Its the media making our greats look small. A subject like comparing the genius of Gavaskar with that of Kohli is not so ugly but in the process making one look smaller than the other as well attacking one for not acting as lover of the game and country is ridiculous. One may have idea about SG not playing for the team but for himself, yet it has to understood that he is the man stood against the fearsome pace from the likes of LIli, Thompson, Roberts , Griffith and Hall and alike and mind that without helmet. I bet you it was just having your breath in your pockets. we all know what happened to Mr. Contarctor. SG is the man who could instill courage in the minds of Indian cricketers that even centuries can be made against these non playable community. It is no less a job that our beloved Kohli is doing today. You youngsters don't know (probably) what amazing mind set SG had at that point of time. We all used to know that once SG crossed his 30 it will certainly going to be a century and it used to be. The kind of confidence he could even propagate to the indian people I have never seen in any of the cricketers , before or after. No, not even Sachin and or Rahul. One gave us understanding and confidence what we can do if we want. Sachin proved yes we can. Kohli bettering them all. This is the process of Evolution ; for the Indian cricket and cricketers. all are to be saluted for their contributions and certainly not making one smaller than the other.
Kohli once again proved he is better than Sachin /Gavaskar or any other indian cricketer. I still remember Sachin in such situation was able to score 40-45 and used to get out.In very few matches he was able to take the team to a win situation especially with difficult teams. Gavaskar I remember was good only at cricketing shots and ofcourse commentary:)
I remember when we humiliated AUS Three - Nil WHITE WASH on their own pitches there were discussion among media & some cricket fans that we defeated their B or C team .
Now , Yesterday's was their A team ?? Now what happened ??
Now they should play with their A plus team ?? Then also they will lose .
As I have been repeatedly saying :
AUS , over all these years have been winning only because some unfair means like SLEDGING , MIND GAMES OR WRONG DECISION BY UMPIRES and not on their merits . They thought they are invincible .
Now they have been shown their right place . OUT OF WC IN FIRST ROUND ITSELF .
Now they will fear Team India whenever they will face them in future .
NZ luckily defeated Team India at Nagpur that time itself I said Team India is well known to bounce back strongly specially when they are pushed into back foot .
And , if anyone is thinking that had Kohli got out early yesterday India would have lost then they are biggest fools because if not Kohli , someone like Yuvraj / MSD / Jadeja / Pandya would have won for Team India . Such a strong batting line up . May be Dhawan / Rohit / Raina failed in few games but surely they will come back strongly . Just wait .
Re: POOR AUSTRALIA
by Hindustani on Mar 28, 2016 03:48 PM
Some of your statements such as :-
1)"AUS , over all these years have been winning only because some unfair means"
2) Now they will fear Team India whenever they will face them in future
3) NZ luckily defeated Team India at Nagpur
4) If not Kohli , someone like Yuvraj / MSD / Jadeja / Pandya would have won for Team India. Such a strong batting line up.
Your all above statements are outrageous & in a way amusing.
For anyone with some basic cricketing knowledge & logic, your statements sounds funny & childish.
But anyway, I can understand that you are Indian Cricket Enthusiast & one of those who can never find any weakness in Indian batting, bowling or anything.
Anyway, yesterday's match was Kohli's special one man show against Australia & congrats team India for winning.
When 4 of your top 6 batsman's are complete non-performers with the bat, it takes some special & one-of-a-kind inning to win the knock-out match like that.
The real question is, are we making Indian batting = Kohli, just as during the 90's Indian batting = Tendulkar ?
Till how long are we going to impose the burden on that great man Kohli's shoulders to perform each & every occasion, at the cost of others incompetence & failures ?
Re: Re: POOR AUSTRALIA
by Pukuta Mestri on Mar 28, 2016 04:33 PM
Most of us who writes comments here are having basic cricketing knowledge. From your comments looks like you are well qualified to comment on cricket. Why don't you state what is wrong with 4 points lady listed? It is her perspective - me and you may not agree with it but don't understand why it is outrageous & amusing. I am eager to understand (with my limited cricket playing experience) your point of view.
Re: Re: Re: POOR AUSTRALIA
by Hindustani on Mar 28, 2016 05:36 PM
OK I will elaborate each point in detail for your information :-
1) You can not win 4 world cups, so many Ashes series, many bilateral or triangular series, remain on top consistently in tests, ODI's rankings with ONLY BECAUSE OF SOME UNFAIR MEANS. You have to have something in YOU to achieve that. It's not IPL where N. Srinivasan or Raj Kundra or Ambani or SRK can win you titles at your will.....
2) Why they will fear team India ? They have comprehensively beaten us in ODI world cups except one exception in 2011. They have beaten us 4-1 in ODI's some months ago. I agree that in recent times our records in T-20 against them is good but only in T-20's, In tests & ODI's we are still no match with them.
So why will they fear us?
3) Everyone who watched that Ind vs Nz game played at Nagpur could tell that we had no answer to the NZ spinners. Our batsmen completely overwhelmed & mesmerized by their novice spinners as if they were playing on spinning track for the first time in their life.... How can we say that NZ were lucky?
4)If not Kohli , someone like Yuvraj / MSD / Jadeja / Pandya would have won for Team India. Such a strong batting line up.
We all have watched our batting order's pathetic display during this world cup barring the exception of Virat Kohli.
Though Yuvraj accompanied Kohli, never for once was he looked like getting India closed to the target. He was extremely cautious & slow.
We all know what are Jadeja's credentials with the bat. One has
Re: Re: Re: Re: POOR AUSTRALIA
by Hindustani on Mar 28, 2016 05:40 PM
to stretch his memory to remember when was the last time he had contributed anything with the bat. Hardik Pandya, though is a pinch hitter, hardly ever contributed while chasing the target & never had faced bowling attack like Australia before, so he is undependable. And as far as Dhoni is concerned, he had not single handedly won the match for us after that 2011 ODI world cup final. He always play second fiddle to some others. Or finish the game glamorously with last bowl six or four when there has been a good foundation laid at the top for him. In yesterday's game he supported Kohli well but the single most contributor with knockout punch was Kohli. So, to call our middle order which has consistently failed to deliver on even Indian tracks, as strong is not an amusing thing, then what is it ?
Re: Re: Re: Re: POOR AUSTRALIA
by Pukuta Mestri on Mar 28, 2016 07:27 PM
#1 Their domination was when they had star players and there is hardly any now in the current squad. Hence argument of they won so many earlier doesn't hold water.
#2; agree not because points listed but there is none in modern cricket fears for others. It has become fearless game irrespective whether you play against Aussies or Afghan.
#3 Don't really agree with this view. Give me recent example where India were beaten in spin pitches by NZ. But to go with your view, as such T20 game itself is a flip flop in no time like last match. Until over 17 it was Aussies and then in 2 overs things changed.
#4 again going with T20 format and my view on #3,we have the good batting side no matter whether these players played well or not in the recent past. Point here is, cricket can't be won seldom with one person and it is team game.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: POOR AUSTRALIA
by Hindustani on Mar 28, 2016 10:31 PM
#1 She was not talking about current squad, read carefully what she said.. "OVER ALL THESE YEARS". It's not a point whether they were having star players or not...The truth is they were virtually unbeatable all these years. We were also having STAR players, then why we were not as successful as them ?
And for your knowledge, Australia are still NO.1 team in TESTS & ODI's ICC rankings, they don't play T-20 matches in their schedule that's why they are not No.1 in T-20. So, your argument about they don't have STAR players doesn't hold any significance as without them are no.1 in 2 main formats of cricket.
#3 That's what my point is. India until recently ( till Ganguly, SRT & Dravid ) were considered as best batsmen of spin bowling. But the way they got out to novice spinners was absolutely pathetic to see.
#4 After watching Pakistan's game & yesterday's game against Australia, one has to rethink whether it is really a team game or ONE MAN SHOW......
Re: Re: Re: like him
by kowshika adisheshan on Mar 28, 2016 02:10 PM
When the win predictor announced that India has 75 % chances, he laughed and said, Predictor is an India, It is 99 % Chance to Australia and 1 % to India.
Re: Re: Re: like him
by Hindustani on Mar 28, 2016 04:12 PM
You need to upgrade your poor cricketing knowledge before blabbering.....
Kohli never plays any innovative shots during his innings & that's the secret of his batting. All his shots are proper text-book cricketing shots like drives, cuts, glances, pulls etc.
We all know what happened to players who play innovative shots in this world cup like Maxwell, Dilshan, Munro etc.
And before spitting your venom against Gavaskar, check Indian teams record outside India in the 70's & 80's & check which btsman was influential in our wins & draws.
Gavaskar was the first batsman to show the courage to stand like the wall & score centuries at will against the arguably greatest fast bowling attack of all time of West Indies on the fastest & bounciest pitches of all time.
No wonder ,all time greats like Richards, Imran Khan, Sobbers etc. rate Gavaskar as the finest batsman to have ever played the game for nothing.....
So, if you don't know anything then keep quiet than to show your illiteracy & ignorant foolishness.
Re: Re: Re: like him
by Hindustani on Mar 28, 2016 04:12 PM
You need to upgrade your poor cricketing knowledge before blabbering.....
Kohli never plays any innovative shots during his innings & that's the secret of his batting. All his shots are proper text-book cricketing shots like drives, cuts, glances, pulls etc.
We all know what happened to players who play innovative shots in this world cup like Maxwell, Dilshan, Munro etc.
And before spitting your venom against Gavaskar, check Indian teams record outside India in the 70's & 80's & check which btsman was influential in our wins & draws.
Gavaskar was the first batsman to show the courage to stand like the wall & score centuries at will against the arguably greatest fast bowling attack of all time of West Indies on the fastest & bounciest pitches of all time.
No wonder ,all time greats like Richards, Imran Khan, Sobbers etc. rate Gavaskar as the finest batsman to have ever played the game for nothing.....
So, if you don't know anything then keep quiet than to show your illiteracy & ignorant foolishness.
Check this statement by Gavaskar : "Look at the selflessness of the man. He was quite happy to allow the strike to his skipper "
Not many people including Kohli and MSD care for hitting winning runs. It is Gavaskar whose mindset is set in these matters and his analysis is bogged down by such narrow mindedness.
Re: Gavaskar mentality
by Kaale Chickne on Mar 28, 2016 02:02 PM
Remember Gavaskar's 60 over 36 runs to ensure Indian Teams defeat in world cup. He said that since the team was not going to win he was having some battting practice.
