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It's very important to persist with your players: MS Dhoni


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letsgo
Double Standard
by letsgo on Oct 20, 2013 08:30 PM  | Hide replies

MSD, the same principle should have been floowed with Dinda or Sami or Saha or Manoj. Unfortunately, u r working as a double-standard !!

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Shikari Shambu
Re: Double Standard
by Shikari Shambu on Oct 20, 2013 09:28 PM
Apparently, the "talent" is missing for many of the not-selected players..

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Re: Re: Double Standard
by on Oct 20, 2013 10:14 PM
something is burning?

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taklu
Re: Re: Double Standard
by taklu on Oct 21, 2013 12:29 PM
haha..

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vinay
Re: Double Standard
by vinay on Oct 21, 2013 02:01 AM
abs corect letsogo. its dhoni nepotism which makes selection of players.

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Bigtribe
Ishant is Under Performing - is the Sr Most Baller in the team
by Bigtribe on Oct 20, 2013 08:28 PM

So senior baller like Ishant can't act maturely...

Better learn from a guy and the best captain ever India produces from Jharkhand.

India is with Dhoni - Even the coach can't help if one is not that responsible. After all who wants to be mocked? If want to survive perform...

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Odi india vs aus
by on Oct 20, 2013 08:16 PM

When kohli was put to bowl an over i was sure that it is going to be a disaster. When ishanth came along to bowl the 48 th over i felt that this over is going to be the result of the match. I am not the captain of india. But i knew that dhoni was wrong while putting these two fellows to bowl at a crucial point. The 48 th over costs a lot and dhoni still siding with ishanth. This fellow has been given much chances. What was the use.However 4 odis still left. A 4-3 margin is most likely to happen whether it favors india or aus we shall wait and see.

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hogajoga
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by hogajoga on Oct 20, 2013 07:25 PM

Prafulla- I DONT MIND india gets a SPECIALIST spinner or shorter medium pace bowler if they cannot train or utilize a pacer properly. IF YOU GIVE ELEPHANT TO poor person, it has no use for him. He cannot use it's height or power. And if improper Army uses elephant in war, it can get that elephant killed by using it improperly and the elephant can turn back on it's own army. This will happen to future fast bowlers as well if they also happen to be tall.

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hogajoga
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by hogajoga on Oct 20, 2013 06:09 PM

yes we need speed, skills but those are useless if we dont know how to apply it and when...so we also need to think proper from higher level.

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hogajoga
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by hogajoga on Oct 20, 2013 05:58 PM  | Hide replies


Faukner, we have exposed "how and why" you could hammer Ishant...so now when indian produces a bowler who understand the reasons for such hits, then it is you and certain teams that will have to worry..
yes we need speed, skills but those are useless if we dont know how to apply it...we also need to think proper.
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yorker ATTEMPT COMING FROM HEIGHT of Ishant allows lot of time for batsmen to come forward and be under the ball and hit for a six when they figure out the intent of bowler and the line and length. This is what faulkner did, he figured out the line and length and also figured out Ishant's intent. again. .Two things. Dhoni miscalculated. VINAY WAS DOING WELL. Team India had 2 overs left for vinay that Dhoni gave to ishant and kohli...what more, listening to dhoni comment on good yorker that Australia also heard. Auz were ready. They also saw what Ishant was doing this 1 dayer. Ishant forgot the occasional bouncer and usual tricks when he was being beaten badly. He had more of that yorker thing in his mind. Secondly, instead of rise and fall batsmen like yuvi/raina/etc india needs specialist spinner like ojha or mishra..we could replace pacer by spinner as well.

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Australia vs india mindset for yorker and rest of bowling. Ishant might have practiced perfect yorker but they are only good if batsmen stays in his crease or closer and does not take 1 or 2 steps out to smash. . Getting lbw is difficult outside crease even when ball hits high and is g

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hogajoga
Re: ...
by hogajoga on Oct 20, 2013 06:00 PM
. Getting lbw is difficult outside crease even when ball hits high and is going down to hit the stumps. Yorkers is mostly effective only when batsmen is caged down closer to stumps or the bowler is quick to deceive while wicket-keeper runs in or closer to stumps. Yorker is part of package but this is not what india does unlike Auz attempts. ..so there comes old style variation into use, understanding the advantage and shortcoming of being tall. You just cannot follow new style without using what you were good with earlier.

'Compare Ishant yorker and similar stuff with yorker from Malinga, for Malinga delivery comes from shorter height, it comes fast like a slanted sling(below his head or slightly above his head). Whereas from ishant, it comes from higher height, it is slower than Malinga, it give enough time for bowler to come forward and get under...and when opposing team figures out the intent (from action and body language), the length and line. The bowler is a toast. And Ishant in his mind had yorker or something like that and nothing else. Ishant and rest while adding new stuff should not loose their old stuff that got them current success.


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chilluchillu
you just have to love this guy
by chilluchillu on Oct 20, 2013 05:49 PM

you just have to love this guy.....................

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k desai
dhoni
by k desai on Oct 20, 2013 05:31 PM  | Hide replies

i appreciate the stand taken by mr dhoni. it will certainly boost the moral of the players.

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Sameer Bakre
Why not you persisted with Umesh Mr. Dhone
by Sameer Bakre on Oct 20, 2013 05:22 PM

I totally agree that you should persist with you good bowlers, but then why not Umesh Yadav, he has not done anything wrong as well.. We need a quick bowler, genuine speed like Yadav

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shaheen khan
strongly disagree...
by shaheen khan on Oct 20, 2013 05:19 PM  | Hide replies

If a bowler or a batsman is consistently non-performing and NOT learning from his past mistakes then he should be definitely shown the door. We have enough talent on the back bench and they should be given the opportunity.

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