, in the Americas in the Second and the third millineum it is ASIA ..
Re: BJD going to sell Orissa to Christian Missionary
by Secularismsucks on Apr 09, 2009 01:06 PM
Sanjay... I quite agree with your write up. Yes, the split in NDA was engineered on advice of one Mr. Mohapatra who expected the BJP to break up and its Ministers joining BJD. However, 3 sitting MP's from BJD have joined BJP instead. Naveen Patnaik is not taking any sides now as he knows, that BJD is in for severe drubbing at the Hands of Hindus. Sanjay....I agree with you.
People should vote only those who don't divide society in the name of society, religion & whethere being minority, majority or whatever. For 50 yrs. congress was ruling but the economic situation of Muslims didn't change under its rule. So Muslims should ask themselves the following question: if congress was ruling us for 50 yrs. & they supported it for 50 yrs. loyally still their economic situation is far behind other masses of society then what is the reason behind that? The reason is simple congress appease them as minorities & taken undue advantage of their vote. Congress is not at all concerned with the upliftment of Muslims. Same theory holds true for Dalits also. Today we need strong leader which UPA doesn't have. Leaders( academians) like Manmohan, Sonia, Rahul Gandhi only are providing free of cost lip service when it comes to taking action against terrorism. They have the fear of losing Muslim votes if they act against terrorists. But Muslims also got killed in terrorists attack. They too are demanding action against pakistan. But we have psuedo secular govt. ruling which until 4 & half yrs. kept saying that "Stricter rule like POTA is not needed & current rules are enough to tackle terrorism" ( statement by their X-home minister). But everything changed after 26/11. They licked their own saliva back after that & made new law against terrorism so as to show the general public that they are doing (actually on paper only) some sort of action against terrorism.
Re: don't vote for psuedo secularism
by vishesh on Apr 09, 2009 01:05 PM
Sudos want to keep their castes and religion deliberately behind and uneducated. If they think about the development of theri caste / society, they fear loosing them in the next ellections.
Re: vote for bjp
by Kabeera Speaking on Apr 09, 2009 01:35 PM
Bush used Al-Qaida to instil fear in the heart and mind of american citizens and curbed all the civil liberty of its own citizen. BJP is doing the same instilling fear in the indian population by invoking name of taleban. Good ploy to win votes.
Re: vote for bjp
by bishal kay on Apr 09, 2009 01:17 PM
Mr Nagarajan, have you heard of the hindi adage "jab sayya bhaye kotwal toh dar kaheka."? Advani is a paki. You forgot how he was all praise for Jinnah.
Re: Re: vote for bjp
by Rasita on Apr 09, 2009 01:51 PM
May be u should do some reading koo kay ...as is the culture of people like u who pretend to be elitist and pose as intellectuals to only do selective and out of context talking...advani was in pakistan and was asked abt Jinnah.what he said was true as a matter of fact..cos Jinnah had foreseen that India would surely crumble if it was not divided at some point or other...but that fool nehru and gandhi did not understand it.And now we are paying for it.When ur near ones get killed by ur muslim brethren or get raped then ur eyes will automatically open u commie ass....till the sleep u bast ard.
Re: vote for bjp
by Rohit Mittal on Apr 09, 2009 01:11 PM
yes i am BJP worker and BJP is only one party in india can give good rule.and every persin would be happy on BJP rulling.and we will make ram mandir in auodya.
Re: vote for bjp
by Rakesh Dandekar on Apr 09, 2009 01:07 PM
It is not only the question of Pak. Similary they hve to cooperate with other communities in India. Mandir and Masjid is not a only thing. After coming to power they have to bring peace, fearless, price rise, job opportunity and most thing how to make money for BJP politicians likewise Pramod Mahajan. Please keep this point and vote them. I am a BJP man this is my views.
Re: Re: vote for bjp
by RG on Apr 09, 2009 01:19 PM
..this issue of mandir/ masjid or sickulirsm is just by UPA/3rd&4th front to divert the attention like the granma 1nd1ra used to do during election with 'gribi hatao'... bjp is the only party who can take us forward and save from Taliban whi is just 12 km away now..
Re: vote for bjp
by RG on Apr 09, 2009 01:03 PM
..leave pak now its taliban in another 45 days...Cong(Italy) already plnning to sell kasab & afzal to them if they can ensure a victory for them...
Re: WHAT DO MODIJEE MEAN ????????A STRONG LEADER
by bishal kay on Apr 09, 2009 12:58 PM
A strong leader is one who would have utter desregard to the law of the land. He should be able to raze churshes and demolissh moskes. He should be leading from the front preferably carring a can of kerosein.
The flaw, is the 'Core Constituency', ranging from the Matted Hair & Beard Sporting audience of Varun Gandhi's Pilibhit address, to closet Hindutva Types (people who feel Muthalik's acts were wrong, not his intentions or arguments) are at serious odds to the 'Fence Sitters' or should we say 'Pub Sitters'.
The people with a stake in a modern & dynamic India, who DON'T WANT subsidies, reservations etc. are also educated professionals, frequently educated in English MEdium / Convent / Jesuit Missionary schools. People who neither fear the threat of conversion being successful Hindus themselves, nor have the time to fight against conversion.
Above all, these people hate any disruption of peace & law and order, which hinders growth, progress & the 'Pub'suit of Happyness.
The software professionals, doctors, engineers are likely to be more affected by the violence unleashed in Mangalore & Bangalore, rather than the more profound issues of 'Pauperization' of Temples & Haj Subsidies.
MK Karunanidhi's comments appear to be disgusting, but to the Indian outside Tamil Nadu he is as relevant as say, snowfall in the Himalays.
BJP (and the great party, till recently headed or should we say be - headed by GW Bush) need to actually redefine their core constituency and relook at life in the 21st century.
Re: If Wishes Were Horses . . . .
by acharya on Apr 09, 2009 01:00 PM
Even Advani and most bjp leaders learnt to read and write in convent schools. How come they were not "converted" to christianity as most bjp supporters think happens in minority schools?
Re: Re: If Wishes Were Horses . . . .
by Argumentative Indian on Apr 09, 2009 01:09 PM
I studied at a Convent school and freaked out on ALL religious festivals, Holi, Diwali, Eid, Dasshera, Christmas & New Year. We only didn't do Pongal!
In the modern world, conversions to any order, whether Christianity, OR Buddhism OR Naxalism need to first have a fertile ground of disenfranchised humans, who see no hope in the current situation.
In terms of having (mis) ruled India for decades, Congress can be rightly credited for providing such fertile grounds through lethargy, incompetence, corruption etc. etc. creating large masses of people, forced to live in unimaginable conditions of poverty, and in that sense they can be credit for a lot of the conversions that are happening.
The present generation is interested in how global warming would get negated, how tsunamis would be predicted, how population explosion can be averted, how famines be reversed, how clean energy resources would meet our energy requirements. No body wants a mandir or a masjid. That promise would have cut ice 3oo years back. When would our majboot netas learn to look at the future?
Re: Promise us future
by Ponga Pandit on Apr 09, 2009 01:03 PM
and how many of india's billions really give a rat's ar5e about global warming?????...they are more worried about where the next fcukin meal is comin from...and how many of "today's generation" are actually go out in the sun and vote???
Re: Re: Re: Promise us future
by pope fan on Apr 09, 2009 01:14 PM
Unfortunately for you, bishal kay, your ideas speak for themselves. With the Congress, India simply does not have a future, as it will fall apart in the next five years. The Congress bigwigs will wing their way to Europe to enjoy their Swiss accounts. The rest of us will be engaged in civil war as the Taliban and the Christian Taliban (eg. in Orissa) and the Chinese attack India simultaneously. While there is gunfire all around, you can think about global warming.
Re: Re: Promise us future
by Argumentative Indian on Apr 09, 2009 01:11 PM
Your message is strong, I personally don't feel it needs added viagra (expletives).
This election, our wonderful neighbour, through 26/11 has probably provoked many of the 'today's generation' to actually vote.
Re: Re: Re: Promise us future
by Ponga Pandit on Apr 09, 2009 01:14 PM
just a few "enlightened" mumbaikars wont make a difference to the country, my friend! :)
Re: Promise us future
by vishesh on Apr 09, 2009 01:10 PM
but not, how t4lib4n is going to 3ngulf our country. u dont even want to see the des1gns of the sudos. that is the p1ty with yong, 1nexp3rienced br4t8 . u can only f0ll0w sm stu1d actrs
Re: advani's 2 accomplishments
by acharya on Apr 09, 2009 01:01 PM
3. and trying to weasel out of the responsibility of destroying babri masjid to avoid jail time.
Unfortunately too few of the so called fence setter group. I think it only exists in urban areas which are not where the seats are necessarily concentrated. Hope BJP wins though.
Re: Too few of the fence sitters
by Harish Manwani on Apr 09, 2009 01:07 PM
Maybe in all his wisdom Mr. Srinivasan would also explain what is to be done if riots break out in various cities (as had happened the last time the BJP was in power), people belonging to certain communities get attacked, and some of those attack back through retaliatory bomb blasts and mayhem? Corruption or no corruption, is it wise to have a country where large sections of the population (accept them; they are a reality you have to live with and no amount of brandishing trishuls and shouting from podiums will wish them away) are disgruntled? I'm sure such a society will never be able to achieve long-term peace, and the BJP is promising exactly such a scenario. Think twice before mouthing rhetoric on public platforms. We would rather not have India descending into chaos like some sub-Saharan African country.
Re: Too few of the fence sitters
by vishesh on Apr 09, 2009 01:01 PM
Half of India is urban. But now , with communication so strong and most off the villages lined to TV and news, there is almost not much difference in cities , town and villages, as far as awareness is concerned. thanks to the private media (they are full IN GOLD now).
Re: Too few of the fence sitters
by RG on Apr 09, 2009 01:14 PM
..let thse cats of upa,3rd front,4th front,5th....fight for min0rty votes while the bjp can b a winner in that situation....none of them is botherd about hindu hit theough Taliban is knoking just 12 kms away
RS, in his attempts to sound erudite, has only succeeded in sounding stupid.
Some basic marketing fundas on market segmentation and consumer behaviour would help, because all that RS has done is a first level exercise in segmentation. To succeed in today's electoral world, you need to segment down to the fine level of the Obama team - they had identified 12,348 different target groups. Each target group received acarefully calibrated message.
Even a BBM student knows that segmenting a market alone is not enough; you need to understand consumer behaviour before you can come up with a marketing strategy. This of course assumes you have a viable product, which frankly the BJP gives no evidence of, because of all the infighting.
RS, you need to spend time in understanding voter behaviour, i.e. why do voters in India vote in the patterns that they do. hy is caste important? What is the role of local leaders? How important is word of mouth? How much is the influence of family members and seniors? Is the media really effective? What about teachers, professors, writers, etc? What about display of money power; does it work and if so in which areas?
Please spare us the high-level 'triage' sort of nonsense articles. Showcase you intellectual depth, not the depth of your prejudice.
Re: Another atrocious article from the pen of Rajive Srinivasan
by john thomas on Apr 09, 2009 12:56 PM
The Christian missionaries have done deep targeting to the level of each individual village. They are proceeding on a war footing to convert Hindus. The Congress has been totally complicit in this. One could say that the Congress has outsourced its marketing to the missionaries, because every Christian is told by the padres to vote for the Congress. "It is the party of our great white mother Soniaji", they say.
Re: Re: Another atrocious article from the pen of Rajive Srinivas
by acharya on Apr 09, 2009 01:03 PM
The invisible christian missionaries which only the bjp supporters can detect. Children believe in Santa claus, fairies and demons. BJP supporters believe the existence of invisible christian missionaries.
Re: Re: Re: Another atrocious article from the pen of Rajive Srin
by pope fan on Apr 09, 2009 01:16 PM
Yes, the invisible missionaries who have converted 10% of andhra's people in the last five years. The 10% number was given by the christians themselves in demanding reserved seats for themselves.
Can you say "ostrich hiding its head in the sand"?
Re: Re: Another atrocious...
by Rajan Das on Jun 23, 2009 03:07 PM
Even if all the Christians cast their votes for the congress party, it'll not make a ripple as they are a small minority. The victory of congress in the recent election was because of the hindus who constitute 80% of India, and their vote. You don't need to be a rocket scientist to calculate that. Even the majority of the ministers belong to the hindu community. The reason for the mass to vote for congress regardless of religious affliation is that it is the only party that stands for moderation, tolerance, secularism and progress. Of course minorities like Christians and Muslims are happy with the outcome, but they are not the reason for the congress victory.
Re: Re: Another atrocious article from the pen of Rajive Srinivas
by Ashok Rao on Apr 09, 2009 01:08 PM
Ponga Pandit, when you close your eyes and kick, thinking about simple fundas.....
Re: Re: Re: Another atrocious article from the pen of Rajive Srin
by Amit Sinha on Apr 09, 2009 01:50 PM
@ ashok
Your comments are crass
You are "prejudiced" yourself, how can you blame the author for the same..
You are very typical of the current govt they plan and plan and promise and plan and promise some more then the raise a rhetoric.......and then they use fear psychosis (amongst the Minorites..actually Muslims and xitians cause for congress and 3rd front etc only muzzeys and at times (regions rather)qualify as aminority...
I think the author has made a wonderful and job of simplyfying the complexites..of our election scenario
