...the trouble is, his approach results in two kinds of finishes:
--1--He drags the score at a snail's pace until the last over, and then he finishes off with a sixer.
--2--He drags the score at a snail's pace, doesn't attempt to control the asking rate with boundaries or with two's and three's, and the resulting pressure on the rest of the Indian batting results in a total collapse of the Indian innings (that's also a way of "finishing" things for India!)
Clearly, there's no need for that kind of risk.
If MSD is in the team, he must bat ONLY AT No. 10 or No. 11. That will give him a great chance to be a finisher without jeopardizing the chase. In any case, of late, he isn't even trying to retain the strike while batting with lower-order batsmen.
I admire and respect his fantastic past, and still valuable present skills, but he must bat only at 10 or 11.
Re: I agree that MSD is an excellent finisher, but....
by Chaitanya on Jan 16, 2019 05:25 AM
AFTERTHOUGHT--
Perhaps I was being too harsh about MSD's performance TODAY. Perhaps today was a difficult one due to the severe heat, which seems to have exhausted MSD (he kept wickets in that heat).
Still, why not make him bat lower down? Perhaps at his age, there's only so much that his body can take.
Re: Re: I agree that MSD is an excellent finisher, but....
by Gladyschellam on Jan 16, 2019 10:12 AM
Whoever say whatever it be - still Dhoni's striking rate in second innings is higher than the fastest Kohli (Both are above 99 plus).
The right position for Dhoni is between 37-40 overs in One-day matches which ever the order be. In this match he got into 30th over and hence he was bit slow allowing Kohli to perform.
In T20 matches it should be between 14-15 overs. Still he seems to be the best in running between wickets.
Reg Kartik: He is very good if he enters @45-46th overs as he has also proved to be a good finisher.
Re: Re: I agree that MSD is an excellent finisher, but....
by P S SHAH on Jan 19, 2019 11:00 AM
Chautanya, in Cricket, Wicket keeping is the most active job and the keeper is the most active player on the field all the time. Have you seen his running between the wicket ? Better use your brain instead of underestimating the strength of one of the successful player of Indian cricket. By the way have you ever played any competitive cricket ?
Re: Re: I agree that MSD is an excellent finisher, but....
by P S SHAH on Jan 19, 2019 11:00 AM
Chautanya, in Cricket, Wicket keeping is the most active job and the keeper is the most active player on the field all the time. Have you seen his running between the wicket ? Better use your brain instead of underestimating the strength of one of the successful player of Indian cricket. By the way have you ever played any competitive cricket ?
Re: I agree that MSD is an excellent finisher, but....
by P S SHAH on Jan 19, 2019 10:44 AM
Dhoni is a specialist Batsman and only people like you who dont know anything about Cricket can only suggest him to play at No. 10 or 11. The players who are on batting on the ground are best judge to decide how they have to play . They play according to the format of the game and one can not expect them to score rune in 20 overs even when the match is for 50 overs. The people like you will blame them if they throw their wickets while trying to score more runs and will also complaint when they score slowly. It is for them to plan out their innings . Ultimately, the win is more important than how they achieved their target.
Re: I agree that MSD is an excellent finisher, but....
by P S SHAH on Jan 19, 2019 10:55 AM
Dhoni is a specialist Batsman and only people like you who dont know anything about Cricket can only suggest him to play at No. 10 or 11. The players who are on batting on the ground are best judge to decide how they have to play . They play according to the format of the game and one can not expect them to score rune in 20 overs even when the match is for 50 overs. The people like you will blame them if they throw their wickets while trying to score more runs and will also complaint when they score slowly. It is for them to plan out their innings . Ultimately, the win is more important than how they achieved their target.
MS is still a best finisher and his experience is surely going to help us winning some big matches in the world cup. On the other hand, Pant needs to be more matured as he might perish in an attempt to score fast on a difficult pitch in the World Cup. Just can't risk it in the world cup. Dinesh Karthik is another Gem we just cannot afford to drop in the world cup.
Re: Best Finisher
by Jayaprakash on Jan 15, 2019 06:46 PM
DK only finished this match in favour of India. Without his quick fire 25 with a strike rate of 178, India might have lost this match as well.
Re: Best Finisher
by mandar on Jan 15, 2019 06:50 PM
Looks like situation fixing by team india for upliftment of MSD till world cup so that he gets confirm seat in playing 11. No doubt about his experience. But his batting is no more effective. Let he be included as 12th man and play as WK during india fielding as a replacement for some one . May be good idea
Re: Dhoni's Inclusion
by Chaitanya on Jan 15, 2019 06:09 PM
On the contrary, it is now even clearer that MSD is not good for the team.
Once again, he indulged in bizarrely slow scoring, which always puts tremendous pressure on the rest of the team, and can lead to loss of wickets and the match itself.
If at all MSD is in the team, he must be sent in at No. 10, because, in any case. So that he will do minimum damage to the rest of the team.
Re: Re: Dhoni's Inclusion
by Jayaprakash on Jan 15, 2019 07:05 PM
Sachin, Rahul, Laxman, Shewag, Kapil Dev .....all these greats retired due to age factor and Indian test cricket is on top and may be doing better than their times. It is mainly due to a better pace bowling attack team India is doing better than before. Earlier we had top batsmen, but never had a good pace bowling attack as of now.
Re: Dhoni's Inclusion
by Chaitanya on Jan 16, 2019 05:27 AM
AFTERTHOUGHT--
Perhaps I was being too harsh about MSD's performance TODAY. Perhaps today was a difficult one due to the severe heat, which seems to have exhausted MSD (he kept wickets in that heat).
Still, why not make him bat lower down? Perhaps at his age, there's only so much that his body can take.
