Everyone knows the exclusiveness taught by Abrahamic religions. In terms of following the ideology , communism is no different from these religions.
All these so called "HIndu fundamentalists" are saying is not to teach exclusiveness and they are branded as extremists. Wow. This is called politically correct but intellectually wrong.
It is very easy to understand, it takes brainwashing methods and manipulation to infuse these ideologies into the mids of people. That is why media indulges in spreading the lies.
If the BJP follows this good advise it just can NEVER go wrong in this or any other election and avoid falling between two stools and becoming another "also ran" like all the other parties who are after a single community as they are perceived to vote en-bloc . It is the fence-sitters who could tilt the balance in the BJP's direction which the BJP should go after without alienating their traditional admirers.ALL BJP leaders should be campaigning all over instead of giving lectures over TV in talk shows. The Party needs more grassroots contact like no other time today instead of power brokers who never face the electorate but pull strings from behind to position weak characters in key positions to their own advantage to the detriment of the Party.
Rajeev Srinivasan’s complaint about the English Language Media’s (ELM) not supporting his extreme views is not new. In fact, the dislike for crude religious fundamentalism is not limited to the ELM. The majority of people are put off by the crudeness, and the violence-prone nature of Rajeev’s pet groups like RSS, VHP and Bajrangdal. There may be some people of moderate intellectual capacity, like Rajeev himself, who are so blinded with their religious identity, that they cannot see beyond their sectarian views.
And, here in this article Rajeev is back to his usual ploy: coflating the religious fundamentalism of his political group (BJP/ VHP/ RSS/BajragDal..et al) with the religious beliefs of the real majority Hindus who do not want to live in such a Tal*ban-like country. They see, and learn from, examples like Pakistan, where majoritarian religious fundamentalism has brought the country to its present sad state.
“The fact is that the media is easily swayed through ...certain sticks. A few discreet prods in sensitive spots will easily bring the media back into line, once the BJP gets into power…all that is required is the application of a little judicious pain to their bottoms..”
It is surprising we have come to a stage where openly Fascist ideas like the above, calling for violence against the dissenters (dictators did it, but they were not brazen about it like this) can be published in reputed media. It is disgusting and scary at the same
Re: Scary fundementalism..
by Cowboy on Apr 12, 2009 08:51 AM
Devadatta, Have you provided any evidence to your charge that Rajeev (RS) has exhibited religious funda? None. Stop your ranting. If RS quote that you posted above is fascist then you are fascist and most people in this world are fascists. That RS quote is just one view of RS. Let me tell you that Media firms and Journalists who write for them are a bunch of mediocres who express their semi-cooked views in news papers across the globe. These jounalists/media have created a Fascists ideal called "India should be Secular country" and all Indians should obey this dictum. Why should India be secular? what is secular?...It is Nehru that started this useless debate because Nehru is a mediocre fellow who felt comfort in following his English masters...The trouble is that the Fascist views of Nehru family are rubbed on all Indians for more than 50 years by Congress party and their mafia friends in the Western Europe and USA. Get real Devadatta.
Re: Scary fundementalism..
by kedem kemorah on Apr 09, 2009 06:26 PM
Political "correctness" usually means hiding the bitter truth from coming out.We have been having this camouflaging activity for a long time and it is because of this that the real issues get swept under the carpet where they keep festering till after sometime the pent up emotions erupt again. All civilised societies believe in being "historically correct" rather than "politically correct" as the very fact that "correctness" needs no qualification like "politically" or any other adjective as truth can and always stands alone. Truth needs no props to hold it up at any time under any circumstances. Let us learn to be a more courageous and mature society and face the truth instead of being hypocritical. It is only through healthy dialogue, debate and open discussions that we can arrive at the root of all problems, not by covering them up under the ineffective doctrine of keeping things covered in order to avoid "hurting the sentiments" of a small section of the people who being used to this pampering will never change and integrate with the rest of India but continue to emotionally blackmail the rest of Indian society to their notional advantage of separateness which will ultimately not benefit them or society at large as falsehood has never provided any lasting solutions.Not integrating with the rest of the world has led to such entities today like Pakistan becoming the world's most dangerous place not only for Indian and humanity but for the Pakistanis themselves.
Re: Scary fundementalism..
by bala sreenivasan on Apr 10, 2009 07:15 PM
Devdatta Bhaumik'da, there is nothing Fascist about being a Hindu or telling a national party how to handle the members of the fourth estate who are actually the fifth column! If you have any glorious notions about our ELP, you must be in fools paradise. Trained in JNU or Jamia Milia Or Patrick Lumumba University, they will sell their mothers and sisters for a bottle of scotch,'Padmashri' Awards and foreign jaunts. They are as corrupt anti-people as the elite sections of this country and please don't hold any brief for them.
Re: Scary fundementalism..
by john thomas on Apr 09, 2009 06:30 PM
If you are unable to see the extreme intellectual dishonesty in the Indian media, you are (a) blind, (b) dumb, (c) both (d) a Communist. You, Bhaumik, must be all of the above.
Re: Scary fundementalism..
by GC Sekhar on Apr 09, 2009 07:41 PM
If Varun Gandhi can be booked under NSA for an alleged anti-muslim stand, the ELM also can be "pained" for taking an anti-Hindu stand.
Re: Scary fundementalism..
by kumar p on Apr 09, 2009 06:34 PM
Guys have got a wrong view of secularism. Secularism doesn't mean "one should oppose once own roots and embrace something else without reason" neither does it mean "hindu bashing at any small petty issue or chance given". Secularism means " being tolerant, oppose meaningless rituals one like taliban does, not the one like Hindus does". Guys lets retirate a few things ". People have been tolernat even on the unfair treatment of Hindus as second-class citizens in almost all spheres of life, the eamples are in the article above. Its high time that Congress, all pseudosecularists and the english media (read it nd*v and others)realise that a show has been thrown by a sikh guy for testing his patience; think whats instore in the mind of majority of nation to be unleashed; if the wrong treatment metted to hindus continues in the name of secularism. Guys there is a limit for everything, don't help become helpless, restless and finally go out of thier minds.
Re: Indians are lucky to be in India
by chilly on Apr 09, 2009 04:13 PM
Kafir is a frog in the well, he is not aware of outside world, so he is praising himself.
Re: Re: Indians are lucky to be in India
by QandA QandA on Apr 09, 2009 05:00 PM
All India Muslim board who claims to own all Muslims in India started mixing Religion with politics... If Muslims would have not looked at Hindus as Hostile there would have been seperation between Religion and Democracy...
But since partition there has been no effort by muslims to look after the welfare without using the religion angle...
Just the Taslims incident in India let us know the Right wing Muslims in India who still dominate the Muslim vote agenda...
- Do not get swayed by any fatwa by local masjid, imam and think about the country. - Do not support any taliban, terrorists, pakistani/ saudi sponsored mullas, maulvis - Give the education to your girl child and make them contribute in the growth of the nation. - Contribute in the population control and put a cap of 1 or max 2 kids. - pakistan is playing in the hands of china, who is using pakistan to engage India in dealing with tackling terrorism, so that India could not progress and china goes miles ahead India in the development, which is already started happening. pakistan is a stupid country which does not have vision of its growth and a failed state. Lets not get ourself used by pakistan in fulfilling china agenda. -strong India is good for every one, not a terrorised India.
Re: Appeal
by chilly on Apr 09, 2009 03:55 PM
Kafir before giving advise to others just see yourself how good and how clean you are. Just forget the Ramp temple, and Re-build the Babri Masjid then all the things will come to an end.
Re: Re: Appeal
by Kafir Sahab on Apr 09, 2009 04:02 PM
At the time of Aurangzeb, thousands of temple were demolished and masjids were made from the debris of them by putting the idols of the God/Goddess in the stairs of the masjids. Can you re-build all those temples?
Re: Re: Re: Appeal
by chilly on Apr 09, 2009 04:08 PM
Kafir are u a dumb ? I am talking about Independent India, India after 1947 and its justice system. As per the Indian constitution a legal building or place or thing cannot destroy. You destroyed a Mosque , you should re-build this as per the law of the land. There was not such a law the the time of Mugals
Re: Re: Re: Re: Appeal
by Kafir Sahab on Apr 09, 2009 04:15 PM
What is the use of a masjid at all. A temple or church is still needed to put the idol but a mosque is an emptly place. Even in saudi arabia and in pakistan, many masjids are demolished for making roads etc..
Also, even the holiest place of mus1ims Kaaba was a temple..,
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Appeal
by chilly on Apr 09, 2009 04:24 PM
Masjid a place to pray only, not necessary to put anything in the Masjid. No one have the right to demolish illegally or by force.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Appeal
by bala sreenivasan on Apr 10, 2009 07:21 PM
Chilly, what 'justice system' you are talking about? It is the Koran and not the Constitution for most Muslims as repeatedly demonstrated by cases like Shahbanu, Taslima and Salman Rushdie. Go preach it from the ramparts of Jumma Masjid, let's see
Re: Re: Appeal
by QandA QandA on Apr 09, 2009 04:55 PM
There is another thought...
There is Rome for Christains, There is Mecca for Muslims (Where Hindus are not allowed) But there is nothing for Hindus.. An old Masjid(that was never used for worship) could have been peacefully RELOCATED to another location and Hindu sentiments in HINDU India could have been respected without any confrontation...
BJP' agenda for Ram temple is just a lie they can't do that and most Hindus above 85% Hindus don't want Ram Temple, because they said temple will not provode them Roti, they need the Roti first. Second thing they don't want the temple because only upper cast Brahmins will get access to this temple, lower cast, backwards , Dalits, chamars, all these 85% of Hindus will not get entry to Ram temple even if they built. So what benefit they will get from this temple and why they will vote to that? BJP just come out of your dream lies & false promises
Re: Bheja khao Party = BJP
by kapil agrawal on Apr 09, 2009 06:55 PM
Yes and a mosque will help these terrorits to hide their weapons and in the talibanisation of the country.
Re: Re: horrible
by bjp kachamcha on Apr 09, 2009 03:52 PM
for chamchas names doesnt matter. i m inviting all tha chamchas of bjp come together nd pull bjp in opposition again
Re: Re: Re: horrible
by Karthikeyan Ramakrishna on Apr 09, 2009 03:58 PM
Bloody Congress ka chamcha wait and see, even congress cant sit in opposition. BJP will win miles ahead. So stop dreaming.
As we all know that when Babar came to India, mus1ims were a few tens of thousands. By force conversion and barbarism they increased mus1im population in India. mahmud gazhnavi, sikander Lodhi, alauddin khilzi, aurangzeb etc did so much barbarism on hindus and forced conversion. Now India is an independent country, not under the barbaric mughal rule, so the time has come to avenge the attrocities done on your ancestors. Ki1l all the mullas / maulvis in the local area.., bring down the masjids which are the symbol of mughal barbarisms.. and get rid of the doctrine which was forced upon your ancestors..
Re: O muslims, the time has come to take revenge for your ancesto
by bjp kachamcha on Apr 09, 2009 03:33 PM
this kifir's ancestors were also being kiked on ass by babar .he still has some marks on his ass.hahaha
Re: Re: O muslims, the time has come to take revenge for your anc
by Karthikeyan Ramakrishna on Apr 09, 2009 04:22 PM
You realy show what you are from your language.. I feel pitty and forgive you
Re: O muslims, the time has come to take revenge for your ancesto
by chilly on Apr 09, 2009 03:27 PM
Kafir you are a brain damaged person should be sent immediately to mental hospital , condition is very bad.
Re: Re: O muslims, the time has come to take revenge for your anc
by Ponga Pandit on Apr 09, 2009 04:23 PM
seems u got some chilli powder up ur "unmentionable"..!! LOL
