No doubts about that.. but you are also One among the most SELFISH players. No one else would have dared to play for his century at the cost of the country. We have supported you in what ever your achievements are so far.. but this one point about you is very disappointing. It really pains when when an Australian would say "Sachin plays only for his centuries". But what to do we have to digest that also. Hope that India would not be elimenated from the Asia cup.. some of the people might blame your century for sure.
Cricket is all about long term planning and execution. The problem with Sachin is, there is no way he can be fit for the next World Cup. India needs to start grooming youngsters so that they will have some experience before the next World Cup.
Today we have a few youngsters who have got good experience - but that is not enough. We need much more solid bench strength.
It is cruel and criminal for Sachin to continue to play just because no one in the selection committee has the guts to bell the cat and ask him to quit - by continuing to play, Sachin is depriving some youngster of playing in the prime of his career.
Forget all these aspects - Sachin is not at the top of his game when it comes to fielding. He is incapable of diving to stop boundaries. In today's game, that is a crucial aspect - because runs saved on the field are worth more than the actual runs saved. Firstly the run itself is saved - and secondly, a lower target means a lot lesser pressure when you are batting - or on the bowlers when they are defending a target. In fact in large grounds, where singles/twos/threes are important, Sachin's inability to run quick singles is a liability. I can't remember when Sachin last dived to save himself from Run Out!
If he is at the top of his batting game, he should show it against tough opposition, in tough conditions. Not at times where anybody can score! In Australia, Sachin was not top of his game! Even in Bangladesh, he scored runs - but not top of his game!
Re: Wrong attitude
by two paisa on Mar 19, 2012 12:26 PM
Maybe people can ask - other than Virat Kohli and Gambhir, no one really performed in Australia. So why hold Sachin to a higher standard?
The point is - Sachin HAS to be held to a higher standard. If Sachin is anyway going to fail and not perform against quality opposition and in bowler friendly conditions, is it not better for Indian cricket to give some youngster the opportunity and the experience? Give him the chance to play quality opposition in tough conditions, allow him to fail a few times, and hope that he will get better over time?
What exactly does Indian cricket gain by Sachin playing and failing against Australia? We were losing by an innings in all the matches, and other than one innings, Sachin never even came close to being on top of his game! Why should we give chances to Sachin to play, just to enhance his record?
I strongly feel Sachin has to be held to a higher standard than others - especially youngsters. I would much rather allow a youngster several chances, and allow them to fail - in the hope that that will be a good investment for the future.
Throughout his career, Sachin has an unenviable record - he has rarely performed well when India needed him most. For a top batsman, the fact that India won only 53% when Sachin scored a century speaks a lot about how he just chased records.
And remember, this stat holds true even in the second half of his career, when India was a top team in World Cricket.
Re: Re: Wrong attitude
by Anand on Mar 19, 2012 04:00 PM
Sachin need not dive to save his wicket. He will be in the crease before the ball reaches the keeper. He is an excellent runner. Against SA he dived to save a boundary and India won that match by 1 run.
Re: Re: Re: Wrong attitude
by two paisa on Mar 19, 2012 07:33 PM
Says entire story - Sachin dived once - and it was such a rare occassion that you still remember it! And Sachin reaches crease before ball is with Keeper - yeah indeed... The trouble is, he will mostly not even attempt the run unless it is quite safe - and if he attempts tough run because of circumstances, he will not dive - he will leave it in fielders hands - if fielder gets direct hit, Sachin is out!
Even yesterday's match, there were 2-3 instances when Pakistan could not get a direct hit - when Tendulkar was not even in the frame. That is how good Sachin's running is!
Re: Wrong attitude
by two paisa on Mar 19, 2012 12:34 PM
I would anyway consider Virat Kohli to be a much better player than Sachin - Even though he is very young, he has already shown that he can stand up and be counted when the situation is really tough for India. Most of his centuries have come in matches where India was facing stiff targets, and under pressure to win.
I hope someone does a stat - of how many centuries Sachin had, when he was Virat Kohli's age. I think despite the fact that Sachin started his career much younger than Kohli did, the number of centuries scored by Kohli would be higher than what Sachin scored when he was Kohli's current age.
And Kohli's centuries are not in meaningless matches, his innings at Hobart is a 100 times better than Sachin's Desert Storm innings - even a 1000 times better. Because not just did he score the runs, not just did India win, India won with enough to spare to get the bonus point. And even the target was so high it was ridiculous to even consider doing it within 40 overs at the start of the innings.
Virat Kohli could have easily started playing when he was 16-17, the way Sachin started playing. At that age, he was already mature enough to lead the Under 19 team to the Junior World Cup title. Who knows, if he was given the chance to play earlier, he might have easily broken Sachin's records. For that matter, the rate at which he is going, he might still break Sachin's records!
Re: Re: Wrong attitude
by Venkat N on Mar 19, 2012 02:01 PM
Records are made to break it may be Kohli my break the records . But every one need to remember at this age he still scoring TONS that is some thing g8t. All Indian's should proud to have Sachin.
Re: Re: Wrong attitude
by Anand on Mar 19, 2012 04:04 PM
Kohli has more centuries than Sachin had, going by the number of matches. But Sachin started playing at no 6 or 7. He opened the innings only after he had played 70 matches. How can a player score a century playing at 7? we didn't have a Sehwag then, who can get out the very first ball.
Re: Re: Re: Wrong attitude
by two paisa on Mar 19, 2012 07:42 PM
Kohli is playing number 3 only in this series - earlier even Kohli was not having proper place in the batting order. In fact Kohli got place in side when Sachin/Sehwag were rested, and then was dropped when both came back. He again got place when Yuvraj was injured, and again got dropped when Yuvraj came back. He has had to constantly prove himself, and has fought to get the Number 3 slot.
I still remember Sachin batting Number 4 in the 90s - and when tailenders came on to bat, would never attempt to shield the tailenders. He would happily take singles first ball of the over - hoping that the tailenders would get out, and he would remain not out. His average has been shored up by cheap tactics like that.
Considering Sachin has such phenomenal stats, it is amazing how many people think he just plays for record book - and not to help India win the game!
Even after a career of 23 years, when you ask people what Sachin has done when India is in a tight spot, the only example they can come up with, is Desert Storm innings and the final in 1998! And maybe the World Cup match against Pakistan in 2003.
Take other top Indian cricketers - Dravid, Laxman, Dhoni, Kumble, and now Virat Kohli. They all have several instances of putting their hand up and fighting to win matches for India, from tough situations.
For such a young career, Kohli can already claim more match winning innings under tremendous pressure, than Tendulkar can!
Re: Re: Re: Re: Wrong attitude
by Abhishek Kulkarni on Mar 30, 2012 09:30 AM
I like the way you write intelligently without personally admonishing anyone. That's how an analysis should be. If, after 23 years, all you can think of is just those two centuries, something is really wrong somewhere. Kindly check all Sachin's centuries. To compare Kohli with Sachin at this stage is a joke! Let's accept it! He still has a lot to prove. Your analysis suggests Sachin got to play in the team at 16 although he was not talented enough! In fact he proved how highly talented he was in the first test itself in 1989 at the age of 16! All the games where Sachin has scored a century but we lost are not due to him but due to bad bowling!
And to talk about him not shielding tail enders! People always have that one Chennai test to talk about or the ODI where he scored 175. Guys remember after scoring those mammoth innings any player is tired and may make a mistake. Don't blame him. Instead train our tailenders to also play responsibly! I request you to take Sachin's name with respect. India was brought on the cricketing map due to SRT. Otherwise we were just like Zimbabwe till he came. We became a power to be reckoned with only after his advent. His extra ordinary talent coupled with selfless devotion for this country for the last 23 years infested with cricketing illeterates only speak volumes of how gifted he is. Had he been in Australia or SA he would have scored much more runs. Its under extreme pressure of expectations that he has held himself high.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Wrong attitude
by Abhishek Kulkarni on Mar 30, 2012 09:37 AM
If all you can think of after 23 years of selfless devotion, extra ordinary talent and commitment is just those 2 centuries then something has to be wrong somewhere. Its ludicrous to compare Kohli with SRT at this stage. Your statement 'If Kohli would have got to play at 16' suggests Sachin got in to the team at 16 using unfair means. Have respect for Sachin. India is proud to have a diamond like him. I agree Kohli is another diamond is in the making but to say what you've said its still too early. There have been players who have hit double centuries on debut! Will you say Kohli is less talented than them! No! Let's wait and watch! Consistency is the name of the game buddy.
Sachin, very well said. Now all those selfish people who are jealous of your achievements should shut their mouth. Those who are saying that you should make way for young blood, should know that anybody should earn their place in the side on merit. Virat, Raina, Rohit etc. did come into the team by pushing out Dravid and Laxman, eventhough you did not retire. That is how it should be. You should retire only when you are on low and completely exhausted your contribution to the team.
Why cant the great players can not score that many centuries against other team. Sachin never blocked any others achievement. He has the talent, commitment to do that so he did. REcords are open to all. Any body can achieve it. Just let others achieve it and prove that. Today india is in internationational scene just by the records achieved by Sachin, Gavaskar, Kapil Dev can any one deny it.
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We Indians have the tendency to ignore the glaring truth.. India lost the game because of the slow run rate... are such 100s or double 100 really worth? Eeven Sachin knows the truth..will he say that..better he say that... he will be the real hero only then.
Re: Does his 100 matter.. India Lost because of his slow run rat
by Anand on Mar 19, 2012 04:09 PM
Yes Sachin slowed down when he reached 80s. That is bound to happen when one is approaching such a record. By the way I never thought Sachin was the only batsman at the center for RR to come down, was he? What about Raina and Kohli. Were they in the dressing room when Sachin batting alone on the field. Even they didn't hit 4s. Stop blaming Sachin.
Re: Does his 100 matter.. India Lost because of his slow run rat
by Nesa Mani on Mar 19, 2012 10:28 AM
if sachin could have get 100 yesterday's match, I am sure india would have lost the match. because when he reached 90 he will became slow
