Re: Dhoni's test captaincy record
by Sunil Vaidya on Jul 07, 2015 06:58 AM
yes i suppose so....having the best captaincy record in tests....being the most successful indian captain in tests is obnoxious....i suppose by that logic lloyd waugh imran fleming et al were obnoxious captains....hehehee....again guru displaying his cricket ignorance...but that is nothing new of course...
Re: Re: Dhoni's test captaincy record
by Sunil Vaidya on Jul 07, 2015 06:58 AM
wonder what kick guru gets in displaying his cricket illiteracy..hehehee...:)
Re: Re: Dhoni's test captaincy record
by sonu on Jul 07, 2015 09:31 AM
15 test matches lost shamelessly OVERSEAS is indeed a great captaincy record which no captain of a leading team in cricket history could do... hahahaah
Re: Re: Re: Dhoni's test captaincy record
by Sunil Vaidya on Jul 07, 2015 05:42 PM
ganguly was the proud holder of that record before dhoni...ganguly lost 10 matches lost overseas....if ganguly had played as many matches against aus eng and sa as dhoni did ganguly would have also lost many more matches and if dhoni had got to play as many tests against bd and zim his away record too would have looked good...
Re: Re: Re: Re: Dhoni's test captaincy record
by Sunil Vaidya on Jul 07, 2015 05:52 PM
of the 28 tests that ganguly captained away he played 7 tests against bd and zim (a staggering 25%) out of which he won 6 and lost 1 (against zim in zim) and played only 10 tests out of those 28 against eng sa aus (only about 32 %)
dhoni on the other hand of the 30 away tests that he captained played against bd and zim in only 1 test! while he played as many as 19 tests (about 63 %!) out of those 30 against sa eng and aus...
if like dhoni ganguly had to captain in 30 tests out of which only 1 test would be against bd and zim and 19 against sa eng and aus his away record also would look terrible...and if dhoni like ganguly had to captain 28 tests out which only 10 would be against sa eng and aus and as many as 7 against bd and zim his away record would have looked fantastic....
all ganguly;s away aura has been built upon those 6 wins against bd and zim...
Re: Re: Re: Dhoni's test captaincy record
by Sunil Vaidya on Jul 07, 2015 05:54 PM
of the 28 tests that ganguly captained away he played 7 tests against bd and zim (a staggering 25%) out of which he won 6 and lost 1 (against zim in zim) and played only 10 tests out of those 28 against eng sa aus (only about 32 %)
dhoni on the other hand of the 30 away tests that he captained played against bd and zim in only 1 test! while he played as many as 19 tests (about 63 %!) out of those 30 against sa eng and aus...
if like dhoni ganguly had to captain in 30 tests out of which only 1 test would be against bd and zim and 19 against sa eng and aus his away record also would look terrible...and if dhoni like ganguly had to captain 28 tests out which only 10 would be against sa eng and aus and as many as 7 against bd and zim his away record would have looked fantastic....
all ganguly;s away aura has been built upon those 6 wins against bd and zim...
Re: Re: Can Sunil Vaidya Explain
by sonu on Jul 07, 2015 09:29 AM
yeah dh0ni topscored but didnt try f0r a win n played comfortably wid an average strikerate... bcz he hd to concentrate on hiz manipulativeaverage....hahaha
Re: Re: Re: Can Sunil Vaidya Explain
by Sunil Vaidya on Jul 07, 2015 05:58 PM
you dont go bang bang from start...because wickets had fallen he had to play carefully at the beginning...and you dont try to win matches in 30 overs you play all 50 overs especially so when the target is so big...and if he had support from other end he would have tried to win...but you alone cannot chase 300 plus target ....especially with wickets falling at other end...if wickets had not fallen at the other end he would have tried to go as near the target and win as possible...
whatever anybody might say but in the format which is supposed to be the best that is test cricket...only 1 wicket keeper batsman in history of cricket has hit 200 runs in one day...and that man has retired from test cricket recently...MSD...
Re: hi
by sonu on Jul 04, 2015 10:22 PM
n he cudnt score even a single century outside asia in his entire career and in any format. even bowlers made more runs than him outside asia..no wonder dhoni average is 17,22,31,34 on fast n bouncy pitches of aus, eng, sa, wi...hahahaha
Re: hi
by Guru RamRahimDsuza on Jul 06, 2015 01:52 PM
Dhoniji is the only wicket keeper from a test playing nation who has never scored a century outside subcontinent after playing cricket for more than 10 yrs. Amazing achievement !!!
If Dhoni follows his advice he would score 36 runs in 60 overs but just remain not out and Gavaskar would validate and defend his innings...lolz.
In my view, thought it may seem an exaggeration, he can learn something from Dhoni instead of suggesting what Dhoni should do.
However, we all know Gavaskar's extraordinary political abilities...Sandeep Patil being the head of selection committee, Shastri being the team director, we all know where Indian cricket is heading towards, don't we?
Re: Ha ha ha look who is talking...
by DrYaako TikaNovva on Jul 03, 2015 05:11 AM
Wow, anotherchewtea spotted in the form of Tanmay, what do you want Gavaskar to learn from Dhoni?
Re: Ha ha ha look who is talking...
by Vineet Saxena on Jul 04, 2015 12:35 PM
Well said and you are correct Tanmay. This is the fact. These off the field yesteryear players should be weighted down in Teams affair since political ability is well known fact but unfortunately it is other way round and Indian cricket at bottom low. Discouraging Dhoni is big loss to Indian cricket.
Re: Re: Ha ha ha look who is talking...
by DrYaako TikaNovva on Jul 04, 2015 02:43 PM
Vineet, such dogmatic thoughts as yours have spoiled Indian cricket from a 2-3 decades.
Re: Re: Re: Ha ha ha look who is talking...
by Sunil Vaidya on Jul 04, 2015 09:14 PM
yes...spoiled to such an extent that things happened that had never happened before in the history of indian cricket...like no 1 in all 3 formats...
Re: Re: Re: Re: Ha ha ha look who is talking...
by DrYaako TikaNovva on Jul 06, 2015 05:54 AM
Even the whitewashes happened and not to forget that there were some series in which India did not even win a single match. And by the way, I did not know Dhoni played from 2-3 decades.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Ha ha ha look who is talking...
by Sunil Vaidya on Jul 07, 2015 07:20 AM
hehehe..whitewashes are not new...they have happened before too...in fact the older generation players had earned india the name of being tigers at home and lambs abroad...
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Ha ha ha look who is talking...
by Sunil Vaidya on Jul 07, 2015 07:22 AM
but he played in some part of the last 2-3 decades did he not? and in the last 2 -3 decades we had captains like dada dravid kumble...did we not? but i think you do not mean them while lambasting indian cricket team...am i correct...your target is somebody else who retired recently from test ...is it not? or do you want to criticize dada kumble dravid? heheheee:)
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Ha ha ha look who is talking...
by DrYaako TikaNovva on Jul 07, 2015 08:09 AM
You can criticizeanyone you dont like. I aint a Dhoni fan to beg you to stop :)
Re: Re: Re: Ha ha ha look who is talking...
by Vineet Saxena on Jul 05, 2015 09:27 PM
Why do you feel my thought "Dogmatic". Dhoni is match winning player and his records speaks. What Gavaskar were in limited over version cricket "36 runs in 60 overs". More famous for dressing room politics. Gavaskar should have no face to speak about Dhoni or advice Dhoni. Better ask him to continue do commentary because it is easy to comment then perform.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Ha ha ha look who is talking...
by DrYaako TikaNovva on Jul 06, 2015 06:00 AM
Dhoni does not do politics? L0L. No better reason to prove your dogmatism. He is the biggest politician Indian team has ever seen. Search for the slowest innings in T20, Dhoni stamps his authority in 4 out of 5 innings. Whenever he has remained not out and supposedly finished matches single handedly check the number of runs and strike rate of other batsmen and compare it with Dhoni. No 50s in T20 but quite a few 50s for CSK. The list is endless.