going by gandulys performances, it is actually the opposing team and ganduly versus pwi. This guy is a laibility and it is evident from the fact that kkr started doing well after kicking him out. Even in the indian team, ganduly was one of the most selfish players who would always slow down while approching a personal landmark.
he back stabbed sachin to become captain... then he was a failure for almost 2 years before his uncle dalmia fixed west indies series for him... then he won matches due to brilliance of sachin/dravid/kumble supported by harbajan/laxman... but media hyped him same way they hype dhoni now as the greatest captain... ganguly was such a great captain that he will fake injury rather than face likes of sohaib akhtar... now he is destroying pune warriors keeping his self interest above team... this bong can do anything for money and stay in limelight...
Re: ganguly the selfish...
by Javed Shaikh on May 06, 2012 08:26 PM
completely agree. KKR ws at the very bottom when he was there and have suddenly started doing well with him out. But all these bangalis still say that PWI is doing well only cos of ganduly. My question to them is that if he was so good, why didnt calcutta do well under him?
Re: Re: ganguly the selfish...
by Rahul on May 07, 2012 08:07 AM
yeah well said.. also the bangalis need to be taught some basics... like 8th position out of 9 isnt exactly "doing good".
When Ganguly took over the reins of Captaincy, Indian cricket was in dire straits; Match Fixing scandals, moral at the Nadir and no self belief. His greatest achievement is to completely change the psyche of Indian cricketers. They began believing in themselves, their ability & shed the also ran mentality and success followed. He taught them the old SAS adage, “ WHO DARES WINS”.
Re: Re: Sourav
by ASHISH KUMAR on May 06, 2012 03:45 PM
both dada & dhoni were simply overhyped. Its match winner players who win the matches & not captain. It was hype created by media which helped both of them to continue in name of captaincy even without any noticable performance for years & years. Yes but as a player dada was far better than dhoni. Useless manipulatoe dhoni will not find place in even SA/Aus/Eng A team
Re: Sourav
by Javed Shaikh on May 06, 2012 08:23 PM
roy, the only ones agreeing with you are your fellow bangalis, and that is only cos most bangalis are so parochial. Most people from other states readily agree that ganduly was one of the most selfish players, who always slowed down while nearing personal landmarks..
Re: PUNE WARRIORS
by surya das on May 06, 2012 12:59 PM
wht do u mean by single player in Pune team? Does Pune has any team? When Pune has a team? There were two teams in Maharastra..one is Maharastra and Mumbai. So dont allege false allegation
last dada shud hv opened bcoz even now he is a better bat than pandy utthappa(smith is best suited to finish the game not at top order)without him there is no quality bat in pwi
Re: C
by tyajodeep chakrabarti on May 06, 2012 11:53 AM
pwi is an awfully horrible team.with dada de score about 140 about nd without they will be bundled within 100.smith was doing xcellent down.nd in last 2 matches?everyone says dada is batting slow.yesterday smith scored 14 off 16.same with clarke last match
Re: The bongs cant
by Javed Shaikh on May 06, 2012 08:29 PM
RT and SCB i can understnd but not the selfish ganduly. It is only their parochial nature that makes bangalis support ganduly. some of the bangalis even beleive that ganduly was better than dravid.
Re: The bongs cant
by Shubhendu Khan on May 06, 2012 10:50 AM
Dear Pravas,
How would u like if I call u "Maura"? U people think u r superior or what? One cannot be superior just because he belongs to certain race. It is the individual talent which makes them distinguished. I have tremendous respect for the 'Marwari' people and have many a friends. Simultaneously I feel proud about certain SCB and RT and many more people. Do not make a general statement like this. It increases communal hatred.
Re: Re: The bongs cant
by Pavas Agarwal on May 06, 2012 12:01 PM
Hi subhendu khan which race you beong form your name it seems u r a bangladeshi.Quietly accept the fact and dont crib.
This time Ganguly did every possibility to make things in order. First, in bowling he dropped Nehera, but sad their bowlers gave too many wides, poor bowling then extra ordinary poor fielding to give KKR a wide chance in the game.
150 in Eden is good total in T20.
Secondly, he himself brought down in batting order so that all in form batsmen will get as many balls as they need to score but all failed at one time. When ur team 70/6 then the only thing was a partnership which he did with Mathew. When both were get going some good catch and fielding dethrone them again.
But frankly speaking they should ve won this match and last match against MI.. Luck is not with them
Re: It was bad luck
by Javed Shaikh on May 06, 2012 08:32 PM
the best thing ganduly can do is to drop himself. but you parochial bangalis will never agree. if you think he is so good, why dont you take him back in the calcutta team? When he was there, calcutta was at the bottom of the dump but oncce he was kicked out, they have now started doing well.
Re: It was bad luck
by wcpak on May 06, 2012 09:18 AM
look at the scorecard..ganguly scored 36 from 35b.Out of 36,22 runs came from 5b which means he scored balance 14 runs from 30b. So he is just fit to be a non playing captain.
Re: Re: Re: It was bad luck
by surya das on May 06, 2012 01:11 PM
i agreed abot his running between the wkt. But, about comparing 36 runs incl 5b (which is 22 runs) from 35 balls..Do u apply same logic for others? Here u go :
Gambhir, the most successful batsman in this game scored 56 from 36 balls (4*4s=16, 2*6=12, total 28 runs) which means he scored 28 runs from 30 balls..which is bad in T20.. Mind, Im only comparing with the best player in this game..
My qu. is what abt top 5 batsmen, who failed miserably..how u expect a team will win against a top quality bowling attack when ur top 5 batsmen failed and u r chasing a good total.. Same this goes to fielders and bowlers..don't u see how badly there were bowling with 12 wides in T20 match.. out of few went boundaries..and what abt fielding..i never seen such a worst fielding..except few players like Smith..rest were below par..
Really glad that KKR win. The Kolkata crowd was an utter disappointment. Yes we understand that Bongs love Dada but that doesnt mean you stop supporting the home team. Tomorrow you wont see Bangalore crowd supporting RR! KKR's win was a slap on the crowds face! And Gambhir is in great form, KKR deserved the win. And Ganguly needs to find his form, needs to learn from Dravid!
Re: KKR
by Hayat on May 06, 2012 01:22 AM
You are right, and look at them: They came wearing T-Shirts of PWI! How ridiculous can it get? I don't understand why KKR still persists with Kolkota as its base. Let it shift and leave these miserable ungrates to their loser kaptaan, who gave them top places from bottom, thirce, and who is going to do exactly that to Pune, who fell to his charms, unlike others, and he will make them pay by getting 1st place for them from down!
Re: Re: KKR
by Maihoon Don on May 06, 2012 01:26 AM
Pune will be last. Even Deccan will overtake them soon. Pathetic dada Shamelessly riding on regional emotions which is a mentality at least 20 years old now in India which is becoming cosmopolitan.
Re: KKR
by Maihoon Don on May 06, 2012 01:24 AM
Well said. In 21st century the crowd was showing mediveal age mentality. This is a professional circuit where everyone is playing to win, no hard feelings.
Re: Re: Re: Re: KKR
by STA BHATT on May 06, 2012 01:33 AM
East India company was better than being ruled by Mughals.. That is the reason you are free today...
Re: Re: Re: Re: KKR
by Hayat on May 06, 2012 01:48 AM
Well India's GDP was 40% of the World in 1757 at the end of Mughal rule and 1% in 1947 at the end of British rule so figures are there for your comments.
And yes Mir Jafar too did not support the local team so we know the result.
Re: KKR
by nirmalya thakurta on May 06, 2012 03:16 AM
IPL is franchise circus - what's the fuss if a part of the city crowd supports their own city icon representing other city, both Pune & Kolkata is in India only isnt it?
Re: Re: KKR
by Maihoon Don on May 06, 2012 03:24 AM
You contradict yourself. IPL is indeed a professional frnchise circuit and there should be no emotions. City crowds should support their own city franchises especially if they are doing well. Gangly is not at al modern in his thinking like SRK and Gautam Gambhir.
Re: Re: Re: KKR
by surya das on May 06, 2012 07:53 AM
u guys r atter talking nonsense.. hardly 10% of audience were wevring Pune jercy..which is nothing surprise (do nt u see other matches visitors team supportes in stadium)? If u didnt see, then wvtch highlights then u will understand.
But, yes you will find many supporters for Dada.. its genuine if a person has given so much laurels to his home city, no matter which team he plays for, but he will get good support when he visit with opposition. and in India only Sachin and and Sourav ve that fan followings all over India.. Now, stop talking craps like East India co. and all
Re: gangu
by skanda acharya on May 05, 2012 11:23 PM
What do u mean by that. In fact to me he did almost 90% correct today bringing himself down the order & letting all inform batsmen at the top, but all failed. Uthappa should be thrown out.
Re: Re: gangu
by ASHISH KUMAR on May 06, 2012 03:54 PM
leading from the front, batting at the top, facing best bowlers & scoring runs at top. Also giuding youngster with no ego. tahts what dravid is all about.