Re: Re: Dhoni..
by Against Pseudos on Feb 17, 2014 10:20 PM
ROTFLMAO.... He has lost even more tests abroad than Pataudi. Lost 10 of the last 11 tests abroad. I think if he carries on this way (losing to #8 team etc), he will reach 30 defeats easily.
Re: Re: Re: Dhoni..
by sunil vaidya on Feb 17, 2014 10:44 PM
ROTFLMAO....you cannot even count upto 5...you talk any nonsense ...but that does not become truth...you can ramble in your dream whatever you want...who cares what you say...
Re: Worst Dropped Catch
by CC on Feb 17, 2014 06:21 PM
jack russel dropped lara and he went to make 400.................thats the worrest drop catch ever
Dhoni should be given a boot after what has happened in this match.Any captain who allows such comic mistakes that he made in field placing & negative bowling tactics calls for his head.This learning business from low ranked teams needs to be scrapped right away & really irritating.
Re: The captain escapist
by aaa on Feb 17, 2014 09:13 PM
what Dhoni can do if bowlers cannot take even NZ wickets. We desparately need bowlers and I blame board for not doing enough..He is the best we have got..
Re: Re: The captain escapist
by Against Pseudos on Feb 17, 2014 10:25 PM
Well said. If we had good bowlers even Devendra Tyagi would have been a good captain.
Re: Re: Re: The captain escapist
by aaa on Feb 17, 2014 11:08 PM
Of the current crop Dhoni is the best.. with the number of cups that we won is the proof.. What it proves it that if we have decent players he will win us all.. Of all the captains that we have so far he is the best..With same sub standard players he won us all the cups that is the proof of his captainship.. I cannot imagine people say Saurav when we lost so many finals under him..
Even Sourav Ganguly did not have world class Fast bowlers in his side. But he with his aggression and mastermind made India a real good test team. Even kumble was a very good test captain. But sorry to say that Dhoni is a worthless TEST captain. Probably the worst after Azhar...
Re: Difference in Class between Dhoni and Ganguly
by pradeep agarwal on Feb 17, 2014 06:06 PM
Why feel sorry for what is now an established fact.He is rubbish when it comes to test format to say the least
Re: Re: Difference in Class between Dhoni and Ganguly
by aaa on Feb 17, 2014 09:16 PM
Saurav is retired.. suggest somebody who can handle in the present crop..
Dear All, We are clearly missing the point here. I agree with the fact that one catch was dropped and a play went on to make 200 and turned the match around. The point here is the Indian bowling over the last five years has become absolutely hopeless and sadly talentless. After ZK ( i sadly say he is nearing the end of his career), there has just been no bowler of substance in the Indian team. IS is not a bowler. Period. All our other bowlers are total rookies and nowhere near world class bowlers like DS and MJ. I have been studying the Indian bowling since many years and have observed that they just bowl straight, plain straight! That's all they can do! No variety, no line, no movement! Except for BK no one in the Indian team gets any kinda movement! We should groom more bowlers to be genuinely fast bowlers? Can't we find bowlers in this vast country who can consistently bowl at 140 kmph? Someone like MJ?
Re: Hopeless Indian bowling!
by Abhishek Kulkarni on Feb 17, 2014 05:25 PM
Guys look at the way the Aussies crushed the SAcans. SA are an equally talented team but look at the way they just crushed them! I am totally impressed by the aggressiveness displayed by the ruthless Australians! An entire overhaul of or bowling department is needed! Otherwise with talentless performances like these, cricket in India will become like cricket in WI. Lesser and lesser people will become bowlers - everyone will wanna be a batsman - good for other sports though - especially hockey!
Re: Re: Hopeless Indian bowling!
by KRISHNA CHAITANYA on Feb 17, 2014 05:36 PM
Ishant runs to bowl with his lehrate hue baal...shami is still a lad and a lot to learn..ZK..why did he come back...did he come back for doing this and which is nothing?? where is BB...Umesh Yadav...Dhoni..the root cause for everything is Dhoni..
Re: Hopeless Indian bowling!
by vandiyathevan on Feb 17, 2014 05:40 PM
You can get all the kind of bowlers you want but then you want a non scheming captain! Pray tell me what was the great cricketing sense in going into a test with just four bowlers, especially when zak is prone to injuries. What was achieved by taking Rohit in place of a bowler? Lastly look at Aussies whenever they won the toss, irrespective of the pitch, they always bat first and use the fourth and fifth day pitch to their advantage. You have a captain, who has his own rationale defying logic and a BCCI which is in a hurry to parade the players all round the world without sufficient practice matches and result is for every one to see!
Re: Hopeless Indian bowling!
by Hindustan dushman on Feb 17, 2014 05:58 PM
Even Sourav Ganguly did not have world class Fast bowlers in his side. But he with his aggression and mastermind made India a real good test team. Even kumble was a very good test captain. But sorry to say that Dhoni is a worthless TEST captain. Probably the worst after Azhar...
Previously also Dhoni had dropped many catches and it's well known his 'keeping is worst and one of the reasons India was defeated in abroad so rigorously!
Re: Re: MSD
by Shikari Shambu on Feb 17, 2014 05:35 PM
Not much, only that Virat/Ishant/whoever drops catches are held accountable but not Dhoni (by his fantards)
Brightly positive, resurrection of winner's attitude in their mind & action to follow would lead to sustain the height achieved / as from the view regaining interest in test cricket prospect , the nz captain should declare as soon as possible or else if he fails in overcoming highest total from their former players & throw up a challenge for an enterprising competitiveness ,having a regressive attitude than aggressive now inspite of being in an advantageous position will lead to doom against other upcoming top teams @ Alok Suryashyamkarn "The One
If this catch would have dropped by someone else then it would be big issue. But since is has been dropped by Srini's laadla Dhoni it is a part of game. Dhoni is worst in keeping, average in batting , downhill with captaincy and huge ego and arrogancy. He should be shown the door with respect to captaincy. High time BCCI. Save team india.
Re: Thanks to Dhoni
by M S Dhoni on Feb 17, 2014 05:19 PM
Eagerly waiting for eng and aus tours where dhoni will become first captain ever of world to lose 20test matches away in just 4years. WC2015 will be the nail in coFFIn and thn Indian cricket will get r!d of this useless flattrack batsman and poLITi(ian captain who didnt play even 10good innings OVERSEAS against quality bowlers till date and in asia too he played only 4-5good innings UNDERPRESSURE when others didnt set a platform for him, else he has played only when team is in good condition, others hv set a strong platform and opposition bowling is weak. In int t20 too he is a biG fl0p n cudnt score even a single half century and has pathetic SR.
Lets hope that this uSEless playER will be kiCKED out after WC and that day will be a great day in history of Indiam Cricket.
Re: Re: Re: Thanks to Dhoni
by aaa on Feb 17, 2014 10:56 PM
We need sharp bowlers..not captain... he is the best we have got.. he did his part by scoring decently and keeping the wickets and we all know that he is sharp and we have data to back it up and the number of cups that we won under him..
Re: Re: Thanks to Dhoni
by aaa on Feb 17, 2014 10:59 PM
Dude he is the best under pressure and he is got data to back it up.. he cannot do miracles if we do not have good bowlers.. team performance will be like this till we get great bowlers..
Re: Re: Thanks to Dhoni
by aaa on Feb 17, 2014 09:29 PM
When are you going to leave Saurav alone.. BTW he was not the best and you know that. Suggest in the present crop somebody who is better than nobody..
Re: Re: Re: Thanks to Dhoni
by Against Pseudos on Feb 17, 2014 10:24 PM
Anybody is better than a captain who loses 10 out of last 11 tests abroad. Agree?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Thanks to Dhoni
by aaa on Feb 17, 2014 10:52 PM
He did his part by counter attacking and scoring decently. He primary job is wicket keeping and captaining which he is good at, but he does not have sharp bowlers who can take wickets what can he do, he is trying all he could. Yes he lost 10, but you can take out the first 5 as the so called seniors were retiring and could not score much. Even Pointing could not do anything once the greats retired from their team..
The result will be same even if you get anybody else.. we need solid bowlers who are sharp and take wickets like the way Zak did in the world cup.. whenever we were in trouble he pulled us out, but now you see the current crop, just now brains at all..