the comments by some of the regular members in this forum show so much bias against one player or other, that facts need not be the case for argument. Get a feeling that some of the members want India to fail more than they want it to win. How does that make you fans? You want Vijay, rohit, jadeja to fail - why? Dont know. MSD has become a hate word. How does that make you regulars in this forum fans? Can we not just enjoy the game? Opinions might vary. But dont bring so much hatred, regionalism here please. Lets face it. Viru, Gambhir, Ganguly, Sachin, Laxman, yusuf and many such like have played for years. They were in the team or out of team because of their good or poor form. Not because of somebody wanted them out or in. They are responsible for thier situation - not somebody else. Please let it all go. Just watch the game and comment on today's game rather than bringing grudge from matches that happened a year ago or even two months ago. Hope this humble request will not be ignored.
Re: We dont need outsiders to pull us down
by sivanandam lakshmanan on Jun 05, 2013 06:18 PM
It is no t the case. Talented players were not given chance in tests Eg.Badri,Vijay, Mukhund,rahane,etc. Chamchas like raina,kohli,yuvi were given chance in tests & the whole world knew their weakness against rising deliveries. Why Dhoni has to be a captain in all formats ? When Kumble is Test captain Dhoni captained one day . Like wise Dhoni captain for tests or one day since he is not a good player outside India. Raina for Oneday captain. Kohli for T20. Keepers-Tests Karthik,Oneday -Dhoni,T20 Saha/Patel. When Aus/Eng/SA/WI are having seperate captain for each format giving preference only to merit not for reputation why India has to depend on Dhoni ? When Gambhir,Shewag,Sachin,Bhajji can be dropped from team why Dhoni has to be persisted ? Can any of the Dhoni supporters give answer to the following. What is his contribution in tests outside india & his chamchas ? Why Dhoni come up in toporder when there is a big score & no life in pitch? When the wickets falls quickly & pitch is lively why he demotes him than his usual place ? Have you seen when the pitch is hard to play he will needlessly run out himself & put blame on others.Why ? Whenever india wins a match he will praise himself & his strategy ahead of batsmen & bowlers contribution,Why ? Whenever the team losses it will be invariably batsmen failed or bowler failed & he never accepts his failure ,Why ? When Gambhir & Raina won 2 one day series why Dhoni has to be
Re: We dont need outsiders to pull us down
by sivanandam lakshmanan on Jun 05, 2013 06:19 PM
It is no t the case. Talented players were not given chance in tests Eg.Badri,Vijay, Mukhund,rahane,etc. Chamchas like raina,kohli,yuvi were given chance in tests & the whole world knew their weakness against rising deliveries. Why Dhoni has to be a captain in all formats ? When Kumble is Test captain Dhoni captained one day . Like wise Dhoni captain for tests or one day since he is not a good player outside India. Raina for Oneday captain. Kohli for T20. Keepers-Tests Karthik,Oneday -Dhoni,T20 Saha/Patel. When Aus/Eng/SA/WI are having seperate captain for each format giving preference only to merit not for reputation why India has to depend on Dhoni ? When Gambhir,Shewag,Sachin,Bhajji can be dropped from team why Dhoni has to be persisted ? Can any of the Dhoni supporters give answer to the following. What is his contribution in tests outside india & his chamchas ? Why Dhoni come up in toporder when there is a big score & no life in pitch? When the wickets falls quickly & pitch is lively why he demotes him than his usual place ? Have you seen when the pitch is hard to play he will needlessly run out himself & put blame on others.Why ? Whenever india wins a match he will praise himself & his strategy ahead of batsmen & bowlers contribution,Why ? Whenever the team losses it will be invariably batsmen failed or bowler failed & he never accepts his failure ,Why ? When Gambhir & Raina won 2 one day series why Dhoni has to be
Re: We dont need outsiders to pull us down
by sivanandam lakshmanan on Jun 05, 2013 06:19 PM
It is no t the case. Talented players were not given chance in tests Eg.Badri,Vijay, Mukhund,rahane,etc. Chamchas like raina,kohli,yuvi were given chance in tests & the whole world knew their weakness against rising deliveries. Why Dhoni has to be a captain in all formats ? When Kumble is Test captain Dhoni captained one day . Like wise Dhoni captain for tests or one day since he is not a good player outside India. Raina for Oneday captain. Kohli for T20. Keepers-Tests Karthik,Oneday -Dhoni,T20 Saha/Patel. When Aus/Eng/SA/WI are having seperate captain for each format giving preference only to merit not for reputation why India has to depend on Dhoni ? When Gambhir,Shewag,Sachin,Bhajji can be dropped from team why Dhoni has to be persisted ? Can any of the Dhoni supporters give answer to the following. What is his contribution in tests outside india & his chamchas ? Why Dhoni come up in toporder when there is a big score & no life in pitch? When the wickets falls quickly & pitch is lively why he demotes him than his usual place ? Have you seen when the pitch is hard to play he will needlessly run out himself & put blame on others.Why ? Whenever india wins a match he will praise himself & his strategy ahead of batsmen & bowlers contribution,Why ? Whenever the team losses it will be invariably batsmen failed or bowler failed & he never accepts his failure ,Why ? When Gambhir & Raina won 2 one day series why Dhoni has to be
Re: We dont need outsiders to pull us down
by sivanandam lakshmanan on Jun 05, 2013 06:23 PM
It is no t the case. Talented players were not given chance in tests Eg.Badri,Vijay, Mukhund,rahane,etc. Chamchas like raina,kohli,yuvi were given chance in tests & the whole world knew their weakness against rising deliveries. Why Dhoni has to be a captain in all formats ? When Kumble is Test captain Dhoni captained one day . Like wise Dhoni captain for tests or one day since he is not a good player outside India. Raina for Oneday captain. Kohli for T20. Keepers-Tests Karthik,Oneday -Dhoni,T20 Saha/Patel. When Aus/Eng/SA/WI are having seperate captain for each format giving preference only to merit not for reputation why India has to depend on Dhoni ? When Gambhir,Shewag,Sachin,Bhajji can be dropped from team why Dhoni has to be persisted ? Can any of the Dhoni supporters give answer to the following. What is his contribution in tests outside india & his chamchas ? Why Dhoni come up in toporder when there is a big score & no life in pitch? When the wickets falls quickly & pitch is lively why he demotes him than his usual place ? Have you seen when the pitch is hard to play he will needlessly run out himself & put blame on others.Why ? Whenever india wins a match he will praise himself & his strategy ahead of batsmen & bowlers contribution,Why ? Whenever the team losses it will be invariably batsmen failed or bowler failed & he never accepts his failure ,Why ? When Gambhir & Raina won 2 one day series why Dhoni has to be
Re: We dont need outsiders to pull us down
by sivanandam lakshmanan on Jun 05, 2013 06:24 PM
It is no t the case. Talented players were not given chance in tests Eg.Badri,Vijay, Mukhund,rahane,etc. Chamchas like raina,kohli,yuvi were given chance in tests & the whole world knew their weakness against rising deliveries. Why Dhoni has to be a captain in all formats ? When Kumble is Test captain Dhoni captained one day . Like wise Dhoni captain for tests or one day since he is not a good player outside India. Raina for Oneday captain. Kohli for T20. Keepers-Tests Karthik,Oneday -Dhoni,T20 Saha/Patel. When Aus/Eng/SA/WI are having seperate captain for each format giving preference only to merit not for reputation why India has to depend on Dhoni ? When Gambhir,Shewag,Sachin,Bhajji can be dropped from team why Dhoni has to be persisted ? Can any of the Dhoni supporters give answer to the following. What is his contribution in tests outside india & his chamchas ? Why Dhoni come up in toporder when there is a big score & no life in pitch? When the wickets falls quickly & pitch is lively why he demotes him than his usual place ? Have you seen when the pitch is hard to play he will needlessly run out himself & put blame on others.Why ? Whenever india wins a match he will praise himself & his strategy ahead of batsmen & bowlers contribution,Why ? Whenever the team losses it will be invariably batsmen failed or bowler failed & he never accepts his failure ,Why ? When Gambhir & Raina won 2 one day series why Dhoni has to be
Re: We dont need outsiders to pull us down
by sivanandam lakshmanan on Jun 05, 2013 07:32 PM
It is no t the case. Talented players were not given chance in tests Eg.Badri,Vijay, Mukhund,rahane,etc. Chamchas like raina,kohli,yuvi were given chance in tests & the whole world knew their weakness against rising deliveries. Why Dhoni has to be a captain in all formats ? When Kumble is Test captain Dhoni captained one day . Like wise Dhoni captain for tests or one day since he is not a good player outside India. Raina for Oneday captain. Kohli for T20. Keepers-Tests Karthik,Oneday -Dhoni,T20 Saha/Patel. When Aus/Eng/SA/WI are having seperate captain for each format giving preference only to merit not for reputation why India has to depend on Dhoni ? When Gambhir,Shewag,Sachin,Bhajji can be dropped from team why Dhoni has to be persisted ? Can any of the Dhoni supporters give answer to the following. What is his contribution in tests outside india & his chamchas ? Why Dhoni come up in toporder when there is a big score & no life in pitch? When the wickets falls quickly & pitch is lively why he demotes him than his usual place ? Have you seen when the pitch is hard to play he will needlessly run out himself & put blame on others.Why ? Whenever india wins a match he will praise himself & his strategy ahead of batsmen & bowlers contribution,Why ? Whenever the team losses it will be invariably batsmen failed or bowler failed & he never accepts his failure ,Why ? When Gambhir & Raina won 2 one day series why Dhoni has to be
The problems with bowlers like Ishant and Umesh is that they can be wayward at any period of the game given someone like a Gayle ABDV or Miller go after them.These two bowled 2 of the most expensive overs in IPL.This time India don't have enough backup bowlers as we r missing Yuvi and Veeru.Bhuvaneswar and Aswin are the only reliable bowlers in the squad.Batting wise i don't expect Vijay Dhawan combo to do wonders and more depend on Kohli Raina DK and MSD.
The problems with bowlers like Ishant and Umesh is that they can be wayward at any period of the game given someone like a Gayle ABDV or Miller go after them.These two bowled 2 of the most expensive overs in IPL.This time India don't have enough backup bowlers as we r missing Yuvi and Veeru.Bhuvaneswar and Aswin are the only reliable bowlers in the squad.Batting wise i don't expect Vijay Dhawan combo to do wonders and more depend on Kohli Raina DK and MSD.
Re: Best available XI
by hyderabadi on Jun 05, 2013 12:00 PM
Shud drop Rohit nd Murali Vijay..bring back gambhir in the opening slot and replace jadeja with irfan ( Especially in english soil)
Re: Re: Best available XI
by Delhi City on Jun 05, 2013 01:30 PM
No First, Gambhir is not there. Second, Jadeja is much much better than Irfan in every department batting, fielding or bowling in any condition .
Re: Re: Re: hehe
by jo on Jun 05, 2013 09:31 AM
Rubbish!Dhoni never spoiled anyone's chances.Ther are many people who are jealous of his success who try their best to pull him down - so stop it!!!
Re: Re: Re: hehe
by jo on Jun 05, 2013 09:32 AM
Rubbish!Dhoni never spoiled anyone's chances.Ther are many people who are jealous of his success who try their best to pull him down - so stop it!!!
....deliberately played to lose to give Indians a false sense of superiority?
Now the Indian players will probably be strutting around with puffed chests thinking they are world beaters - only to fall flat on their faces in the actual matches.
Re: time to drop rohit
by navdeep johar on Jun 05, 2013 04:23 AM
Except DK and Kohli, i doubt our BATTING.. We will see against s. africa what they do...
IPL critics watch out..i think Ipl is really helping all these young crickets confidence level and let them play confidentially against international teams. no doubt bt that.
